VIP rooms

"do you guys have any memorable experiences in VIP rooms that didn't involve sexual acts? "

Rachel, you don't really understand men, do you?

VIP stands for Very Important Penis. If my penis doesn't feel important then you, my dear lady, are doing something horribly wrong.

jackslash - *sigh* I guess perhaps not, but I'm learning. This is the first club I've worked at and since I'm not 21 I have no prior experience in strip clubs, much less VIP rooms

Slickspic - that's wonderful advice lol

"...do you guys have any memorable experiences in VIP rooms that didn't involve sexual acts?"

If I paid $500 for a VIP session that did NOT involve sex acts, it would be memorable but for all the wrong reasons. First, I don't agree to VIP sessions unless extras are discussed and arranged. Second, I'd never pay that much for a VIP session when you can find very attractive escorts for less $. Third, if I had been misled about VIP expectations I'd be pissed and post a very negative review of the dancer and the club.

My recommendation to you is to think of this as a service contract-- what experience will you provide to your customer in exchange for the customer's hard earned money. I even more strongly recommend that you be prepared to make good on that service arrangement; otherwise you'll be labeled as a "rob" (an acronym for a rip off bitch).

I suspect that you'll find some naive customers who will agree to an expensive VIP dance that involves no prospect of sex, especially if you're attractive and charming. However, you'll have a very hard time with that sales pitch, especially with anyone who has ever read the contents of this and other strip club discussion boards.

Don't compromise yourself just for money.

I COULD tell you stories involving myself (and others) who have spent large sums of money in a VIP room without any sexual favors in return. But I WON'T.

I don't want you to get your hopes up, but more importantly, I would lose all my street cred on this board.

Rachel, I'll start by saying that sometimes dudes post here pretending to be strippers. So there may be some suspicion regarding your posts.

However, I'll take it at face value and answer with a serious answer. As motorhead says, don't compromise yourself. I'm a firm believer that folks should do whatever makes them comfortable. If you can make money being clean and don't feel OK 'bout anything more...well, that's cool for you! If a girls feels comfortable with more...her prerogative.

Obviously, for all of us (including dudes) "comfort" is on a sliding scale related to how much money you can make, other job prospects, etc. Last time I was in the club a girl was talking to me about how she felt working fast food was associated with way less self respect than whatever she does in the back room (not sure if she was subtly implying that more was available in the VIP...I got a lap dance).

I'm a bit different from many of the horn dogs here. I'm in a LTR but enjoy looking and a lapper. Especially when I travel. I'm not rich but my income is such that I don't worry 'bout what I spend (the cutoff for me is an amount my SO will complain about and she doesn't even notice if it is less than $500 or $1K...might if I blew that weekly, but on a trip it is no big). So I might be a VIP for a no XXXtras girl. Don't know how many of the pervs on here are serious 'bout what they say vs tellin' tales. Don't want to know...funnier that way.

(Why do I post here? 'Cos some posts here are friggin' hilarious...there was a dude on here, now apparently banned, that had some great riffs on gettin' sex for a bucket of KFC and similar craziness. Still posts using other handles, but more subdued. Gives me the LOLZ.)

BTW Rachel...nice pic. We'd love more. No need for the face if you feel uncomfortable...

Motorhead, we've all had air dances. It's embarrassing, but we were all scammed by one dancer or another. It's part of learning.

In the club I go tyo, VIP and CR are almost the same except the CR is $10 more ($60 vs. $50). You won't get a BJ or FS in either, although a talented dancer can make you cum in your pants. My expectation is a great grind form one of my faves. Spending more than the minimum is a waste of money IMO.

Now, in an extras club, obviously I want to get off. I prefer BBBJCIM as it's nice and clean. (Yes LDK: I'm still paranoid about pant stains!). I won't spend the money unless the dancer is up front about the cost and the service. Any vague promises about what 'might' happen means to me it won't.

Second the comment about most strippers here really being guys, but taking the OP at face value...

Most of the non-sex VIP stories I've heard involve drugs, or either the stripper or customer drinking too much and puking. Sorry, not sure what else you were looking for :)

What I expect in the VIP differs by club. There are clubs where I go, where I always expect a sexual act in the VIP, which I explicitly negotiate beforehand. My current club is no-extras, with video surveillance, so I absolutely don't expect any sex acts there. In fact, I don't *expect* anything ... but of course, whether I repeat with a girl depends partially on how hot she made me in the VIP, so some exploration of boundaries is usually apropos after the first couple (I tend to like to develop ATFs, so I take the long view, and let her be the boundary pusher for the first few VIPs)

$500 an hour would be a hard sell even if it did include sex. I would suggest you give up on the idea. The only way I can see this working is if you develop a continuing relationship with a rich whale, be honest about what he can expect, and hope he's willing to pay that much for exclusive time. You'd better be extremely charming and very good at conversation.

@Rachelmmm: First off, the regular posters on this site are *not* representative of strip club club goers in general. With a few exceptions, we're all ho dogs who prefer girls who do nasty sex things to our wrinkled old wieners. So everything everybody says about expecting sex, while completely true for them, should probably not discourage you too much.

$500 seems like a high price to pay for nothing extra, but if the clubs is as strict as you say, it's likely that folks are used to that, and won't expect anything extra, except for the occasional hard care monger who shows up.

I personally would expect you to be honest about what level of contact you'll allow, and them allow it. I would also expect you to be forthright about how much you'd expect to be compensated for me creepy old man hands groping you, and to be upfront about whether more contact was available for more money, and then to be satisfied when you get that much.

I would expect you to *not* tell me that playing with your boobs was OK for a $10 tip, and then change your mind and ask for $20, or not take your top off, after the VIP fee is paid and we get back there. I would not expect you to agree to boob playing and them put up with my fingers in your pussy without renegotiating.

Now, if you go over to www.stripperweb.com and ask this question, you'll likely get far different responses. Lying like a rug seems to be an acceptable tactic to many over there. However, the regular posters over there are no more representative of dancers than we are of patrons.

Hope that helps.

Oh, and if you're not gonna show your face anyway, how about some nudey pics. :) We are, after all, creepy old perverts. :)

Like georg said the people here on TUSCL are not representative of strip club patrons in general. People here on TUSCL expect sex in VIP. I'm sure once when the regular strip club patrons drink a little bit, they won't have a problem doing VIP if they have the money, I think they would expect to be able touch all over your body and some good contact by you. If you have a good connection with the customer, maybe go a little further..,.

Me personally I'm not interested in sex in a strip club, so that's why I avoid VIP for the most part (not to mention VIP costs a lot).The few VIPs I did involved making out, titty sucking, feeling all over her body,her taking off my shirt etc, but again that's just me.

I'm sure at a lot of clubs the dancer would get fired if she was caught having sex with a customer in VIP.

Most on here will say extra's only in VIP.

But like others have mentioned is that you don't have to give extras if you are not comfortable and don't want to get fired.

What I expect if not extras.... is a good grind and dance. If dancer is comfortable (or allowed in the club) hands on experience....which means I can touch places again where she is comfortable with letting me touch....ie: tits and ass but not vajayjay. Then sometimes she touches outside of clothing....nothing too explicit but a grab here and there. But nothing too sexual.

But I have also been into a VIP where two way contact wasn't allowed but had a great grind and it was amazing.

So on how to sell a dance.... Be honest if the guy asks about extras don't lead them on. But tell them you are selling a fantasy. Some men just want someone to listen to them in the VIP where it is more secluded. I have seen guys crying in the VIP before and when I asked the dancer....she told me the guy just found out his wife wanted a divorce and it blindsided him and he wanted to just have the company of a beautiful woman and vent. You will run into those cases as well.

Rachelmmm-
Check out Stripperweb and you will find dozens of lies that strippers tell customers to entice them to spring for the cost of the VIP rooms. About the only lie you won't find there is "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

I really appreciate every comment you guys took the time to post on here. In the club I work at the most money is definitely in VIP. I should add the $500 is with the room fee added in. The girl is $150 per half hour and the room is $100 per half hour. I've never danced before and I don't wanna do anything that makes me uncomfortable, but I still want my customer to have an amazing time and look forward to coming back to the club. (and hopefully to see me)The last thing I'd want is for someone to leave feeling ripped off or scammed by me. I'm also gonna check out stripperweb. Thank you guys! :)

Is the room fee set in stone? Or is it something that you can negotiate and charge whatever you actually want to charge with the club always getting $100 for 30 minutes? That's important for you to know because it will affect how many rooms you sell.

"If I paid $500 for a VIP session that did NOT involve sex acts, it would be memorable but for all the wrong reasons. First, I don't agree to VIP sessions unless extras are discussed and arranged. Second, I'd never pay that much for a VIP session when you can find very attractive escorts for less $. Third, if I had been misled about VIP expectations I'd be pissed and post a very negative review of the dancer and the club.

My recommendation to you is to think of this as a service contract-- what experience will you provide to your customer in exchange for the customer's hard earned money. I even more strongly recommend that you be prepared to make good on that service arrangement; otherwise you'll be labeled as a "rob" (an acronym for a rip off bitch).

I suspect that you'll find some naive customers who will agree to an expensive VIP dance that involves no prospect of sex, especially if you're attractive and charming. However, you'll have a very hard time with that sales pitch, especially with anyone who has ever read the contents of this and other strip club discussion boards. "

I could not have said it any better Electroman. I totally agree.

"I'm also gonna check out stripperweb."

You'll get any ENTIRELY different and possibly extreme slant on this subject at that Site.

For me VIP stands for "Vagina Is Prepared". Definitely mine and hopefully the dancer's too ;)

That's my sister! No stripper can resist her!

Really cannot comment on the subject because around here you can get a hand job during a 2/45 dance special lol.

I'm curious as to what Rachelmmm is actually willing to do? Does she like the idea of getting a guy off in his pants? Is she repulsed by the idea of a guy fondling her body? These things would be good to know.

^^^ If she is hesitant about physical contact with patrons, perhaps an Air Dance ONLY club would be suitable. Only she knows.

The main thing is do not promise anything you are not willing to deliver. Do not insinuate, lie or promise what you are not willing to do.
Don't work at an extras club. Even in areas that there are many 'extras' clubs there are clubs that do not allow that. The other ting is only go to VIP with guys you are comfortable with. If you continue to dance "I have been told by several dancers" you will learn to figure out quickly how your comfort level is with a patron. Some guys just want to have fun and some just want a quick pop.

Lol lopaw

I believe Rachel mentioned in another thread that she worked @ Cheetah Atlanta and that club is known for low-mileage non-extras upscale club.

Rachel will have some sort of an advantage in that she won’t be needing to compete w/ girls that will perform extras in the VIP; i.e. she’s kinda playing w/ an even field – and most custies @ Cheetah either are not the hardcore SC types and are thus not looking for, nor know they can have, extras in a SC; or already know they cannot be had at Cheetah.

Being that no extras is a club rule and not necessarily up to the dancer; a Cheetah dancer does not have to promise too much and just basically can promise what the club allows in VIP, which doesn’t seem to be too much.

Cheetah being upscale; an Atlanta seeming to be a business hub, I would imagine there are a good # of high rollers that would not mind, and can afford, forking over the VIP $$$ for some good company comprising of drinks, some laughs, and some descent dances.

I don't think I ever said I was hesitant about just contact with a patron. I try to incorporate at least a little brisk contact during a $10 floor dance. You just have to be careful though or the house mom will get on you. In VIP I like being touched and getting to give 'real' lap dances since we can't straddle on the main floor. From the time I've spent at my club so far I think tiredtravele's comment was pretty spot on though. The only time I was really uncomfortable in VIP was when I was vague with this guy about what was actually gonna happen. He was really blunt about wanting to take me there immediately and when we got there and the bouncer closed the door he immediately whipped his dick out. I covered my eyes and turned around and he starts spouting off about how much money he'll give me and how it was only this much at oasis...blah blah blah. That was my third night there. It made me feel so embarrassed and uncomfortable that I just left and went back to the main stage. I think VIP is the most fun when I have time to get comfortable with the guy or if I'm already attracted to him, or both of course.

Duomaxwell is a stripper that has posted quite a bit on here. She tried working at the Cheetah and went back to Virginia. You may want to send her a private message.

I do work at cheetah but I don't go by Rachel there. I think we do have a Rachel there though. I'll leave my stage name a secret on here. Papi's comment was also pretty spot on. Most of the VIPs I've gotten happen when I just kinda get picked off stage and I go with a group of at least 2 guys. There's a lot less pressure in these groups. On slower nights though dancers are more inclined to approach customers. Even though I dance I'm kind of shy so I'm still working on this.

“… I think VIP is the most fun when I have time to get comfortable with the guy or if I'm already attracted to him …”


Being that you are young; I would imagine you would be “attracted to” someone also rather young and good looking. Young good looking guys often don’t go to SCs and if they do; they may be fun to hang out w/ at the club but most of them don’t tend to spend much $$$. It is often the older not so attractive dudes that will have the $$$ and be willing to spend it.

Ask any experienced dancer if she prefers a young good looking guy or an older not so good looking guy; most will opt for the latter (if they want to get paid).

An SC is not a dance club where dancers go seeking out the hot guys; they seek out the guys w/ the deep pockets irrespective of looks.

I don't necessarily mean young or attractive. Most of the guys that go for VIP are older and the majority of customers at cheetah are businessmen. (35+ except for Saturdays usually) I just mean they're not overly handsy or running under the assumption that because I dance I must offer 'services' outside the club. That kills the mood for me when that continues to come up after they've gotten an answer

As gmd and crsm said. Thanks for a new acronymn, lopaw. That's a good one.

" that because I dance I must offer 'services' outside the club. That kills the mood for me when that continues to come up after they've gotten an answer"

Some IDIOTS don't understand "No" or "I don't wish to" or wish to accept it as an answer from a dancer. They feel EXTREMELY entitled.

I expect anything and everything above a HJ. And it is to be "contracted" beforehand.

Seems like every trip to the VIP has had something memorable happen. A few things I liked:

- GOOD: Once a woman said, near the end of the session, "All there is is this thin piece of fabric between you and me." Kind of cool in a detail-oriented sort of way, even though I wished the fabric wasn't there.

- BAD: Had bought a few lap dances for the groom at a bachelor party with a girl a few weeks before. Saw the girl again and treated myself to a room. She tried to unscrew the lightbulb in the room so she could do some sneaky things ... but they came in a minute or two later and told her to screw it back in. Session was lame after that and ended with her trying to dance with me as if we were in a dance club, not a strip club. Gah.

- WORSE: Put a finger up around a woman's mouth, expecting her to suck on it seductively. She said, "Careful, I bite." I said, "Sounds fun." She bit so hard on the base of my nail, it took about two months for the bruise/blood mark to grow out. Thought the nail might fall off. If I hadn't have pulled back, she might have bit my finger off.

- WORST: Woman I had given a massage to before while sitting in the club -- she loved it. Demanded I go back with her for 15 minute VIP session. Demanded to ride me until I came. Demanded to give me her phone number for dinner sometime. All of this was fine. Then she started asking me if I did ecstasy or if I'd mind if she did some when we went out. Turn off.

- BEST: Woman was well-dressed in a tight, white gown that left nothing to the imagination but was also something you'd see at a dinner party. Hair up, glasses, very classy. Tan, slight latino look but not really ethnically distinct. So glad I got her attention. Good conversation. Decided on a dance. We get in the back. She waits for a new song. She starts by standing up, looking at me, ripping her glasses off and letting down her hair before turning back around and grinding me while she has me pull down her top. Ended up spending more on VIP with her than I have ever spent, and may ever spend again. It was the ultimate good-girl-gone-bad fantasy and it was awesome.

Rachelmmm's question was what do we EXPECT in VIP. My general rule is to begin with no expectations, even if I have high hopes. Then, I only expect what she says I should expect.

Now, I have no interest in being teased, so if she does not tell me we will do everything, my inclination is to politely decline the offer to accompany her to VIP.

As for the price, $500 is more than double the maximum I would be willing to pay, even for doing everything in VIP.

At my fave club here's what I expect: the manager comes with us to the room to take the money and tell me no touching of the breasts or bikini area. Then he/she leaves and the dancer plants my hands on her tatas. A short while later the dancer often moves in for DFK action. About 50% of the time, she then presents her kitty for my dining pleasure. If I'm wearing shorts, many of the dancers will find the wooden object and give it some manual stimulation. Only once, this lead to oral attention on her part. This is what I expect from VIP at my fave club.

Just back dat azz up

What I have learned to expect in the VIP through multiple experiences in different clubs spread out in different states is...

Except the same she's doing in the non-vip lapdance area.

It's just going to costs more and have more hassle.

Most clubs have not very private lapdance areas where dark corners can be found. The bouncer isn't sitting there looking at you (usually...) and other dancers aren't paying attention to your dancer (usually...). But in the VIP, there's a camera (usually), I have had the bouncers barge in for a warning.

And they see you paying for extra time "privacy" with the dancer and assume, you got money to spend!!! why can't you buy this bottle of champagne also? and buy the dancer a drink ($20 bottle of water), and...

And the dancer, well, as soon as that VIP is over, sometimes they have a more special one that just a little more expensive.

All this, an essentially, she has her boundaries and they aren't changing because you gave the club more money for a curtain.

If anything, really, she's going to see that 15/30/60 minutes as "sealed deal" the minute you give the bouncer money for the room and start slacking. Paying per song, she's gotta keep it up for the next one.

Of course, this does all very club to club, state to state, and lady to lady.

I love it - some moron bumps a thread that’s actually older than 2Icee, another moron replies to it like it was posted last night and then I’m the 3rd moron making fun of the first two morons. Meanwhile we found 3 morons and Subraman still isn’t in the conversation.

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