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4 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
That's pretty much the way I want to go. I want my last words to be "just move a little to the left... THERE! Stay right ther--"
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4 years ago
"Trips from Stockholm to Gotland -- a popular vacation destination -- dropped by 96% over the Easter weekend, according to data from the country’s largest mobile operator, Telia Company. And online service Citymapper’s statistics indicate an almost 75% drop in mobility in the capital."
This is an incredible amount of ingrained "civil obedience" that is not reproducible here. To whatever extent Sweden is successful -- and the jury is still out -- nothing close to these numbers are likely achievable anywhere else
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4 years ago
I promised myself I'd stick to stripper and SJG organization talk here, but I'm a glutton for punishment :)
There's a few things to keep in mind about the Swedish model:
- Over 40% of people live alone. It has some of the lowest amounts of inter-generational households in the world
- An enormous number of Swedes are working from home, over 90% in major companies, a huge amount in general (lost the cite, sorry! will find it)
- There is near-universal access to Sweden's excellent healthcare system
- There is a strong, cultural sense of civic duty, and confidence in the state. Swedes have high confidence in their politicians, who in turn have high confidence in citizens. The government has given suggestions, not orders, and based on that alone, public transit saw ridership fall 50%+. In short, part of what Sweden has done is replaced legislated lockdowns with government suggestions with voluntary guidelines that civic-minded Swedish citizens just tend to follow.
Literally none of those things apply in the US (particularly the last one, which is arguably the MOST important), or any other country in Europe, for that matter, so there's no reason to think any other country would get the same results. Even with the unique Swedish cultural context, the death rate in Sweden per person is 5x and 9x, respectively, the most comparable countries; Norway and Finland, which both have lockdowns.
Anyway, just a caution on projecting Swedish methods on the US, or any other country except Sweden. No chance Americans voluntarily reproduce what the Swedes do.
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4 years ago
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SubramanCar key and wallet dating your sister
I started watching Zerozerozero on Amazon Prime. It is a series (not sure how many episodes) about a cocaine shipment, starting from when Italian criminals buy it, it's journey through Mexico and trip across the Atlantic. So far, at least, it's a super interesting, complex look at the dynamics in Mexico, the American family brokering the deal, and the Italians. Definitely need to pay attention to keep on top of what's going on as the three stories all intermesh
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4 years ago
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founderslip a dollar in her g-string for me
She blots out the sun
Seven on the richter scale
It's just papi's girl
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4 years ago
Adding TFP to the potential invitee list. Note the way to curry favor with the organization SJG is building, minions!
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4 years ago
New coronavirus news: Lone_Wolf's browser seen wearing a confederate flag and protesting the lockdown
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4 years ago
I hear he gave his browser chloroquine and now it's on a ventilator
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4 years ago
So, three bits of news: lots of people have been exposed to coronavirus, remdesivir is promising, and Lone Wolf's browser forgot how to internet
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4 years ago
Other news: final results on a small remdesivir study are still to be published and peer-reviewed, but word coming out of the study is they expect to show significant clinical impact. Good news if it holds.
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4 years ago
L_W: your browser sucks at the internet. It works fine for me
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4 years ago
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CJKent (Banned)“The more a person needs to be right, the less certain he is...”
IT's still real to me, dammit!
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4 years ago
In any case -- more hot Takis for me!
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4 years ago
you wouldn't say that to sjg's face
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4 years ago
You guys and your snide remarks. I happen to know sjg is doing far more important things than slacking with the likes of you all. To wit, he is hard at work putting together our organization, the one where incredibly hot chicks will let us dump loads in the for practically nothing. I am archiving this thread so sjg knows who not to invite to the organization. Right now, the only thing standing between us and incredibly success is a lack of hot chicks, any sort of organization, any money to speak of, men interested in joining, another bag of hot takis, and sjg's mom letting him out of the basement to do anything but throw the garbage.
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4 years ago
Sorry -- to add in to londonguy's direct question, his handling of coronavirus, especially the skepticism on the front end and the inability to accelerate testing in the thick of it, will become issues. If he pulls the economy out somewhat before Nov, he might be able to minimize those issues.
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4 years ago
Given the right will stick with Trump, and liberals with go with Biden, the questions are: 1. where's the center going, 2. is the far left energized to come out for Biden? I have no idea about #2, other than to note that there are rumblings among progressives to "punish" the Democrats for not going with Bernie, by not coming out. But the center -- particularly women -- may end up the real question. My gut feel is that the center, including the parts that went with Trump last election, is going Biden unless he implodes due to his own bumbling, the sexual assault charges have legs, etc. His to lose.
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4 years ago
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founderslip a dollar in her g-string for me
founder: does the forum software allow you to appoint a mod with more limited powers, who could do this for you?
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4 years ago
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founderslip a dollar in her g-string for me
IF it were an option, my vote would be keep the political room, all political posts in Front Room get moved there
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4 years ago
Beautiful body with an attractive face and a trashy, mischievous, "I'm about to make some very poor choices" look in her eye. Sign me up.
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4 years ago
But yes, cute, agree with RamPaige, but that might go up depending on her body
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4 years ago
It looks like that one tooth took a knee to protest the tattoo
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4 years ago
"Those are probably redneck rightwing militias they have in that area"
Looked like it. The gun and Confederate flags set lol. Between you and I, those are my peeps, but we have different perspectives on this one. LW, it was definitely expected... eventually. Not when you guys predicted it 4 weeks ago, but yes, if things aren't lifted, those incorrect predictions will definitely work themselves around to be correct. Doesn't take a genius to figure the furthest right and restless young people first. Still, with national support at 70%, we're talking at a relatively small minority... for now. The longer it goes on, the more people start squirming, which is why squandering these last few weeks instead of preparing for test&trace, etc., was such a disservice to the American people.
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4 years ago
"Most of us will get it. We are just buying time to build up medical resources. I think there is some sort of misconception that this is just going away."
That's right, we are buying time for a few things to happen, among them, being able to switch to a different strategy that doesn't require stringent lockdowns -- e.g. the one strategy we know works, test & trace. But if, for example, the time has been squandered, then expect slower release of the lockdowns in proportion to test scale.
To be clear with you, I'm agreeing with you; I think the question is, given where we are with testing resources, at what speed can we back off. The faster the better, obviously.
In other promising news, the potential drug pipeline seems to keep growing. There's a number of medications that are targeted at parasites (cheap and plentiful) that are being looked at, in addition to all those monoclonal antibody medications, etc.
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4 years ago
GAmma, 100% agree that: 1. the economic damage is significant, 2. it's the president's job to lead us out of it. He's unfortunately hurt his credibility because such a critical part of #2 was to define and drive us towards the conditions by which this could happen as quickly as possible with the best possible tradeoffs