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10 years ago
@zipperhead68 “I have to disagree with the comment that the US constitution was a stellar document”
of course you do. haters gonna hate, progressives gonna goose step, zipperhead68’s gonna keep on sucking george soros’ hate filled progressive nazi dick
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10 years ago
@londonguy. here’s the answer to your question. Fox News is one of the LEAST biased of the major news organizations. that is unless you are going to believe rockstar666 and zipperhead68 when they try to tell you that the Koch brothers secretly bought UCLA to use as a front to put out right wing talking points disguised as in depth academic research using legitimate methodologies.
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664
Media bias is real, finds UCLA political scientist
While the editorial page of The Wall Street Journal is conservative, the newspaper's news pages are liberal, even more liberal than the New York Times. The Drudge Report may have a right-wing reputation, but it leans left. Coverage by public television and radio is conservative compared to the rest of the mainstream media. Meanwhile, almost all major media outlets tilt to the left.
These are just a few of the surprising findings from a UCLA-led study, which is believed to be the first successful attempt at objectively quantifying bias in a range of media outlets and ranking them accordingly.
"I suspected that many media outlets would tilt to the left because surveys have shown that reporters tend to vote more Democrat than Republican," said Tim Groseclose, a UCLA political scientist and the study's lead author. "But I was surprised at just how pronounced the distinctions are."
"Overall, the major media outlets are quite moderate compared to members of Congress, but even so, there is a quantifiable and significant bias in that nearly all of them lean to the left," said co author Jeffrey Milyo, University of Missouri economist and public policy scholar.
The results appear in the latest issue of the Quarterly Journal of Economics, which will become available in mid-December.
Groseclose and Milyo based their research on a standard gauge of a lawmaker's support for liberal causes. Americans for Democratic Action (ADA) tracks the percentage of times that each lawmaker votes on the liberal side of an issue. Based on these votes, the ADA assigns a numerical score to each lawmaker, where "100" is the most liberal and "0" is the most conservative. After adjustments to compensate for disproportionate representation that the Senate gives to low population states and the lack of representation for the District of Columbia, the average ADA score in Congress (50.1) was assumed to represent the political position of the average U.S.voter.
Groseclose and Milyo then directed 21 research assistants — most of them college students — to scour U.S. media coverage of the past 10 years. They tallied the number of times each media outlet referred to think tanks and policy groups, such as the left-leaning NAACP or the right-leaning Heritage Foundation.
Next, they did the same exercise with speeches of U.S. lawmakers. If a media outlet displayed a citation pattern similar to that of a lawmaker, then Groseclose and Milyo's method assigned both a similar ADA score.
"A media person would have never done this study," said Groseclose, a UCLA political science professor, whose research and teaching focuses on the U.S. Congress. "It takes a Congress scholar even to think of using ADA scores as a measure. And I don't think many media scholars would have considered comparing news stories to congressional speeches."
Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS' "Evening News," The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.
Only Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter.
The most centrist outlet proved to be the "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer." CNN's "News Night With Aaron Brown" and ABC's "Good Morning America" were a close second and third.
"Our estimates for these outlets, we feel, give particular credibility to our efforts, as three of the four moderators for the 2004 presidential and vice-presidential debates came from these three news outlets — Jim Lehrer, CharlieGibson and Gwen Ifill," Groseclose said. "If these newscasters weren't centrist, staffers for one of the campaign teams would have objected and insisted on other moderators."
The fourth most centrist outlet was "Special Report With Brit Hume" on Fox News, which often is cited by liberals as an egregious example of a right-wing outlet. While this news program proved to be right of center, the study found ABC's "World News Tonight" and NBC's "Nightly News" to be left of center. All three outlets were approximately equidistant from the center, the report found.
"If viewers spent an equal amount of time watching Fox's 'Special Report' as ABC's'World News' and NBC's 'Nightly News,' then they would receive a nearly perfectly balanced version of the news," said Milyo, an associate professor of economics and public affairs at the University of Missouri at Columbia.
Five news outlets — "NewsHour With Jim Lehrer," ABC's"Good Morning America," CNN's "News Night With Aaron Brown," Fox News' "Special Report With Brit Hume" and the Drudge Report — were in a statistical dead heat in the race for the most centrist news outlet. Of the print media, USA Today was the most centrist.
An additional feature of the study shows how each outlet compares in political orientation with actual lawmakers. The news pages of The Wall Street Journal scored a little to the left of the average American Democrat, as determined by the average ADA score of all Democrats in Congress (85 versus 84). With scores in the mid-70s, CBS' "Evening News" and The New York Times looked similar to Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., who has an ADA score of 74.
Most of the outlets were less liberal than Lieberman but more liberal than former Sen. John Breaux, D-La. Those media outlets included the Drudge Report, ABC's"World News Tonight," NBC's "Nightly News," USA Today, NBC's "Today Show," Time magazine, U.S. News & World Report, Newsweek, NPR's "Morning Edition," CBS' "Early Show" and The Washington Post.
Since Groseclose and Milyo were more concerned with bias in news reporting than opinion pieces, which are designed to stake a political position, they omitted editorials and Op Eds from their tallies. This is one reason their study finds The Wall Street Journal more liberal than conventional wisdom asserts.
Another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom was that the Drudge Report was slightly left of center.
"One thing people should keep in mind is that our data for the Drudge Report was based almost entirely on the articles that the Drudge Report lists on other Websites," said Groseclose. "Very little was based on the stories that Matt Drudge himself wrote. The fact that the Drudge Report appears left of center is merely a reflection of the overall bias of the media."
Yet another finding that contradicted conventional wisdom relates to National Public Radio, often cited by conservatives as an egregious example of a liberal news outlet. But according to the UCLA-University of Missouri study, it ranked eighth most liberal of the 20 that the study examined.
"By our estimate, NPR hardly differs from the average mainstream news outlet," Groseclose said. "Its score is approximately equal to those of Time, Newsweek and U.S. News & World Report and its score is slightly more conservative than The Washington Post's. If anything, government funded outlets in our sample have a slightly lower average ADA score (61), than the private outlets in our sample (62.8)."
The researchers took numerous steps to safeguard against bias — or the appearance of same — in the work, which took close to three years to complete. They went to great lengths to ensure that as many research assistants supported Democratic candidate Al Gore in the 2000 election as supported President George Bush. They also sought no outside funding, a rarity in scholarly research.
"No matter the results, we feared our findings would've been suspect if we'd received support from any group that could be perceived as right- or left-leaning, so we consciously decided to fund this project only with our own salaries and research funds that our own universities provided," Groseclose said.
The results break new ground.
"Past researchers have been able to say whether an outlet is conservative or liberal, but no one has ever compared media outlets to lawmakers," Groseclose said. "Our work gives a precise characterization of the bias and relates it to a known commodity — politicians."
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10 years ago
i see farmerart has been combining his two favorite hobbies of America bashing and revising history again. well let me see what my handy dandy history book says about US presidents and Vietnam which farmerart called “the biggest foreign policy fuck-up of USA since WWII”.
hmmmm, this is interesting. it says here that the first president to commit the US to the Indochina conflict was a guy called H.S. Truman when in May 1950, he authorized a program of economic and military aid to have the french contain the spread of communism in Indochina after he, Truman, lost China to the communists. wow is that the same Truman that farmerart said was “Hands down the best president since WWII” and who he credited with having “the brains to make seriously good decisions”? not very good decisions if you ask me but at least he didn’t send US troops.
let’s see, yeah here it is, that distinction goes to some guy called Eisenhower. it says after france signed the Dien Bien Phu accords in 1954 giving the communist Vietminh control of Indo-China north of the 17th parallel, AKA North Vietnam that Eisenhower found this unacceptable. he PERSONALLY developed the domino theory, increased military aid and SENT MILITARY ADVISERS to the non-communist South Vietnam government. that sure doesn’t sound like farmerart’s Eisenhower who he said “was so bored with the job that he didn't really make any serious decisions as president”. nah expanding on the Truman Doctrine and sending American troops to “the biggest foreign policy fuck-up of USA since WWII” doesn’t sound like a serious decision at all.
maybe you should try picking up and reading something other than mao’s little red book sometime art.
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10 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
@Dougster “My prediction is he'll just see the futility of trying to fight on behalf of people who just don't care and head down the right road at some point. Happens to all of them.”
actually, if memory serves, it was none other than Ernesto Che Guevara who belatedly admitted the futility of trying to tell other people that they should live their lives by following his lunatic philosophies right after those same ungrateful peasants turned his ass in and right before his dumbass stood in front of a long overdue firing squad.
so there is still a shred of hope that sometimes things work out as they should.
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10 years ago
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san_jose_guymoney was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
@Dougster “And alot of nuttiness too”
"alot of nuttiness"? now there is an understatement. san_jose_guy is a classic example of a brain damaged crackpot. if i had to guess i would bet that his mother was one of those hippy chicks who chain smoked, binge drank and tripped out on LSD throughout her pregnancy. he has no idea which of the twenty guys in the commune who shared his mother is his father. rather than being raised by a village he was sexually abused by the commune at large. from there, based on his rantings, it is pretty obvious that his mother left the commune (it is unclear whether she took him with her or not) and became an evangelical christian. no wonder he is a social pariah who probably spends his days yelling at passing cars while wandering among traffic after thug bouncers throw him out of every strip club within 100 miles of san jose for stalking dancers.
he dreams of becoming the next jim jones leading hundreds of people off to a socialist utopia which would of course turn out to be another psychotic dystopian prison state as all socialist utopias do. he will never achieve his dream of leading like minded people (or any people at all for that matter) which is readily apparent to anyone who bothers to notice that every dancer on this board totally ignores him despite his repeated pestering trying to get them to respond. so he won’t be the next jim jones or even the next charlie manson. much more likely, the next unabomber.
you heard it here first.
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10 years ago
@JohnSmith69 “…then I will never again call jerikson a female or a woman. On the honor of my DS I pledge to accurately report to all whether jerikson is a man or a woman”
What are you, like six years old?
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10 years ago
@Diva. You know what you need to do with losers who think there is or ever could be anything more than a cash up front business relationship and won’t face reality.
These broke ass losers expect this, they want it, they NEED it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r4uUQBLokk
So be a good girl and give him the boot. And be sure you use your heel to crush not only his heart but also his nuts and any last delusions of manhood he may still have. I’m rooting for you.
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10 years ago
@farmerart “Obama has been one of the great US presidents for stock market investors.”
hmmmm. if only there was a way we could evaluate your judgment about what makes a great politician. maybe something like a previous opinion. oh wait here it is:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=29029#comment312567
@farmerart “Tommy Douglas was the best Prime Minister that Canada never had.”
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=29029#comment312571
@farmerart “Tommy Douglas is one of my very few Canadian political heroes.”
that would be the same Tommy Douglas who wanted to build Canadian concentration camps for ”those deemed to be "subnormal" because of low intelligence, moral laxity or venereal disease” and to carry out a Canadian genocidal pogrom to eradicate “those judged to be mentally defective or incurably diseased”.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Douglas_%28minister%29
M.A. thesis on eugenics
Douglas graduated from Brandon College in 1930, and completed his Master's degree (M.A.) in Sociology from McMaster University in 1933. His thesis entitled The Problems of the Subnormal Family endorsed eugenics. The thesis proposed a system that would have required couples seeking to marry to be certified as mentally and morally fit. Those deemed to be "subnormal" because of low intelligence, moral laxity or venereal disease would be sent to state farms or camps while those judged to be mentally defective or incurably diseased would be sterilized.
okay so much for your competency to make judgments about politicians. only in the minds of limousine liberals like yourself can “the worst” be considered “the best”, can “ruination” be considered “progress” and can “looting the public treasury” be considered “an economic boom”. obama’s (JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT IN HISTORY) most significant effects won’t truly be felt until years after his time in office and it is unlikely he will either be rightly credited or blamed for those effects but let’s not let that get in the way of your troll thread.
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10 years ago
@zipperhead68 “I just don't like the fact that HE judges Brother LDKâ€
as always you have it wrong. i am NOT judging the mentally handicapped 12 year old boy who likes to sit in the corner laughing about cumming in his pants. but i am judging YOU for your incessant fantasizing about, encouraging, and preying upon a mentally handicapped 12 year old boy who likes to sit in the corner laughing about cumming in his pants.
yeah, yeah, yeah i know – i’m on your list and as soon as you and george soros get your fourth reich socialist utopia up and running i’ll be the first one you put in your death camp.
here’s a suggestion - why don’t you spend more time fantasizing about how you and george are going to do it right this time finishing the job to rid the world of people like me and spend less time fantasizing about how you are going to shove a live chicken up your ass while you play “good touch – bad touch†with lapdanceking82. sick fucking dumbass nazi
are we in the "not fun zone" yet? dumbass
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10 years ago
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=30152#comment326984
@joker44 “'Everything written on this site should be considered a work of fiction.â€
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10 years ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
@ilbbaicnl “Jerkison, thanks for clarifying that you're a racist fuckwad.â€
find a kindred spirit did you ilbbaicnl?
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10 years ago
what the hell is wrong with everyone?
i for one have been to Lebanon and i can tell you that not only do the guys like women just like normal guys everywhere else but they also have some great food and fantastic beaches full of hot babes. so enough of all this identity politics and bigotry shit already
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10 years ago
^^^^but if you're go for it anyway at least try not to appear soooo fucking anxious
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10 years ago
@sclvr5005 “How gay ARE you????â€
whoa there spidey.
i’m glad to see that you’ve accepted your homosexuality and are coming out of the closet but it seems to me that you trying to pick up anonymous guys on line right off the bat is a little like jumping into the deep end. why don’t you start off by just going to a gay bath house instead…..just saying
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10 years ago
@gawker. in the next chapter of your tale have @zipperhead68 and @ilbbaicnl take her to Canada as an illegal immigrant for her healthcare needs. that should put an end to her and the baby.
then have her boyfriend go on a lecture tour starting with @lapdanceking82’s fourth grade special ed class speaking about how the danger of drug abuse is totally worth it if you are a dumbass cuckold who cums in his pants whenever a woman enters the room. that should put an end to your worries about him too.
then you can come to follies for Caprisun69's b'day party and have cake and ice cream with the rest of us.
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10 years ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
@ilbbaicnl. tell them about the oreos and the fig newtons. now that is some racist shit. and girl scout cookies. that’s just code for sexist old white men who think they can buy women like a commodity, er forget that last part – buying women as a commodity is okay if it is for sex and you can’t get it any other way but the cookies themselves are still sexist.
solidarity brother
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10 years ago
LDK is short for @lapdanceking82 a 12 year old boy that posts on this board and cums in his pants at the thought of someday seeing a naked woman
CF is current favourite
PL is pathetic loser epitomized by our resident left-wing goose-stepping george soros accolyte @zipman86 (aka zipperhead, aka comicbookguy, aka KampKommandant)
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10 years ago
wtf are you talking about? are you talking about a grown man jazzing in his pants???
so you believe that 60% of guys getting a LD and 100% of guys going into VIP are so sexually, socially, psychologically dysfunctional that they actually jizz in their pants.
maybe the stripper you were talking to chooses to service ONLY the most PATHETIC of PLs.
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10 years ago
@steve229: at once succinct and enigmatic :-)
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10 years ago
@Caprisun69. thank you for the personal invitation. are you going to have cake and ice cream? i like cake and ice cream. especially ice cream. any flavor will do except for tootie fruity. i don’t swing that way but if you are expecting sclvr5005 i suppose you will have to have tootie fruity.
something else that i really like is oreo cookies but i’m boycotting them. Ilbbaicnl told me they are racist. solidarity brother, er sister(?) or whatever the fuck you are ilbbaicnl.
i imagine you will have lots of clowns at your party, a regular clown fest but a word of advice – make it clear that magicians aren’t welcome otherwise zipperhead68 is likely to show up with his one and only trick. i don’t know what you think but frankly that guy is such a big asshole that it just isn’t very impressive when he keisters 20 live chickens up his poop chute.
i look forward to meeting you. i’ll be the guy trying to hump a stripper’s leg. see you there
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10 years ago
@shadowcat “but as history has shown, you cannot believe everything he says.â€
say whhaaaat?!? just thank about it
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10 years ago
@sclvr5005 â€So just ignore him like everyone else here does.â€
www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=29864#comment323014
hey spidey, do you or do you not have jerikson40 on ignore like everyone else? or is this just a man crush? . homosexuality is nothing to be afraid of little buddy. go ahead and let it all out
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10 years ago
@tumblingdice: at once succinct and enigmatic :-)
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10 years ago
or be selling their ass on the street corner
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10 years ago
you can get much farther with a kind word and a gun than you can with a kind word alone.
- Al Capone