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5 years ago
@Wolf: I've only done the thing that can obviously produce pregnancy a couple times in my life. I only have one partner with whom I go raw, and my pull-out game is strong. I go covered with anyone else.
I've finished in there a couple times on with the one partner on intentional special occasions, then have personally accompanied her to go buy Plan B. She doesn't like how it messes with her, and doesn't want to do both control, so we don't do it more often.
Long story short, that's not something I mess around with. I don't need that scare.
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5 years ago
Once, looking to turn left onto a street, I saw a bus coming from my left. I went to hit the brake, but my foot slipped off, so I drifted right in front of the oncoming bus, bearing down on my driver-side door at 40 mph.
I panicked and hit the gas pedal, barely escaping the bus and driving at an angle onto the opposite shoulder.
My life truly flashed before my eyes.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Bumping again because some guys can't let Banks/Scott go.
discussion comment
5 years ago
Bumping this as we're still discussing Banks/Scott.
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5 years ago
I had to fish to find this one, as it somehow fell off the front page despite having a post five hours ago. It's as if the trolls had nothing better to do tonight.
Anyhow, here's the final tally:
SCOTT: 11
BANKS: 8
NEITHER: 5
S̶c̶o̶t̶t̶?̶ ̶S̶c̶o̶t̶t̶:̶ ̶2̶
Scott moves on, though she becomes the fourth winner we've had out of our 30 first-round matchups, and third in the pornstar bracket, who won with less than 50 percent of the vote ('Neither' counts; anything that's been struck through hasn't).
Scott doesn't get an easy draw in the second round, as Eva Angelina was a popular choice a few days ago. Two cute faces will do battle.
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5 years ago
I very rarely spend what I can't afford to lose. So I struggle to see a situation where I'd seek reprisal.
Usually, if I get taken, I point the finger at myself moreso than the ROB. We gotta be smart enough to see through their shit.
The one where I was the most frustrated was a dancer in Vegas. She implied she could be sneaky in the next-level room and I was stupid and paid up front. When another dancer/customer posted up in a booth across from us, and the bouncer took his sweet time to get them set up, she got gunshy. Did she get around to what was implied? Of course not.
But when we were done and I was like, "That wasn't any different than in the lapper room," all I got were blinking fake eyelashes and a two-sentence lecture on how certain activities are illegal and were never going to happen unless thousands of dollars were spent. I proceeded to give her the reasons why she should feel guilty about her about-face on her sales tactic. No reaction or further words. I finally just realized I was wasting my time and left.
The most I think I ever spent in a night was probably around $1,200, and I got my moneys worth out of OTC with a pair of the most sought-after blondes in a particular club. Most of the time, I never even approach that, and wouldn't consider approaching it. So I can't see myself getting to the point of wanting retribution.
We all get taken sometimes. The idea is to get taken so badly that you can't recover.
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5 years ago
A lot of us true mongers are disappointed about Penthouse dying. I've had a chance to do a lot of fun stuff and see a lot of things in my non-club life. Sorry, but in the Top 10 dopamine rushes I've had, I'd have to say one or two trips to Penthouse has to be right up there.
The problem is moreso with people who see sex and prostitution as a problem, but that's a much bigger issue.
The chances of your Tara Reid bike rider still doing her thing someplace are probably slim.
In my first trip to PH, which was also probably 10 years ago or so, there was a redheaded dancer who gleefully advertised she was a gymnast who normally worked day shift during her flexible final pole show. I badly wanted to give her a shot, but she retired behind the bar after her set, then to the dressing room and wasn't seen again that night. I don't get back often, but yeah, probably long gone. Turnover among dancers there was high.
That said, the word is many PH dancers have migrated to FC, where the experience remains largely the same. Some have complained about prices going up; I think smart negotiating can keep you in a decent ballpark.
Among dancers I can remember from Penthouse:
- Jade or Jayda was an enhanced asian. I saw someone like her on stage at Flight Club my last visit, but the boobs seemed smaller and she had more ink, so I'm thinking it wasn't the same lady.
- Nicole was a busty blonde with lingerie-like ribbon tattoos on the back of her legs. No idea where she landed.
- Zoe was another asian who wasn't providing extras. No idea on her, either.
- Kennedy was very popular. Busty blonde from Texas. She did text me once saying she was "in trouble" and "needed help;" I knew where it was going and wasn't going to be the one to send money from a distance. Another dancer mentioned something about a pimp without getting into specifics. Hope she didn't get in TOO much trouble. The last time I texted her number, no response. A little afraid to text further, as who knows who has their hands on her phone now.
- Daisy was also very popular but selective. Braces beneath blonde hair and under a sweetheart's face, albeit with a true hourglass figure. Never got to experience her ITC, but did have an OTC experience with her, through Kennedy's help. She's the closest thing I've had to a GFE in a club. Seemed to legit love my massages. Kennedy said she'd send me her number. Never did. I fear I've lost track of her.
- Jade was a small but busty brunette I met in my last "good" visit. We've reconnected and she apparently is forgoing clubs and just doing the outside thing with previous clients. I got the impression she wasn't doing PH as a primary career before, so she can afford to lose some business.
If anyone has info on the long-losts, I'd be up for it, here or in a PM.
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5 years ago
@SuperDude: I gotta say ... really?
I find a lot of that hard to believe.
I struggle to think Penthouse activities filtered that far flung outside of the club.
The only thing there I feel is wholly believable is the street parking bit, but even with that, I never even thought to park in a dark side street just off that part of 8 Mile at night. There are far easier ways to get robbed or commit suicide, particularly carrying the amount of money needed to have fun at Penthouse on you. Were that many people risk-takers like that? Really?
Plus, is the neighborhood around the actual club all that great that they're really thinking about property values and whatnot? Yes, there are nicer homes to the west near 8 Mile, but significantly to the west. Around the club? I went looking on Google Maps; those homes on Braile and Patton ain't much to write home about. There are far worse parts of Detroit, sure, but I don't think we're talking GM & Ford executives living in those postwar ranch houses with tiny yards.
Urinating in the streets? Again, I'm not convinced that many drunks were stumbling out of there into the neighborhood, and honestly, big whoop. Go golfing; guys just go to the woods and find a tree all the time. I peed in my own yard once when I really needed to go after a long drive and didn't think I'd make it to the bathroom. Hell, it's good for the grass.
Sex in parked cars? Again, in and around 8 Mile? Again, this strikes me as too dumb for most people to do, plus, hello, FS and whatever else you wanted was wholly available in the club. Who would bother going outside? And just into a car? I did OTC from PH once, but the parties involved met me at my hotel room.
Noise at closing? I've been outside of PH at closing. Sure, a lot of cars and whatnot, but it's just groups of folks talking, usually well shielded by the walls of the place. Maybe the occasional idiots honking their horns or bumping trap at a loud volume, but again, on 8 Mile, that's not exclusive to the club.
Yes, the churches and neighborhoods have pride and want to feel like they're doing something, so they go after the most obvious of the easy and worst targets. But I feel like their case against Penthouse feels exaggerated, almost highly so. When I read claims like that in other articles, I found them laughable, which is why I feel like a lot of this is moreso comical than anything.
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5 years ago
I personally have never smoked anything. I've seen regular-old cigarette smoking do bad things to good people, and I don't personally care for the smell of marijuana, either. I'll be happy to never try it myself.
That said, I live in a state where it's not technically legal in any sense, though in the city where I live, possession of a small amount is only punishable by a $50 fine.
Go to the right concerts around here and you definitely get a whiff. I think they're not real diligent about enforcing that fine, particularly in certain environments. Get caught swerving around while driving or doing something else problematic and you have it on you? Yeah, they'll tack it on. But they're not going to go looking for it or trying to stop it in places where it's non-problematic.
Extras are against the rules/law at a lot of places and dancers still get away with them. Just because it's the law doesn't mean it doesn't happen, or that there's constant active enforcement. Weed is moving closer to being legal all over. I don't think a lot of cops or places are going to mind if a person uses it in a relatively private place like the smoking area of a strip club.
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5 years ago
@VH: I'm calling that a vote for Banks.
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5 years ago
Time to shut it down.
The twins got some of you to bite, but not enough. I will throw one more vote Gia's way.
GENEVIEVE: 15
The POTTERS: 8
NEITHER: 3
̶N̶o̶t̶ ̶f̶u̶n̶n̶y̶,̶ ̶C̶a̶s̶h̶:̶ ̶2̶
̶A̶ ̶l̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶f̶o̶l̶l̶o̶w̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶r̶u̶c̶t̶i̶o̶n̶s̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶C̶l̶u̶b̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶&̶ ̶I̶ ̶d̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶ ̶e̶y̶e̶-̶t̶o̶-̶e̶y̶e̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶W̶E̶A̶S̶L̶E̶Y̶S̶:̶ ̶1̶ (?)
̶B̶o̶t̶h̶ (and I called it):̶ ̶1̶
Genevieve advances. It'll be a battle across generations when Genevieve, Miss March 2015, takes on Cynthia Brimhall, Miss October 1985.
That seals up the first round in our "potpourri" Model Bracket. Sixteen started, eight remain. Here are the matchups in the second round, listed by first competitor alphabetically:
Cynthia BRIMHALL vs. Gia GENEVIEVE
Renae CRUZ vs. VICCA
Karla KENSINGTON vs. Heather KOZAR
Cori NADINE vs. Linda O'NEIL
Because the Model Bracket is a mishmosh, you can look at those matchups another way:
Playmate vs. Playmate
Pornstar vs. Pornstar
Nude Model vs. Playmate
Nude Model vs. Nude Model
Consider the starting numbers for categorizations versus what we have left:
Pornstars: Started with 9/2 remaining
Playmates: 3/3
Nude Models: 3/3
Dancers: 0/1
Most of the pornstars who got bumped from the Pornstar Bracket into the Model Bracket were lesser known, and that may have hurt them, especially against the ladies who had an appearance in the bunny mag to their credit.
It's notable that we also had four "foreign" ladies here:
Meridian, German porn
Susana Reche, Spanish TV dancer
Kelly Trump, German porn
Milly D'Abbraccio, Italian porn
None survived, which makes me think there was a little bit of a red, white & blue bias here, too. Vicca is Russian and beat Trump, but Vicca made her name after moving to America.
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5 years ago
In my opinion, it's up to the two of you.
She sounds like she's only willing to meet if you make it worth her time, but it also sounds like she knows that she might not be able to provide an ideal experience, so she's giving you the option to pass for now.
I'm not sure, from what you've said, if FS is still on the table for her at the moment. It sounds like you're willing to get your red wings, but not every woman likes to do it while that's going on, particularly in the first few days when the flow tends to be heavier.
Like I say, it's up to the two of you. If she's OK with it and you're OK with it, no big deal. If she doesn't want to and you feel like it wouldn't be worth your money without that part of the experience, then she's giving you the chance to back out. If she doesn't want to, but you still think you can get your money's worth doing other things with her, then go for it.
It's up to you.
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5 years ago
@Cash: ...
Yes, against the rules.
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5 years ago
So this one went a little bit one way, then a whole lot another way, then kind of bounced around a little. But we got a clear winner, that's for sure.
I will give one vote to Jane, as I feel like she'd be more interesting, fun and well known. Angelina is cute, but I'm not sure she's much more garden-variety when it comes time to get down to business. It's not making a difference, though.
ANGELINA: 17
JANE: 7
̶B̶o̶t̶h̶:̶ ̶1̶
Eva Angelina makes the case that maybe she should have gotten all those big-time lead roles by knocking off big-name Jesse Jane in the first round. Not necessarily a stunning result, but the dominance is a surprise. After that flurry of Angelinas, Jane never had a chance.
This is our last first-round matchup where the winner doesn't know their opponent yet. Angelina will get the victor of the Briana Banks/Madison Scott matchup coming up in a few days.
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5 years ago
Since we're talking about asking for LDKs, I'll repeat my favorite such story here.
Dancer at a club in Chicago. She claimed to have a masters in psychology; I have a friend who had an undergrad in it and I don't doubt from conversation she actually had the degree. Blonde, well-built, smart, real fun. Great conversation before great dances both of the first two times.
I wasn't aware the club was a nude club (you pay $5 more per dance) because no one I got dances with before had offered until she took her panties off one night for our second song, which was pretty hot. Unlike other dancers I've gotten nude dances from, though, she didn't back off on the grind. Also hot.
Second time I get dances from her, she's going to make it happen. I tell her to stop. "I don't want to make a mess of you." She was flattered, both that she was getting me there and that I stopped her.
A couple months later, I show up and it's her birthday. She has another dancer I've gotten dances with who's joined her for the night to help tell guys it's her birthday and get them to buy her drinks and do dances with the two of them. I'm don't usually go back with two girls, but I know them both, so I take them up.
She's a little drunk and tipsy, but she's excited to see me. We go back and she knows what I like, getting on her knees and using what she's got between her shoulders and belly button to get me worked up while her friend sticks her big'uns in my face. At one point, she looks up at me with the sexiest look: "You know that thing you didn't want to do the last time?"
"Yeah."
"I want you do to do it for me tonight."
Holy fuck. Psych degree, right?
I obliged, as she was very helpful.
Next time there, did a room with her where she let me put some fingers in a fun place, and she was real keen on seeing me outside, but I got the vibe she was seeing me as real-life boyfriend/marriage potential, as she mentioned introducing me to her friends and stuff. It was at that point I told her I had a SO and her attitude toward me changed real fast. She had a few words for me and left in an angry huff. Never saw her at the club again. I feel bad it didn't come up earlier and that I wasn't clearer in my intentions, but I feel like it was her own naivete that a guy with a SO would show up, too.
Still, her birthday night is still one of my top three club experiences. That was hot.
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5 years ago
Moreso than any other poll we've had, this one died on the vine. It got pushed down the board by a number of other topics and I think people lost track of it. So be it.
I'll give Zottoli one more vote. I know you guys aren't a big fan of fake ones, but I don't mind, and I love hers' shape.
ZOTTOLI: 13
SWANSON: 7
̶C̶l̶a̶i̶r̶e̶ ̶S̶I̶N̶C̶L̶A̶I̶R̶:̶ ̶2̶
̶L̶e̶n̶a̶ ̶S̶O̶D̶E̶R̶B̶E̶R̶G̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶G̶o̶o̶d̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶t̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶a̶g̶e̶m̶e̶n̶t̶:̶ ̶1̶
Zottoli emerges. She'll face the winner of the upcoming Lisa Boyle/Stacy Burke showdown.
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5 years ago
Here's what I know:
1. I've never had the chance to do it, but it's a bucket-list thing.
1a. What you're seeing here is from what I've read up on about it, in case I ever get the chance.
2. It's supposed to feel better for the guy because it's tighter.
2a. There's also something taboo about it, which supposedly makes it a little more fun, and a lot of women don't want to do it, so just the excitement of finding out she wants to do it is fun in and of itself.
3. Women describe it differently. Those who don't like it tend to say it feels like pooping in reverse. Some really like it and get very orgasmic from it as there are a lot of nerves down there. One article I read said a woman who did it after thinking she wouldn't like it found it empowering because she had to develop a different kind of muscle control to "allow" it in, meaning she got to decide both if it would or wouldn't happen and how deep it would go, which made her feel like she had achieved a new level of control over her body and her partner's sexual experience.
3a. Take 3. for what it's worth. Please always remember this: Don't be the asshole. If she doesn't want to do it, don't try to talk her into it, convince her or, God forbid, force it upon her without warning. Despite what you may see in porn, it's not for everyone, and probably not for a majority of women.
4. Because it's something you should decide you will do, it's more a decision you make in advance than something you probably decide to do spontaneously.
4a. It's really difficult for the average-sized guy with the average-assed woman without lube. Have some. Unlike her vagina, her ass doesn't have a natural lubrication method unless she has diarrhea, in which case, it's a poor choice to be as close as possible, and probing, her naked ass.
4b. Speaking of which, she poops from there, so she should probably do a pretty thorough cleaning beforehand. I'm not saying she needs an enema, but she's going to want to make sure everything's off the outside and maybe even try and get at least little bit of soapy washcloth in there as well. A shower or bath for her, before you decide to do it, isn't the worst idea.
4c. Because of 4b., you might want to consider whether going in uncovered is a good idea. I'm going to say probably not, if you want to avoid a UTI.
5. If you're dealing with a first-timer, you must go slow. You're trying to put something someplace usually tightly closed off; you can really cause a lot of pain, some real problems and some nasty infections for her if you rip some skin or her colon or perforate her intestines or whatever. You may want to try a finger first, again, slowly. Both she and her innards need figure out how to take it and adjust.
6. When you decide to exit, sliding out slow, rather than just yanking it out, is also supposed to be a big deal. If you ever feel like puking sometime, go look up prolapsed rectums, where the lower part of her insides get somewhat pulled out her bottom, so to speak. Don't do that to her.
It requires prep and is complicated, messy, delicate and risky in that it can expose her to a lot of pain and even injury. But, if you can pull it off, it's supposedly a kind of accomplishment, and if she knows what she's doing, it's supposed to feel really good.
I can't tell you for sure until I find someone willing to let me try, but that's what I hear.
discussion comment
5 years ago
It's nothing specific.
They go "bah-bah-bah" to give extra emphasis to what the music does.
Then they shout back "so good! so good! so good!" after "good times never feel so good." No reason other than to shout something three times to the beat.
English soccer songs are 100 times more interesting than most American sports chants.
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5 years ago
By the way, that long post didn't end this poll. Keep voting if you haven't.
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5 years ago
@heaving: First off, thanks, truly, for not bumping the previous thread. It helps keep people in line, so I appreciate your thoughtfulness.
This bracket is set and was seeded a long time ago; the 64 consist of the pictures you'll see if you go to the 'Pictures' section of my profile. I wasn't thinking bracket when I posted the pictures, but when I happened to stop at 64, and when the thread where I revealed the pictures proved popular, the idea came up and, well, here we are.
That said, though it's occasionally brought out a few cranky posts from guys who just don't like my taste in women, I'd consider doing it again in the future because each thread's had good traffic. "In the future" probably means this time next year, mind you. I might want some time off from the site as a whole when this gets done.
Yes, we may crowdsource suggestions when we get there. I'm envisioning a "second chance" for high-vote-getting first-round losers from this bracket, like Lisa Guerrero and Rachel Hunter. Also a thread where you guys make suggestions, which will surely have trolls and devolve, so I'll apply some editorial discretion. And so on.
I'll think about it when we get there, though, to be honest, we still have about two and a half months to go in this bracket. Honestly, I'll just be happy if we get through this one without either my SO or a co-worker seeing my spreadsheet or a voting thread on my computer or phone and saying, "What's that?"
If we get there, keep Lena in mind. I mean, I considered going truly vintage with the likes of Marilyn Monroe or Jayne Mansfield when picking pictures, but decided my pictures would probably be most appealing if I stuck to the 80's and onward. However, if there's enough interest in going that far back, I'd consider it.
Sinclair was the 2011 Playmate of the Year, though her relationship with the magazine is probably irreparably damaged after she revealed she was domestically abused by Hugh Hefner's son, Marston, multiple times while they were dating. In happier news, Sinclair fronted the burlesque show "Pin Up" at Las Vegas' Stratosphere from 2013-17. She also is very into cosplay and is a businesswoman, now owning her own small retro boutique hotel, charmingly called Clairebnb, that opened this year south of downtown Vegas. Here's a fun sampling of her work: https://xhamster.com/videos/claire-sinclair-12248555?pb=
I think she'll be a popular choice in the next bracket. She's a more-recent addition to my stable of "OK, I'm into her" ladies, whereas I went more for the classic standards this time. Next bracket, she's in.
I felt the need to change my avatar because having it be Brooke didn't seem fair heading into the Brooke/Michaels matchup. She was my top, outside-the-bracket choice.
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5 years ago
Bumping this so we don't get stuck on Brooke/Michaels.
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5 years ago
I didn't feel more or less safe at Coli than I did elsewhere. There were a few hoodrats hanging out outside the place, but Coli's driveway is nice and you don't get the sense you're in danger while your car is on the lot.
I made the trek down 8 Mile the one time I went there. I feel like if you don't actually go off 8 Mile and aren't driving a car that screams "rob me," which I don't, you're fine.
I just didn't like the vibe. Lots of TV screens, really loud music, next to nowhere to sit if you're there alone and the talent wasn't great. I though it was more of a "get the buddies together and go to a club to say you did" club than a monger club, at least on weekend nights.
discussion comment
5 years ago
The B-movie and Model Brackets are meant to expose you guys to some different names and realms of naked women.
If there's any site where guys might be into naked women, this should be it, no?
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5 years ago
@anthony6613: Kind of the way I feel.
Penthouse was the first extras club I ever visited, basically as a result of this site. As someone who wasn't very experienced, visits there helped me get that experience. Very valuable.
I still had a good time in my second-to-last trip there earlier this year. Brunette, very busty, very cute, very sweet, very talented, very open-minded and still able to do work in the booths. Hope to run into her again at another club at some point. But something was clearly wrong the last time I went. A special party the club had promoted and basically no talent in attendance. Not good.
I still think the whole thing is comical on the city's part. Stop one club. Not all, not something coordinated with other municipalities, just one. It's purely symbolic, not an actual end to what's happening.
Like I say, I'm hopeful we can get a beat on where dancers land, particularly if they're ones that were popular at PH (busty blondes K & D come to mind). I've never been a big Coli fan, as I tend to go on weekend nights and I don't care for the vibe there, but if that's where they are, so be it. Hopefully a lot land at Flight Club, where it seems like the old-school PH experience can still be had.
Never went to Trumpps; PH and Coli were the only 8 Mile Clubs I visited, and I'd argue Coli is a whole different part of town.
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5 years ago
This one was really close, so I made sure to double and triple-check the vote totals.
@twentyfive is going in as a 'Neither' based on interpretation, though he never explicitly made that clear.
@Clubber said Michaels upthread, then said he'd only truly pick Hayek, but we'll keep the original vote.
I'll toss one more vote Michaels' way to make this a little clearer.
It was a good battle, though it's important when they get this close for you guys to make it clear who you're picking, because it may make a difference in who moves on. All you have to do is throw in a couple carriage returns and make the last word of your post your vote. And we like to say the women we get dances from aren't always the brightest folks.
MICHAELS: 16
BROOKE: 13
NEITHER: 1
̶S̶e̶n̶s̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶J̶a̶n̶e̶:̶ ̶2̶
̶M̶i̶c̶h̶a̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶h̶a̶t̶e̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶g̶e̶:̶ ̶2̶
̶B̶o̶t̶h̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶M̶i̶c̶h̶a̶e̶l̶s̶'̶ ̶I̶M̶D̶B̶ ̶i̶n̶f̶o̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶M̶i̶c̶h̶a̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶l̶o̶v̶e̶:̶ ̶1̶
̶C̶l̶u̶b̶b̶e̶r̶ ̶b̶a̶c̶k̶t̶r̶a̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶:̶ ̶1̶
Michaels advances over Brooke, though this was the best matchup we've had yet.
Thirty total votes was second only to the Hayek/McCarthy matchup in terms of turnout. Brooke can make the case she was the most competitive non-advancer we've had yet. Her 13 votes is three more than either Dita Von Teese or Dillion Harper among those who didn't move on. Her 43.3 percent share is second only to Kitana Baker's, from our very first matchup, among non-advancers. But, only one can survive, and she's not the one.
If you thought this matchup was a fight, consider who Michaels draws in the next round: Jenna Jameson.