Comments by CTQWERTY (page 13)

It would help to contribute a few reviews for clubs you've visited. Members may have helpful knowledge for your particular region.

4 TUSCL reviews for Caddy's, none make it sound very appealing. Traffic east-west across GTA can be bad to very bad. I think most enthusiasts would be much happier at the airport clubs (northwest of the city) irregardless of whether they were interested in extras or not.

"The Paradise club was the scene of another stabbing in September and a shooting on Oct. 3." Doesn't exactly sound like 4 days/3 nights in Cabo!

Play some Bingo!?

Yes, but stop prior to the Rio Grande.

Okay, ladies: what defines a 'trim job'? Thanks. Down yonder, Troop.

VM, close. It was Henry the VIIIth North. I then left and went to Bogart's where they were up and going on all 3 stages when I walked in ... with no customers. Unfortunately I don't have anything memorable to report from that visit. Hard to believe I waited so long to ever visit Henry's South. It's certainly waaay better than Bogart's now. And the extra activity level in Henry's North is next to nil since the VIP room remodel. I'll have to try Henry's South on $10 day at the open -- and see whether there's anything special! Where's Sam been lately anyway? Watching Colombus Blue Jacket hockey?!? He used to post a lot more frequently.

May say something about the type of club I've been hanging at, but if they take note of an erection it's usually acknowledged with some sort of upsell for 'relief service'.

Well, I'm not so sure whether extras were a given with the gal, even at this notorious club. I could've spent $20 per on a couple of more songs and never gotten further. It just had that kind of feel to it. Yet it's memorable because it just kept going back and forth in Rhode Scholar fashion. Suburban Toronto is something. I fit the ideal target demo at one club and didn't do myself any favors sitting near where the dancers congregated. Might sound good, but I had a pack of four wading through slow-time at the club become fixated with me and wanting me to spend. Had I not gone off with a gal I might've gotten completely plucked! Canny, lol! Larry, that ought to work! My experience was a one-time occurrence -- have never had anything close since. Shadow you are verrrrry lucky!

We're usually late to the party, London. Someday folks will realize the national debt was $3.9 trillion before the fiscal crisis and now $14 trillion since. $10 trillion up and disappeared in the biggest heist in human history. And not a single person has gone to jail...

Bet that video will make the rounds on the internet a few times!

When's the fantasy league draft, Sam?

Way to take one for the team, Art! http://www.tuscl.net/d2.php?DID=1845 You had quite a Quentin (Tarrantino-esque) evening!

That be true for The Sundowner in Niagara Falls, ON., too. 2-3 massage parlors within a stone's throw of the (non-extras) club. And at the Missaugua/Brampton clubs, your car will receive several ad-type postcards for local parlors, I guess in case one managed to strikeout on the primary trip.

Yeah, 3am is a normal hookup time!

Pay up for a booth + annoying shot girls + hands-roaming dancers = Sounds like Detroit! You'll be wasting your time if you don't sit where you can tip the stage talent frequently. No better way to make a connection in the least amount of time. She may or may not come back, but at least she'll know you're interested.

"Grängstedt theorized that the young male may have been rebuffed due to a lack of experience, choosing both the wrong time and place to fulfill his lustful desires." He should've brought more cash, er fermented apples!

Well, $8k ain't $10k. Only then does the 'suitcase full of cash' come out.

Thanks for the link, Shadow. I had stopped looking at that thread. My apologies.

George, the opportunities in the Toronto clubs are there. The 'bleeding factor' experienced by a visitor due to club charges is much less than Detroit. The biggest negative in Toronto hands down is the terrible furniture -- but that's why one hires help to deal with it.

The Tea Party and Occupy Wall St. are both populist movements. If they ever get smart and unify then there will be change. Otherwise their efforts are marginalized by political leanings.

My preference, for what it's worth, has shifted. Toronto clubs have several advantages for everyone involved, except for maybe the club itself (?!?) Anyways, Toronto clubs have a flat $30 payout required of the dancer. No tip outs to bouncers, dj, house mom, etc. There is no bouncer keeping track of how many songs a dancer is in the VIP such that the club knows how much the dancer is making and what kind of a cut to expect. If a gal sells one lapper ($20), she's just about in the black for the night. Thereby dancers are incentivised because just about every dollar they gross they also net. It's all about negotiation and what the market will bear. Could that work against the buyer? Yes, but you can always be a tough negotiator and/or spend the money with someone else. I was able to get pretty far in Toronto quoting Detroit prices of $50/$100/$150. Which leads to ... Bouncing from club to club. With no cover, valet charge, VIP charge, or expected bouncer tips, the only expense at one club versus the next is the drink cost. Spend a half hour at a club and it sucks? You're only out the price of the drink (which are cheaper than what drinks cost in Detroit clubs). On the flip side, at the club for 3 hours and still on the same drink? There's no pressure to buy another in Toronto. Last month when I stopped in at Bogart's, within a half hour of arriving the bartender was on me to buy another eventhough I was only a third of the way into my first one. Perhaps the high pressure drink sales explains why there were almost no guys in the club at the time? So, spend for a passport and drive the three hours from Windsor to Toronto. You may even get a *cute guy* discount from a friendly Canadian gal like I did (never got one of those discounts at an American club! In fact, one American dancer replied "How about a beautiful girl markup?")

Art, soon the shoe will be on the other foot, no? Just remember Steve's sage advice: "bend the knees and lift with your legs." I might also add watch out for hustlers who take you behind fake palm plants!

Thought this thread (based on the title) was going to be about paying up for a VIP membership at a strip club. I recently wandered into a club which had such an option. Unbeknownst to me at the time it was just an elevated spot with plush leather couches and chairs with a great view of the stage (not closed off nor any signage restricting entry). If you know my complaints about crappy furniture at strip clubs then you'd know I was happy as a clam at this place ... until I got kicked out of the VIP. But what a show I bore witness to while I was there! 'The heads' were in the VIP that night with loads of alcohol, every stripper coming by to party, and several civilian gals partying too. Would be worth the $200 per year if I lived in town ...

Isn't that the jurisdiction with the renowned badass sheriff? HA! It is!!! (just did a Google search) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio