We have it good in Detroit (SE MI). Wait.....let me clarify that.

Yes, the economy sucks in Michigan, and particularly in Detroit. The old lady is coming back, slow, but sure. And yes, eventually, strip clubs will be restricted here. It's happened before, it will happen again. I've been clubbing here since the early 90's. Detroit had an election year back then and passed a law and the clubs almost died. The clubs came back. Detroit passed another law last year and everyone thought that was the end again. It didn't happen. Politicians are politicians. The clubs will survive. It's only one city, and the county of Wayne, where most of the clubs are most likely won't ever restrict things. So party on!!!!

Indeed, georgebailey. Unlike vincemichaels, I'm new to the Detroit scene. But if you can't find what you're looking for in metro Detroit, I'd venture a guess you can't find it anywhere. And at reasonable cost, too.

I'm from NC but I too will sing the praises of the Motor City. Great clubs, and to be honest, a great city that will definitely rise from the ashes. I always enjoy visiting there. Dreaming of Slow's BBQ right now....

Check out Union Woodshop in Clarkston, when you're here. Slows has a terrific edgy-ness, that's for sure. Woodshop has a better neighborhood (duh) and Kid Rock!

When you're in Detroit, try to spread the wealth among the SCs. You'll find they all have their attributes, but YMMV depending on the situation in that club. There are a few to avoid outright, but put together a list of your top five and rotate your action. I love Subi's and Hustler..... etc.

My preference, for what it's worth, has shifted. Toronto clubs have several advantages for everyone involved, except for maybe the club itself (?!?)

Anyways, Toronto clubs have a flat $30 payout required of the dancer. No tip outs to bouncers, dj, house mom, etc. There is no bouncer keeping track of how many songs a dancer is in the VIP such that the club knows how much the dancer is making and what kind of a cut to expect. If a gal sells one lapper ($20), she's just about in the black for the night. Thereby dancers are incentivised because just about every dollar they gross they also net. It's all about negotiation and what the market will bear. Could that work against the buyer? Yes, but you can always be a tough negotiator and/or spend the money with someone else. I was able to get pretty far in Toronto quoting Detroit prices of $50/$100/$150. Which leads to ...

Bouncing from club to club. With no cover, valet charge, VIP charge, or expected bouncer tips, the only expense at one club versus the next is the drink cost. Spend a half hour at a club and it sucks? You're only out the price of the drink (which are cheaper than what drinks cost in Detroit clubs). On the flip side, at the club for 3 hours and still on the same drink? There's no pressure to buy another in Toronto. Last month when I stopped in at Bogart's, within a half hour of arriving the bartender was on me to buy another eventhough I was only a third of the way into my first one. Perhaps the high pressure drink sales explains why there were almost no guys in the club at the time?

So, spend for a passport and drive the three hours from Windsor to Toronto. You may even get a *cute guy* discount from a friendly Canadian gal like I did (never got one of those discounts at an American club! In fact, one American dancer replied "How about a beautiful girl markup?")

Hey, good to know about Union Woodshop, I'll have to try it when I head Up North. Ribs and Kid Rock sounds like a winner.

S.E. Michigan Fun is why I've running north of the border for some time!

i grew up in Se Mi. i agree the clubas are great. But like everything else they have there up's & downs

Michigan is good?

Although I haven't been to Toronto, I fully agree with CT. Plus laws in Canada are more condusive to two consenting adults enjoying them selves. Don't have to worry about pinched during a crack down in an American club.

Hey CT, I'm not so sure Toronto sounds great based on the review you wrote. I mean the experience was great, until the dancer turned ROB. Toronto has a lot of clubs. I bet if they could get away with cover they would ask for it.

Detroit is better than Paris--but only for strip clubs.

George, the opportunities in the Toronto clubs are there. The 'bleeding factor' experienced by a visitor due to club charges is much less than Detroit. The biggest negative in Toronto hands down is the terrible furniture -- but that's why one hires help to deal with it.

@zorro,

Another guy who loves Slow's! I do, too. Surprisingly, it was a dancer from H8S that introduced me to Slow's over a year ago.

She introduced me to many other Southern Michigan delights during the week I spent with her. That woman was the jolliest drinking buddy (for a woman) that I have ever encountered. Other jolly moments were spent with her as well.

Not EVERY moment of my two year retirement was boring and miserable.

i thought the ordinance would destroy the clubs but so far they are all surviving, witch i think is great because it just means "business" as usual hehehe.

The churches are preparing to protest Detroit's lack of enforcement of the new laws. Stay tuned.

its just a never ending cycle with the church people, this will all blow over by tax season next year. November and December are dry months for me anyways.