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2 years ago
Definitely pushes my buttons, in an absolutely good way.
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2 years ago
@drewcareypnw: "Honestly the war has already been fought and lost on this."
Exactly this.
And to be frank, I'd have to change my name, but I'm not all that bothered by this. For one thing, it potentially shows me who's interested and who's not. For another, I don't know why they're on their phone. It *could* be random web surfing. Or it could be checking out the babysitter's camera, or catching up with parents, or texting customers to come in.
And since I have no problem approaching someone I think might be interesting, or has been interesting in the past, I won't hesitate to approach while they're on the phone. The vast majority of times I've done this, the dancer has put it away as soon as she saw my intent to talk to her. A few times I can remember them asking "let me finish this text." On very few occasions have they just kept going while I said hi, and ince I'm also not an arrogant jerk who thinks everyone should stop what they're doing and give me every iota of their attention, I'll just retreat after doing so. After all, it might actually be more important than me. And if it's not, oh well.
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2 years ago
If you're going to "rate" a dancer, try to give a reasonable description of what you think that rating means. For instance, 20 year old Angelina Jolie in Hackers is an 9, and 23ish Jolie in Gia was stroking 10 pretty hard. Heather Locklear in her prime was an absolute 10 for me.
If giant boobs make her a 10 for you, without regard for anything else, say that. If a giant ass is what it takes, say that.
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2 years ago
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@BigBlindEye: "Also the risk isn’t about a cop dressing up as a stripper undercover, there is quite literally the fact that if you tell a stripper about otc activities with another stripper or an escort, she can both use that against you, or against that dancer."
No shit, Sherlock.
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2 years ago
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@C.M.I: "Well, it's not valid, but it's why they won't just tell dancers what they want."
That's a fair point. I've opined before that I think, based on what I've observed, that regular TUSCL posters are not even close to representative of the majority of club-goers, with regard to extras seeking anyway, so for those people, I suppose I can see that. It does, however, surprise me that a few moment's thought on the subject wouldn't show how unlikely it is.
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2 years ago
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@ChampPhilly: "If suppose he randomly gives couple of names those are not dancing there anymore. There is no proof for someone verbally saying he dated someone. No proof at all."
Clueless AND no integrity. What a combo...
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2 years ago
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@Call.Me.Ishmael: "When I told her to "Just ask the question.", she said that many customers don't want to say what they want out loud for reasons ranging from shame, fear of LE, and wanting to keep the fantasy intact."
I get the shame, and maybe the fantasy, but the fear of LE doesn't make any traction with me. To me, the probability that a cop is going to undress for strangers in order to trap a john seems low, as in approaching zero, when it's much easier to simply rent a hotel room and do the sting there. In fact, while I've heard of plenty of undercovers propositioning dancers to get the club in trouble, especially since they can soak the club for way more vig than an individual, I've never once heard of a cop working as a stripper for the purpose of arresting customers. Note that last clause before you reply saying you've know copy strippers.
@ChampPhilly: "Rick, I do not think she is going to misuse that other OTC dancer info. May be trying find your class, did you date cheap ones or high value premium class ones.?"
You're as clueless as BigThirdEye. I wonder why that would be...?
@rick, my favorite response to that kind of question is "how would you feel if I told someone you don't know how I pay you to swallow my nut?"
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2 years ago
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You already made your decision, but if I'd been in that situation, with this much time between now and December 1st, I'd have made the same choice you did. Even at my advanced aged and weight, I'd be able to recover by the 30th, at the latest. 🤣
Now, if the time frame had been significantly shorter, I'd have likely gone with the regular.
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2 years ago
"Ultimately, another dancer in the club will quickly and happily take your money if you offer it."
And when others see it, the rest will likely follow in relatively short order.
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2 years ago
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@rickdugan: "Did I also mention that she's hot as fuck? I'm talking a legit 9. But she's also carrying some heavy duty baggage that is simmering just below the surface, which is why I've never pushed the OTC issue."
I *do* believe you. The 5'7" blonde I mentioned in the Strip Club Standards/Looks thread is similar. A legit 9, as you say, or maybe an 8 if you require C or bigger boobs, with *major* daddy issues. She hates him, and hates the way he treated her mother, but still wants his approval, which he'll never give her. Took the pandemic to induce her to call me and ask "can we talk over dinner?" Normally I would have just assumed she was playing me for a free meal, but she's hot enough, and the place she suggested was inexpensive enough, that I thought it was worth a shot. And *she* was the one who broached the subject of nakey time.
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2 years ago
I suppose my situation is somewhat atypical, but I can honestly not see anyone taking my ATF's place as "All Time Favorite." My own emotions surrounding that whole relationship, and the way it was ended, belike make that impossible.
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2 years ago
@wallanon: "Lucky you lol. I had to drop one because she was pissed off that I liked banging another dancer more than her."
Ah, but that was *you* dumping *her*. Would she have continued taking your money if you hadn't?
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2 years ago
@Call.Me.Ishmael: "More importantly, there are ways of making your point and continuing to have fun with the that dancer (probably)."
This. I can't remember ever having a dancer stop taking my money, or even lowering her level of service, after telling her, politely, that she doesn't control who I see.
@C.M.I: "If you start getting dances or OTC from a dancer consistently, then you need to set expectations early on. Let them know (politely) that you like and want variety. "
Yep. If I think I'm coming back to her, I'll eventually let her know that I'm a slut, and will get a dance from pretty much anyone who lets me play the way I want to.
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2 years ago
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@rickdugan: "The other one claimed to "miss our chats" (she hasn't worked in the club for a while), but I know she's not yet open for more."
I know that you're more than a little skeptical (and rightly so) about this sort of thing, and I also know that my experience with my ATF makes me a little *less* skeptical than I probably should be, but consider the possibility that she actually does miss your chats. And if she actually doesn't have *real* family to spend time with, it makes it a little more understandable. Still doesn't excuse bugging you during a time when you said not to, of course.
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2 years ago
You said it yourself, "man up". It's not gonna get any better until you do. Yes, you risk losing out on her, but when you put your foot down, she'll likely get over it.
Once had a girl say to me "I heard you cheated on me when I wasn't here."
So I said to her, "Am I the only dick you suck in here?"
Once had four girls in the same club I'd see regularly, both in and out. One day when they were all there at the same time and came up to me and said, "We got together and decided that it's ok for you to see all of us."
I said, "Good thing. I'd hate to have to give any of you up."
One of them smiled, because she'd known exactly what I was going to say. One almost looked offended, but not for long.
Had a girl at PT's come up one day and declare that I couldn't talk to another specific dancer anymore because they weren't friends anymore. I told her that was her issue, not mine, and if wanted to stop dancing for me because of it, I understood. She just looked at me for a minute and said, "OK." She did *not* stop taking my money.
So, as you said, "man up".
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2 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I got several "Happy Thanksgiving" messages, even one from an escort. Nobody *explicitly* talked about spending, but I suspect most of them were "hey, don't forget about me!"
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2 years ago
@drewcareypnw has outed himself. He's Dick Cheney!
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2 years ago
@Thick: "Frequent use of profanity and racial slurs is a sign of low IQ and lack of education."
Only because you decided to include the "racial slurs" part. Several studies have shown that people who curse a lot average more intelligent than those who curse less, or not at all.
Racial slurs are NOT profanity. They are in a subhuman class by themselves.
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2 years ago
@BTE: "Georg, what a crazy story, should have wrecked them, charging you with a baseball bat is enough"
You really are clueless, aren't you?
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2 years ago
Twice. First was stepping off the bus at Parris Island. Yikes!
Second was the time, which I've related before, I met a girl at a hotel, and she let her baseball bat armed boyfriend in before I could stop her. Fortunately, I wasn't yet undressed and had my 9mm jacketed hollow point seed dispenser right at hand.
Fortunately, they chose not to be implanted by those seeds and exited with alacrity. It could have gone much worse if they'd been stupid.
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2 years ago
One of the local clubs has such a day. Usually the day before Christmas Eve.
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2 years ago
Used to be a white dancer here who used that word all the time, along with the rest of her deep ghetto speech and mannerisms. I usually don't have an opinion one way or another one about what most people call "ghetto" speech, but she took it to extremes, like she was deliberately trying too hard.
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2 years ago
I'm nowhere near skinny or small, and *I* have been afraid of strippers breaking me on occasion. I've told this story before, but one time at Bottoms Up, where they had mostly armless chairs at rickety tables, a *very* large (larger than my 250+ lbs) AA dancer (Petra) walked up to me and slammed down on my legs. It *hurt*. And then she started spouting "I know you want some of this, don't you?" She must have taken my pain induced silence as assent because she proceeded to talk in a manner she no doubt thought of as sexy. When I regained my voice, I told her that no, I was not, in fact, interested, and to please get up. That's when she started getting pissy, claiming I was racist because she was black, that she'd danced for me and now I owed her, and refused to get up until I paid her. So *I* got up, and dumped her ass on the floor. Of course, she went to get the manager who, naturally, agreed with her. Fortunately, one of the other patrons backed up my story, and the manager backed down, however reluctantly.
She must have been badmouthing me in the back, because one of my regulars came out and asked me what I did. I explained, and she told me that Petra had pulled that nonsense before. Apparently I was the only one who ever dumped her on the floor. 😂😂😂
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2 years ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
@blahblahblah23: "Interesting. I have never heard of customers loaning strippers money until this thread."
I have never loaned a dancer money. I've *given* them lots, but never once with any expectation of them paying it back. 🤣🤣🤣
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2 years ago
Man o man, this thread is a graphic illustration of "different strokes for different folks", ain't it? And that's OK. I tend to be all over the map with regard to looks, but all of my favorites have had what I consider good personalities.
Many of you would have probably called my ATF fat, or at the very least "chunky". Because she was. Based on comments I've seen over the years, a fair number of you would have pegged her as a 6, if not lower. When she was dancing, she was smaller and trimmer, but she'd never been a spinner. And none of that had anything to do with why she was my ATF.
My current "sugar baby", on the other hand, *is* a spinner, even after two kids. I expect many, if not most, of you would exclaim, "butterface" if you saw her, and in fairness, before I got to know her so well, I might have agreed, but then again, maybe not; she's not even close to what I would call a true butterface. Now, I don't even notice.
Two of my other current favorites are true spinners, one almost too thin. No boobs to speak of, no ass worth mentioning. Both fun as hell, in and out of the sack.
I suspect a former favorite (she's still a favorite, but lives nowhere near me anymore) would have most of you drooling, wondering how a fat, ugly, old fart like me could pull her even with loads of cash. 5'7", blonde, perky B cups, beautiful shapely ass, skin both smooth and clear, long slim legs, and a lightly freckled beautiful face to launch ships in droves. Also orgasmic as hell. If someone built a "perfect" woman based on what I would choose as desirable physical characteristics, she would be it.
Another one who's moved away is a light-skinned AA girl with a definite womanly figure. Mom boobs from three kids, hips that are always moving, and a sly smile seemingly always on her face. I still have pictures of her, and she occasionally sends me updated ones. 😂
The MILF is lushly endowed in breast, ass and hips, with typically Latina features and skin. Approaching 40, she could still pass for mid to late 20s.
A few years back, there was a girl at Bottoms Up who was outright fat. Almost morbidly so. One of the funnest, and sexiest, woman dancing at that time, despite her size. It helped that she had no gag reflex, and could squeeze even my dick like a vice.
So while there's considerable variety, they all are pretty adept at convincingly pretending to like me.