Cell phones at work

You'll never win the battle to keep customer cell phones off the floor. Just like nice restaurants, movie theaters, and <insert venue of choice> the person with customer status is going to get away with a ton of rude behavior because that's whose dollar is being chased.

As far as your less savvy colleagues at the club are concerned, let them be stupid and lazy. It gives you first pick of all the gentleman with little competition. I suspect that at some point the more aware dancers will realize you consistently make more than they do and ask you what your secret is. Maybe you could charge them a consultant fee to "mentor" them?

Honestly the war has already been fought and lost on this. At this point I’m happy as long they’re not on their phones while they’re giving me a lap-dance.

I was in a club that had a strict no phones policy for customers. What I saw as a bit overboard. A guy pulled out his phone sitting at stage side. A bounder immediately came over and grabbed his phone out of his hand. The bouncer kept a burly hand on the guy's shoulder so he could not stand up while the manager and another bouncer bent through his phone. I would guess to see if he had taken any pictures. I guess the concept of "recent" had not dawned on them. They went through photos for several minutes. The guys said he was just reading a message from work. Then the manager put the phone back in the PL's shirt pocket and the bouncers walked him out the door.

The only time I take my phone into a club is when the temperature gets so hot that it will kill my battery if left in the car.

As a counterpoint I prefer it when a dancer is sitting alone playing on her phone. I am far more likely to approach her that way. I wish more dancers did it.

Dancers onphones, ignoring customers is a mystery to me. Any one walking into a strip club is just about guaranteed to have $100 to give to the club. Minimum, $10 to the tip rail, $10 to drinks and tip to barkeep,$10 to the cover, $50 to $70 to a dancer.

Personally, if I haven't been greeted and chatted up by the time I'm 1/2 way down my first beer, I'm probably going to cut my losses and move on as soon as the beer is done. Maybe sooner as I did at DR in Cocoa Beach last week...another story...

I'll bring my monger phone in to a club just in case. But, it's there in case a sweet lady wants to share her number with me. Otherwise, it stays in my pocket. Way more interesting things to look at than my phone. If I'm so bored with whats happening in the club that I'm taking my phone out, I need to be taking my butt outta the club.

I don’t think you can win this with either but I do go on my phone if I don’t get any attention from dancers. It’s my way of keeping my self busy. I have gone to clubs with $500 plus cash to spent and walked out do to this exact reason. It’s either will spend or money saved.

The war is over, cell phones won, best you can hope for is whatever girls you chose doesn't pull out her cell phone while she's with you, I usually lose interest in dancers that can't pay attention to me. As far as customers on cell phones that's generally an age driven thing, the younger ones seem to do this, older guys generally aren't so antsy, that they need stimulation every three seconds.

===> "Honestly the war has already been fought and lost on this."

This IMHO. Nowadays I doubt that most customers or dancers would tolerate a strict no phone policy. In most areas there are other clubs to spend and dance at. There may be isolated clubs here and there that can still get away with it, but I suspect that they are few and far between.

To be fair, cell phones in almost any business are quite annoying.

When I shop for groceries, I know what I want and I’m on a mission to get in, get what I want, and get out. I hate it when an emasculated male is standing in front of 50 choices of bread and is too pussywhipped to make a decision so he’s on his phone, blocking the entire aisle, calling his S/O, “help me, help me, I don’t know what bread to buy”. (Cuz in the back of his mind if he brings home the Sunbeam instead of the King’s Hawaiian he knows he ain’t getting a BJ tonight)

Both from a business standpoint as well as socially, ubiquitous cell phone use in public has taken us down a notch as humans. Being honest though, I admit to sometimes over using mine in recent years and I agree with others that I don’t think things will ever change back.

The situation with girls on phones ultimately fixed itself, as those girls won't get/keep customers, and the girls who keep their eye in the prize will be the ones getting customers' cash. Some girls just don't get it....similar to the girls who hide in the DR, then complain they didn't make much money.

As far as customers with phones.....I've seen plenty of cases with guys blatantly recording, yet it takes a bold dancer to confront them, and then risking loss of cash/repeat business.

Just as with many activities, please are glued to their phones rather than being in the moment and enjoying the current activity. Not sure why someone would go to a club just to be glued to thei phone.

@drewcareypnw: "Honestly the war has already been fought and lost on this."

Exactly this.

And to be frank, I'd have to change my name, but I'm not all that bothered by this. For one thing, it potentially shows me who's interested and who's not. For another, I don't know why they're on their phone. It *could* be random web surfing. Or it could be checking out the babysitter's camera, or catching up with parents, or texting customers to come in.

And since I have no problem approaching someone I think might be interesting, or has been interesting in the past, I won't hesitate to approach while they're on the phone. The vast majority of times I've done this, the dancer has put it away as soon as she saw my intent to talk to her. A few times I can remember them asking "let me finish this text." On very few occasions have they just kept going while I said hi, and ince I'm also not an arrogant jerk who thinks everyone should stop what they're doing and give me every iota of their attention, I'll just retreat after doing so. After all, it might actually be more important than me. And if it's not, oh well.

I can't say shit, guy fucking around on his cellphone, that is so me it's not even funny

Patrons buried in their phone while sitting at the stage, or while sitting at a bar with a stage behind it, are just rude. You don't have to fake-swoon over a dancer you're not interested in, but there's no reason to so openly telegraph your disinterest. OTOH, no phone policies are dumb. Sometime, real life demands that you check in for messages. Gotta believe that PLs trying to sneak pics of the entertainers is a rare occurrence. If I'm travelling, it's likely I took an Uber to the club, and I can't leave the phone in the hotel for the evening, just in case something urgent comes up at work or home

Motorhead: Guess I'm "emasculated", but if I thought getting a BJ, or not, hinges on purchasing the right brand of bread, you can be damn sure I'm making the call home. But, I always make room for more manly customers to get past my cart in the aisle

Some of the clubs I go to including Chicas in Las Vegas have a strict “no dancer phones on the floor” policy. Wish they all had that policy.

The short version of this is that for me it's fine the way it is. Most girls are happy to get off their phone when I indicate interest, most clubs do a decent job keeping obvious photography to a minimum, in the rare cases where a girl is too focused on her phone, chances are even without it she'd be a dud so I'm not gonna fret about it.

If a club told me as a customer no phone, I'm leaving. I get and support a no photos policy, and I'd be amenable to any restriction on things that look like taking pictures. But if I can't read and respond to text messages while I'm there, I'm not staying. And frankly, I do browse around at other shit when there's nothing on stage I'm interested in. I wouldn't sit at the tip rail and do that, but sitting at the bar or a table, its seems fine to me. I put my phone down when a dancer approaches, unless its a text message that can't wait a minute for me to at least great her and then excuse myself for a moment and complete the task.

As far as dancers, count me in the "no longer care" camp. It can still get out of hand when the club looks like the first dance in middle school with all the boys on one side and the girls on the other. But if that's the case there's bigger issues at the club anyway. In all the clubs I go to, there's always a few girls on their phones. Some are texting, some are obviously posting on socials or whatever. I'm less likely to shy away from approaching a stripper on her phone than I am to shy away from a dancer actively talking to her friends or certainly another customer. I also gotta mention that I'm sometimes texting the stripper you're seeing buried in your phone, I wouldn't support measures to prevent her from getting back to me.

I do wish dancers/bartenders/managers/etc would be a little more careful about including customers in their pictures/videos on socials though. On a few occasions I've had to say something, luckily in every case so far they've been cool about deleting and letting me get out of the frame for a re-shoot, but I'd rather not have to be on-guard.

Cell phones at the gym make me want to attack the users....cell phones at the club? Don't care.

There are clubs around here that limit cell phone use by the dancers on the floor. I don't know if it's a spelled-out policy, but I've seen managers tell dancers to cut it out or take it to the dressing room. That seems to be less enforced on slow shifts.

I don't use my phone a lot in the club, but I like having it there in case I need to trade numbers with a dancer or show her something interesting/funny on my phone. I've also seen a few guys on TUSCL in the club, which I find amusing. All that being said, the customers bring the money so I think the club has to be careful about which rules the apply to customers. The guy watching porn while sitting in a strip club?... that's taking multi-tasking a bit too far, in my opinion, but it doesn't affect me.

If I see a dancer I like with her face in her phone, I walk up to her and ask something like "Hey, can I interrupt or are you busy?" 90% of the time they put their phone away and invite me to join them. A couple of times they've said something like "Can you give me a minute to finish sending this message? After that, I'm all yours." Which also works. I've found that guys who get spun up over dancers sitting with their phones are the same guys who insist that dancers approach them. For me, bored hot dancer on her phone is more of an opportunity than an annoyance.

Skittles. Then that's more customers for you right? You should never worry about what other girls do at the club. Youre there for yourself and your bag.

As far as girls on phones go. It doesn't bother me. I have girls texting me from work asking for advice and and what to do. Plus a lot of girls post selfies on social media trying to lure customers. And arrange for regulars to come. Some will tell regulars how slow the night is and ask them to cashapp some money. They're working. It's easier than working the club a lot of times.

The regulars cashapp money? Sounds more like losers, not regulars. That likely isn’t the norm.

If they shouldnt worry about what other girls do at the club, they shouldn’t care about whether other girls are providing better service or extras

Be happy that other dancers have their noses stuck deep into their phones, gives you more potential to make money while they waste their time.

"The regulars cashapp money? Sounds more like losers, not regulars. That likely isn’t the norm."

It's more common than you think. I personally don't do it, but know guys who do. It's basically a cam model set up where it's easier to go and see/touch the real live girl.

That probably sounded "creepy" lol. Sorry to break it to you, but the whole industry has the ick factor. The diehards are desensitized to it, but we're aware we still get judged by indulging in the hobby. The dirty secret nobody wants to talk about is literally any guy who has the means and figures out there's unlimited sexy time all around him is going to sample. It's just going to happen if he can overcome his programming.

But to be on topic, I don't care about phones as much as I used to. One of my favorite dancers (and friend) was obsessed with Pokemon Go for a couple of years. At some point I became ok with talking to her forehead and she started spending less time catching monsters. We eventually met in the middle lol. But I think we're all square now, because she patiently waited one night as I spent half an hour trying to get a work thing done on my phone.

If I am chatting with a dancer and there is a lull in the conversation and she sits there waiting for conversation to resume, she gets paid. If she starts with the cellphone every second she's spent with me ends up being a waste of her time.

I remember around 2009 or so, just before the advent of the iPhone and real internet replacing the mobile internet, places still thought they could ban phones. Clubs had "no cell phone' warnings posted and refineries/plants would had policies prohibiting cameraphones (this was when you could still get Nextels with 2-way radio and no camera). By 2010, these rules at clubs and facilities remained, but no one enforced them. I'd walk into any club or plant with my business Blackberry Pearl and my personal Windows Phone on belt clips in plain view (before that went out of style, LOL).

Now, texting by dancers and customers means nothing. If I see a dancer on her phone, I can always interrupt if I want a dance from her. If I don't want a dance and she is on her phone, then what do I care? This is our society now.

I can't really knock lazy strippers since the one I had as a free FWB was the kind to sit with a guy who wasn't spending for an hour if she found him hot.

End of the day girls are free to hustle or not. I prefer the independent contractor model over employees.

A lot of girls only come in to service their regulars. I've seen girls come in, get dressed, meet their whale, take care of him for an hour, then leave after him.

I have battled Pokémon while on stage before at one club. The time that happened, the deadweights actually became slightly less of a deadweight because they started tipping me once they realized what I was doing. I give my undivided attention to club customers who are worth it though.

If they think you're worth it they'll give you the time of day. Yall can't brag about being cheap and act surprised they don't give you attention

This is common. I see a lot of strippers playing on their phones and ignoring the customers. The only time I look at my phone is. When I'm checking the time

Some dancers don’t want to approach customers. Or if the club isn’t very busy i have seen dancers approach a few customers, and if nobody buys a dance, they will go on their phones. It doesn’t hurt anybody besides the dancer or customer themselves, so i see no logic behind why cell phone usage should ever be restricted for dancers or customers.

Icee your post is hilarious, as some dancers approach customers and go on their phones while waiting to go on stage or new customers to come in. Of course in your world this never happens because every dancer is perfect and beautiful, and every customer is desperate and ugly and would never turn down a dancer.

I could care less about dancers on their phones.
Im not into every dancer, and every dancer is not going to be interested in every customer.

I think I was unclear. I don't mind customers bringing cell phones to the club, but when he/she decides to move up to the stage and a dancer is doing her set, it's most respectful to put the cell phone down. Unlike the customer I noticed watching porn on his cell while I was preforming. Customers are expected to have their phones. That was not my issue. Sorry if I was unclear y'all

There are a variety of reasons why a dancer may be on her phone at work. It's not always trying to communicate with a significant other. Some girls will read their online homework if it's slow at work, watch home security footage while at work, post on or read through Reddit, manage or edit content, try to call in a customer or two, dealing with a family emergency, etc.

I fuck around on Reddit a lot, edit photos, and play PokemonGo if I'm bored.

As a fellow dancer, OP, I've found it best concern oneself less with what other girls are doing and focus on your own bag. All the time in giving concern to the action of others is time that could be better spent making money from the customers being ignored.

I would agree that it's a bit much for a customer to be at the tip rail, on his phone for any extended period. A quick read/reply to a message, not great but okay. Anything more than that, get up and sit elsewhere for a bit. That doesn't count if the stage is behind the bar though. In those cases I consider that sitting at the bar, not sitting at the stage.

Coincidentally enough, I stopped by a club yesterday evening after dropping off the last of visiting family at the airport. While giving me a dance, the dancer reached for her phone and used it for about a minute. I didn't stop right then and there, I let it go one more song. In hindsight I regret it. While she had my version of a nearly perfect body, she was a complete waste of time & money. The worst part is I lost an opportunity with another dancer who was just slightly less hot, but clearly much more fun.

I'd also say dancers playing on their phone on stage is something that would make me much less likely to spend on that dancer. I'm almost certainly not gonna tip a dancer on her phone on stage, I'm probably not going to engage with her if she approaches, which means I'm not gonna buy dances. I'm also not going to approach her if she's sitting alone later. Of course, if she's super hot I might ignore my own advice, but its much less likely.

As a custy, my phone stays in the car. It NEVER comes into the club with me - too much risk. Also as a custy, if a dancer is on her phone I’m not going to interrupt her. She may or may not have a legitimate need to be there, but either way, I’m going to respect her implied need for privacy.

That being said, regardless of where I am, if someone is on the phone and I’m (reasonably) expecting to be the focus of their attention, I take the hint and send them on their way. Conversely, if I’m talking to you I’m not on the phone, and the thing is either face down on the table or in my pocket. You’re my focus.

The dancers staring at their phones on the floor is at least better than them hiding out in the dressing room. There have been numerous times I have approached a girl looking at her phone and asked for lap dances, but I can't go back to the dressing room and ask them.

There have been a few occasions where dancers have used their phones as a conversation aid. One time a dancer told me she was an artist and pulled out her phone and showed me photos of some of her paintings. I've also had dancers show me photos of their children, their pet dog being given a birthday cake and the flowers and vegetables being grown in their garden.

I like going out without my phone, because of my job it's one of the few times in my life I don't have a phone or a computer in front of me.
As far as dancers with their phones, that's fine. Yes, some girls overdo it but if she wants to sit there half naked while I stare at her ass for free, I don't have a problem with that. One time I was in a club and it was completely dead, and a girl who was *on stage* pulled out her phone while she was dancing which I thought was very funny.

It's tough to be out there performing for a dead or disinterested room.

Customers get squirmy, too. I made incidental eye contact with the same customer about three times in about 20 minutes because only three dancers were dressed and the one he wanted wasn't budging from my table. Even after I asked about it. He played it off with the I'm on my phone but for a little while, but eventually took off.

After the fact I found out one of the other dancers was a bouncy young party girl I'd heard about, and would've been totally fine meeting her while waiting for the one I was with to get back lol.

Clubs I go to don't allow customers to be on their phones at the stage. They'll ask you to put it away. Although what I'm seeing more of is girls letting guys record them tweaking for a tip.

I'm on my phone if the club is boring. Just have a few drinks. Text and watch YouTube videos and go home. I never used to. But sometimes talent at clubs is really that bad now.

I was at a local club with a steady dollar parade (Hitching Post in Paterson NJ). The dollar parade has been mentioned in several reviews.

I don’t have an issue with the dollar parade, as I am happy to pay to see some booty.

I noticed a guy who would tip certain dancers - but with other dancers he would act as though he was interested in his phone. The dancers didn’t take the hint - and they would just stand there waiting. I could see he wasn't happy with them standing and waiting - so he would keep staring at his phone and say “Go away!” after a few minutes.

It was the first time that I noticed this type of interaction - with a customer. It was unusual - and I was surprised the dancers didn’t just move on (until he told them to go away).

Wallanon were you saying customers cashapp money as some sort of p4p arrangement?
I was responding to icees post where he claimed dancers ask people to cashapp them free money if it’s a slow night at the club.

I was recently at a well known club with the bartenders constantly on their phones taking selfies and shit. Annoying as fuck.

"It was the first time that I noticed this type of interaction - with a customer. It was unusual - and I was surprised the dancers didn’t just move on (until he told them to go away)."

This is an issue with the clubs that allow the tip walk. It's easy to say don't go if you can't afford to tip all the girls, but I've been to Johnny A's and they're throwing girls on stage like 5 or more at a time on a dayshift. That's a lot of tips to dish out. I was only there for a little over 30 minutes and burned through a lot of cash, but luckily most of it was on dances getting cut a lil short.

I'm not embarrassed to say there are some clubs I used to avoid because I didn't feel like burning through tip walk dollars before my throwaway cash caught up with my appetites. In a lot of those clubs you have guys there for asap dances to dodge the tip walk or there to tip and not do dances.

Using his phone as a shield against tipping is pretty funny, and then pulling a "go away" is doubling down on that. I'm surprised the club was ok with that based on the vibe I got, but then again I was only there long to enough to kick the tires. Maybe he's a known quantity who spends big but only when he feels like it.

I think it's reasonable for clubs to prohibit customers from taking out their phones. But, hello, then you need to put a clock or two on the damn wall, as many people (me among them) use their phones to know what time it is.

As to dancers using their phones, that's a labor-management issue. It's a rare stripper that doesn't have dead times at work. It´s kinda of a form of torture, to make her sit there with no way to pass the time. I think it's crossing into the rapey zone when you don't accept that strippers pick and choose who they dance for, no explanations needed. When a dancer I like doesn´t role up on me, I assume it may be because she saw/heard that I'm handsy, and she's just not down for that.

MY ATF (TUSCL gridget) gave me a watch for Christmas back in 2007. The only time I wear it is when I go to strip clubs because there are no clocks and I don't want to take my cell phone into the club to prevent it from getting lost, stolen or damaged. But I do understand that some customers need to have their phone with them at all times for work or family reasons. The only time I take my
phone in is if the outside temperature is so hot that it could kill my cell battery. It did happen to me once.

I did take it in one other time at Follies. A favorite girl was Ok with giving me her photo but she wanted me to use my own phone rather than hers. Maybe she was sharing her phone with her BF and didn't want him to see what she was doing.

I’ve never entered a SC not intending to spend.money. I have left without spending however. At my regular club I even know who I’m going to spend on. Some girls basically blow it. The phone is a major culprit why. Someone said on here if they are by them self they are easier to approach. I let them approach 95% of the time. Since I’m not white I get that out of the way upfront I’m not approaching a girl who isn’t cool with that. If she approaches I know she’s just after the green and I’m cool with that.

Possible reasons she doesn't roll up on you:
1. She's in a funk, but had to work that shift or she'd get fined.
2. She got a string of nos, perhaps some of them snippy, and it got her in a funk.
3. She's only in the mood to work PLs she already knows and is OK with.
4. Something about your appearance or demeanor, rightly or wrongly, makes her think you'd be more trouble than you're worth.

My club doesn't allow dancers to have phones on the floor. I think it's a good rule especially with younger dancers because it keeps the dancers focused on working and talking to customers, and it also prevents any potential privacy issues because no one will be taking selfies or pictures with customers in the background. We also enforce the "no phones out to take photos" rule for customers very well, so everyone behaves.

They work off their phones

Totally agree if you are a customer sitting at stage when a dancer is doing her set, it's disrespectful to be glued to your phone, especially if you aren't tipping either.

Having said that, there are a ton of useful purposes a customer can use a cell phone in a club for. Even for watching porn - but with a dancer. This is in fact a routine I have with one favorite dancer. We have a drink and watch a bj video before we go for a private dance. I show her what I like and she puts it to practice.... she has become exceptionally good.

Hmm bringing a BJ video to your extras fav. I guess that's like bringing a picture from a magazine to your hair stylist.

@wld4tatas
I had some customers do that. They would take me to a private booth where they'd be watching porn while getting to touch a real girl (me) at the same time. I'd get turned on watching it with the customer while enjoying the fondling and the physical attention.

Watching porn with any customer while in the private dance area is awesome but I was referring to an unknown guy at the stage not tipping me and watching porn!

Well fuck, I would have hated to work at any clubs you ran because I stayed glued to the phone cuz fuck these assholes lmao :) Idk I still made money, but yeah coulda made more if I was as outgoing as when I first started.

Yeah, I've also had customers be on their phone while at my stage which is fucking annoying. I have also seen customers like literally filming girls without permission a number of times. Sometimes though it is ok and they still tip well so idk I take it with a good attitude. I don't get mad if they are on their phone at my stage. I would get mad if they have the nerve to be at my stage then either not tip or tip the minimum and expect a lot out of me lol! A lot of dudes that stay glued to their phone still tip well on the stage. They might be a drug dealer doing their bs and still throwing quite a bit on stage, or they might be a professional career man texting about work bullshit or their crazy wife while still tipping quite well at the stage. Whatever lol. It is what it is.

Sorry, just reread what I typed above. I meant that it is never ok to film girls to be clear. I meant that sometimes it is fine if they stay glued to their phones.


Also, I've never seen custies watch porn at the club. I would feel very disrespected if some jackass was doing that on my stage especially. Like oops I knocked over a drink on you, I'm sooooo clumsy!!!!!!

For me, a girl buried in her phone doesn't want to be approached, so I don't. A girl who checks it every now and then might be open to talk, so I might approach. Of course, I'm one of those weirdos who likes it when dancers come up to him, so what do I know?

Customers on their phones while sitting at the stage (assuming someone is dancing on said stage) is nuts. Anywhere else is fine so long as no recording rules are broken. If you're not going to pay attention to the dancer then why sit at the stage? And why would someone come to a club, sit at a stage where someone is dancing, and watch porn instead?

A lot of responses and still enough room for a unique take. If you are at a club where many girls are on thier cellphones and not paying attention to customers, find a new one. Girls who arent hustling on the floor probably won't provide you a great experience in the LD Room. However, if you see a smoke show on HER cellphone walk over and ask for a dance or if you can buy her a drink. Girls shouldn't have to pester guys in a club. Some guys just come to watch the game in the presence of beautiful women without talking or a dance.

On the flip side if a club has a problem with customers on their cellphones its most likely a quality of girl and dancer issues. I dont care what is on the TV or my phone if a 8 or above walks past im giving her my undivided attention

This kind of behavior was around before cell phones. Dancers would sit together talking instead of approaching customers.