The black-dicap
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Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
I was talking with a black fav recently about how many customers, including black customers, have zero interest in getting a dance from a black dancer. She estimates it's 30 - 40% of customers. Does that sound right?
Before your stereotypes run amok, she is quiet, mild-tempered, graduated early from HS, and is looking at a career in allied health.
Before your stereotypes run amok, she is quiet, mild-tempered, graduated early from HS, and is looking at a career in allied health.
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I suspect that this is very club and region dependent.
I prefer young, cute, petite, girl next door, white dancers.
2nd choice is young, cute, petite, girl next door, black dancers.
I'm an admitted chocoholic.
She's medium build, except DDD bra-size. Her breasts might be on the soft side for some, but they are not flabby like overweight women have. She's not a gym rat, more the 60s Marilyn Monroe type curvy, which totally works for my boomer ass. She feels top heavy, wants a bigger butt, and thinks she'll get a breast reduction when she stops dancing. She's already tried the fat transfer to the butt surgery, talks about another go at it. I offered to be her fat donor. So one day, I'd be sitting at the tip rail, and when somebody said "dat azzz..." I could say "actually that used to be my fat".
If I am in a club and all I can see are Papi Chulo style dancers regardless of their race I am just turning around and leaving.
Me personally, I don't care either way. Hot is hot. I do think there is something to black girls tending to preferred less though. It's reflected in prices. It's common for the black girls in predominantly white clubs to be slightly under market for what I perceive as their level of hotness. I can only assume that's as a result of their decreased demand. But it also could be a result of body types/cultural preferences. The thicker more popular black girls may be over market price, but I don't fuck with them so I don't know.
I tend to agree with what the dancer in the OP said - on avg it does seem like black dancers in mixed clubs on avg are less popular and/or have to work harder at selling dances and many black dancers have similar stories to the one in the OP - this may not apply yo every club or city but I think it's fairly common.
Rich black rappers and athletes often seem to hook up with white chicks.
It's racist to not be attracted to another race if your reasoning for it is racist.
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
The undeniable crude reality is that in Racist America, men in general have been raised/educated/brainwashed/etc, etc,etc to rate black women 20% less attractive.
“Just the term ‘black women’ conjures up thoughts of an overweight, dark-skinned, loud, poorly educated person with gold teeth yelling at somebody in public.
I hope that doesn’t make me racist but honestly that’s the 1st thing I think of.”
~ American male in the USA.
“Black women” who have “white woman” physical traits are the only “black women” he is attracted to.
This mean mixed race women like Halle Berry, Rihanna, Nicole Murphy, etc, etc, etc.
Remember White supremacy is the root of all race-related issues in the USA.
While individual white people are not to blame for policies/beliefs that began before they were born, we are still benefiting from these policies at the expense of Red, Black and Brown Americans and indigenous people of color in other countries around the world.”
She sat with me later and I talked to her. She said they were racists. I was surprised, to me they just seemed cheap. But I can see now that likely she was right.
People need experience seeing the women of other races as objects of sexual attraction. This is one of the reasons we have strip clubs.
SJG
Right, like the state of black on Asian violence in New York. Use your fucking head.
It's all white supremacy in the tiny little progressive mind.
I'm not saying that white people are better in the USA and the world.
I'm saying that in the USA and the world, being white is clearly better...as a product of white supremacy, which was facilitated by centuries of domination attained through occupation and economic exploitation of indigenous people of color.
Who could even argue?
Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”
And then Harry Truman put Omar Bradley, "the enlisted man's general", in charge of veterans affairs. But Bradley was enforcing segregation laws in the hospitals to the letter. And then when black troops were being discharged they were being driven out into the middle of no where, pushed off the back or a truck, and often beat up.
Truman, who had served with some distinction in the trenches of WWI, was infuriated by this.
So on July 26, 1948, he signed an order to desegregate the armed service and veteran's affairs.
But the result of this was Strom Thurmond's State's Rights Campaign, which was based entirely on White Supremacy.
Though Thurmond would lose to Truman in a 4 way race, when Thurmond, a life long Democrat, returned to major party politics he was now a Republican.
White southern Democrats had been conservatives, but they were still part of Franklin Roosevelt's coalition. Thurmond was the first move to break it up.
It is not that the electorate has moved to the Right, its that a group of conservatives, driven by white supremacy, sifted their party affiliation. So this brought in Nixon and Reagan, and race is still the underlayment of our politics.
It is why we are the only industrialized country in the world which does not have Universal Health Care. It used to be that South Africa was the second. But now the US stands alone.
https://www.amazon.com/Dog-Whistle-Polit…
SJG
No matter how pc people on here may be, there is a general preference for the "standard of beauty" in western culture that caters to white women. It's just facts. It's changing gradually, but it's still the way it is. If I were dark skinned and actually looked black, I'd make less money.
“This country was founded by a group of slave owners who wanted to be.
Am I right? A group of slave owners who wanted to be free!
So they killed a lot of white English people in order to continue owning their black African people, so they could wipe out the rest of the red Indian people, in order to move west and steal the rest of the land from the brown Mexican people, giving them a place to take off and drop their nuclear weapons on the yellow Japanese people.
You know what the motto for this country ought to be?
'You give us a color, we'll wipe it out.'"
~ George Carlin
~ American stand-up comedian, actor, philosopher, author, and social critic.
~ Born: May 12, 1937 Manhattan, New York, U.S.
~ Died: June 22, 2008 Santa Monica, California, U.S.
John C. Calhoun gave his Southern Address in 1836, declaring that slavery was a positive virtue, and being the fist to suggest secession. He said, "I can load hitch up my wagon and load up my slave, and no government has the right to stop me." So he is nullifying the Free Constitutions which about half of the states had. He was putting slave ownership above the US Constitution. He was making slave ownership into a natural right.
And the Confederacy stated their intent to conquer Mexico, Central America, South American, and the Caribbean, and to make a slave worked empire. And this was all completely based on White Supremacy.
This has not gone away, it is just spoken to in coded language.
SJG
The debts of slavery were paid on the battlefields of Gettysburg, Chancellorsville, and Antietam.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something like his White Privilege and status in society when his White Privileged and his status in society depends upon his not understanding it."
Try again, numbnuts.
SJG
If he had come out for emancipation day one, the confederacy would have outlasted us.
Leaders do not have the luxury of moral purity.
White privilege is nothing more than working hard and relying on one's self. Like Doctor Ben Carson.
If blacks were genetically inferior, or racial discrimination was the dominant force, we would not see Nigerian and Ghanaian Americans more prosperous than white people. They value education and bust their asses.
I dated a black woman from Kenya who admitted to holding African-Americans in contempt because they have all this opportunity in America and don't take full advantage of it.
If I wanted to destroy a race, I would tell them they were powerless to systems they could not control, and had to rely on the majority group's handouts to prop them up. Who does that sound like?
White privilege is nothing more than working hard and relying on one's self. Like Doctor Ben Carson."
Pilgrims did own slaves, genius. And Ben Carson is an idiot.
The belief favors the maintenance and defense of white power and privilege.
White supremacy has roots in the now-discredited doctrine of scientific racism, and was a key justification for British colonialism and American Imperialism.
It underlies a spectrum of contemporary movements including neo-Confederates, neo-Nazism and Christian Identity.
And what's the other half? Because I'm half black and half white and still benefit from white privilege, especially in dancing because it is so blatant there.
The biggest privilege I had was being raised in a loving two-parent household that instilled the values of hard work and respect.
LBJ did a great deal to extend equality and inclusion to afro-americans. His stuff did not go far enough, but he was vastly better than Nixon, who got into office using the racism of white Southerners to get them to vote for a Republican.
In the 1950's there were several small recessions and there was a move in the South to mechanized agriculture and away from share cropping. This drove zillions of blacks into the norther cities, looking for employment with little preparation, and at the same time that automation was trimming down factory employment.
What creates poverty is social marginalization.
Far more whites receive welfare than blacks.
SJG
LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act but it was not without cost. The family structure was intact before the Great Society.
If your theory about a massive black migration north in the 50s held true, the south would have more, not less, racial equality.
Why? Racist attitudes are often unconscious.
For those who have achieved the ability to acknowledge that racism exists, we suggest three ways to begin changing attitudes about “race”— curiosity, courage, and building intimate relationships with people who are different from yourself.
These 3 behaviors can help illuminate and address your unconscious racist attitudes.”
~ Ebony Dennis, PsyD
SJG
Gnostic Christianity and the meaning of the Jesus Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl3p8zEp…
Anyway I think a lot of customers are really weird about black women, especially the ones that do not look mixed. I see over and over where customers will pick flabby or just unattractive in general women of the lighter races over an unambiguous black girl who has an amazing body.
I do think some of it is not racism and preferences, but I also think a lot of it is racism too. I've heard the most disgusting things said about black women at times either in clubs or outside the clubs from pretty much every race of man. I also think that media perception and how black women are stereotyped has to do with it. THen you have some of these dudes mlyeet the trashiest/ghettoest ratchet black bitch and they assume all black women are like that.
On the other hand I do not ever notice racism in clubs against latinas or asians, but i know people with disagree with me. I have personally never seen it though.
Globalization is a form of colonialism...”
Intractable conflicts are found in many areas that were once colonized by Western Europeans in Africa, the Balkans, Southeast Asia and America.
Most of these conflicts are large and complex, especially those concerning boundaries, ethnic rivalry, the uneven distribution of resources, human-rights violations, and lack of good governance can be found at the heart of protracted problems.
The best example of this is the United States were past imperialist policies continue to have this effect; ethnic rivalry, the uneven distribution of resources, human-rights violations, and lack of good governance.
For this reason, it is vital that those wishing to transform or resolve protracted conflict, acknowledge the past, and take into account the effects past imperialist policies continue to have on today's post British-Colonial and American-Imperialist societies.
SJG
The decline of the black American family is documented, with the inflection point at the Great Society time.
Recently enjoyed several dances from a very cool black dancer, we had a great time.
She was from the mid-west so we actually had something in common, she was awesome to talk to.
I have also turned away dancers of all persuasions, because they were loud, obnoxious, fake, obvious drug habits, drunk, etc...
The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution (1868) granted African Americans the rights of citizenship.
However, this did not always translate into the ability to vote.
Black voters were systematically turned away from state polling places.
To combat this problem, Congress passed the Fifteenth Amendment in 1870. It says:
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Yet states still found ways to circumvent the Constitution and prevent blacks from voting.
Poll taxes, literacy tests, fraud and intimidation all turned African Americans away from the polls.
Until the Supreme Court struck it down in 1915, many states used the "grandfather clause " to keep descendents of slaves out of elections.
The clause said you could not vote unless your grandfather had voted -- an impossibility for most people whose ancestors were slaves.
This unfair treatment was debated on the street, in the Congress and in the press.
A full fifty years after the Fifteenth Amendment passed, black Americans still found it difficult to vote, especially in the South.
“What a Colored Man Should Do to Vote", lists many of the barriers African American voters faced.
The fight for African American suffrage raged on for decades. In the 1930s one Georgia man described the situation this way:
"Do you know I've never voted in my life, never been able to exercise my right as a citizen because of the poll tax? ... I can't pay a poll tax, can't have a voice in my own government."
Many brave and impassioned Americans protested, marched, were arrested and even died working toward voting equality.
In 1963 and 1964, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. brought hundreds of black people to the courthouse in Selma, Alabama to register.
When they were turned away, Dr. King organized and led protests that finally turned the tide of American political opinion.
In 1964 the Twenty-fourth Amendment prohibited the use of poll taxes.
In 1965, the Voting Rights Act directed the Attorney General to enforce the right to vote for African Americans.
The 1965 Voting Rights Act created a significant change in the status of African Americans throughout the South.
Southern states used to disenfranchise blacks during the Jim Crow era of laws enforcing racial segregation between the late 1800s through 1965.
The Voting Rights Act prohibited the states from using literacy tests and other methods of excluding African Americans from voting.
Prior to this, only an estimated twenty-three percent of voting-age blacks were registered nationally, but by 1969 the number had jumped to sixty-one percent.
Today and in the future more and more Americans, no matter their color, race or ethnicity will continue making the world a better place to be, with less places suffering with the pain of injustice, suffering with the pain of oppression and the USA and the world will be transformed into a place where enjoying freedom and justice will be the norm for all...
Changes have been happening in America for a long time and more changes are coming whether you like it or not...
The change is minorities realizing they can't eat diversity, and questioning their loyalty to the Democratic party.
Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it, who does it neither where or when it is done.
Both political parties serve the interests of the rich and powerful; corporate robber barons and politicians, who have become rich through ruthless and unscrupulous business practices.”
The USA is a nation in which income inequality has existed from the beginning, a situation that hurts many more people than it helps.
The USA was created for the benefit of a few Englishmen that wanted to be Opulent...
“Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests, and to balance and check the other.
They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority.”
~ James Madison, Jr.
~ “The Father of the Constitution"
~ the fourth president of the United States from 1809 to 1817, expansionist, philosopher.
~ Born: March 16, 1751 - Port Conway, Virginia, British America
~ Died: June 28, 1836 (aged 85) Montpelier, Virginia, U.S.
I’ve noticed a lot of black dancers definitely have outgoing personalities, and pretty knowledgeable about clubs and like to club hop a lot and travel to different areas. (So naturally, I like talking to them because of that) Also a lot of them have side hustles, I’ve bought outfits and lip gloss before off somebody pitching what they have to offer in the club. I guess it’s a survival of the fittest thing going on though.
I noticed one very attractive (to me) black women at the club who had that slim/thick build. She would never approach the black men who came in the club. She would go after older white guys and young white guys in groups. One day, I approached her and got into a conversation. She said she assumed that because this Rhino had a majority of women who weren't black that the black men who came in were not looking for her. Digging a little deeper, she admitted she moved from an all-black club because some guys there (her words) "treated her like shit." I just listened. From then on, every time I came in, she would seek me out to talk. Don't think I ever danced with her but we had a lot of conversations. We are all just the sum total of our experiences. And one size does not fit all.
It's a big read and I'm not totally on board with everything it says, but the point I'd like to make is the personal story of clyde Ross as he moved south to north during that time.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/arc…
Ross has an interesting story. You'll note that unlike others on this thread I don't deny that "white privilege" in some form exists, only that it isn't the driving force in American society. It's comical to suggest that our attitudes towards 13% of the population controls our destiny. This is a relatively new concept from people with a lot of money to gain from racial divisions.
Booker T. Washington identified these people in his time.
"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."
It is in the DNA of The United States of America.
Remember the USA was created by British, who to this day is one of the most racist countries/societies in human history.
Who is most racist the mother, England or the USA?
"discrimination in the United States permeates all aspects of life and extends to all communities of color”
I’d do an Eskimo girl if she was a cutie.
If anything that biases me towards AA and Latina dancers.
Francis Fox-Piven
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006ZA…
The early days of the Great Society were wrong to make welfare only available to single women.
SJG
Stanley Clarke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW7a1rTI…
TJ Street
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9620…
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=4149
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=8868
SJG
Clapton, Beware of Darkness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRoo0-hw…
And if by swirl you mean grinding, I am in agreement with you. LDKing in pathetic.
SJG
SJG
SJG
In-group/out-group behavior is seen among every higher species that I am aware of.
Therefore the only way to end it is to merge us all into one race.
But no, you still can't control how people think and how they conduct their personal lives.
SJG
Strippers are paid to indulge the forbidden parts of a primal drive. Hence some of the dancer horror stories around here when it gets extreme.
And that's where the original topic, dancer discrimination comes into play. You have a variety of dancers, and you're not going to pay for the attention of someone you don't find attractive. Unfortunately yes, men as a whole regard black women as less attractive than other races. But you're not going to change the desires of many men.
There was a study on it. White/black/Latin/Asian men and women were asked to rate the attractiveness of the other. On the whole, black women were the least desired. All groups of women showed a tendency towards men of their own race, except for a lot of Asian women preferring white men.
YOU from all people should be well aware that a large number of the American people, you included, seem to be a homogeneous group of ignorant, racists who blindly and eagerly support the un-progressive economic and colonialist/imperialist policies of their government:
Imperialism, genocide, sanctions, war, discrimination, racism, exploitation, etc etc etc, perpetrated by the so-called one percent of Americans...
But be respected and appreciated, judged by the content of their unique individual character and individual behavior.
Chill skibum609, Chill!"
~ Greta Tintin Eleonora Ernman Thunberg
~ Born: 3rd January 2003 , Sweden
~ Occupation: Student, environmental activist
:D
But when I worked in Miami a blk dancer made a reference to the reason why I got so many dances is because I was thin. So I’m well aware I’m in that fine middle where I’m small enough for one type of man but also curvy enough for another.
Of course races, ethnicities usually like their own because that is what they are used to. Like I know 9 out of 10 if an African man comes in a club he won’t want to be bothered with a non black woman
CJ, your tongue needs to live rent free in Greta's puss. I can tell you both need it.
@Bharlem at probably about half of US strip clubs, they have a quota on black dancers, and try to discourage black customers from coming. But there are black guys who go to those clubs anyway, because they prefer white dancers. But some black dancers still prefer to dance at these clubs. I'd assume that, at least for them, the $ is better. What some black dancers have told me basically is that they feel like they get worse bigotry from black customers for being a stripper than from white customers for being black.
Racism is a fact of life in American society.
And it's far from just a black white thing
https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/califor…
There may or not be racism in that environment but I would only call it racism if I didn’t get hired because of my skin color. Because that is the true definition of racism. Power to keep a group away from resources
But I do know there is a lot of domestication when it comes to what one finds attractive but let’s talk probabilities
I go into a room full of black people what are the odds that I will get picked before a white person.. now
Let me go into a room full of white people what are my chances of getting picked. Like I said and I am very pro black but it will ease my plate to think mathematically than emotionally
Racism combined with Sexism In the USA and the world Shortchange Black Women,
Black women face unfair expectations, unique challenges, and biased assumptions
Black is Beautiful is a cultural movement that was started in the United States in the 1960s by African Americans.
Black is beautiful got its roots from the Négritude movement of the 1930s. Negritude argued for the importance of a Pan-African racial identity among people of African descent worldwide.
It aims to dispel the racist notion that black people's natural features such as skin color, facial features and hair are inherently ugly.
The movement also encouraged men and women to stop trying to eliminate African-identified traits by and attempting to lighten or bleach their skin.
This movement began in an effort to counteract the racist notion in American culture that features typical of Blacks were less attractive or desirable than those of Whites.
The idea of blackness being ugly is highly damaging to the psyche of African Americans, manifesting itself as internalized racism.
This idea made its way into black communities themselves and led to practices such as paper bag parties: social events which discriminated against dark-skinned African Americans by only admitting lighter-skinned individuals.
And yes, strip clubs are subversive and that is the best part about them, and about their women.
SJG
Frampton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVCWaWFm…