Strippers with guns.
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
This afternoon I saw a dancer come into the club and waved to me on her way to the dressing room. I had gotten dances from her in the past and even did 1 VIP with her that was good enough for me to think about doing another one with her today. Then a few minutes later I saw her leave the club. Aw shit! But then a few minutes later she came back in and after changing into her stripper clothes she came right over to me. She explained that she had accidently brought her gun into the club and had to take it back out to her car.
I can't remember any other dancer telling me that she owned a gun. I guess I can understand why women and especially strippers would want the protection. I assume she must have a clean record in order to qualify for a permit. I had previously put her on my list of possible OTC candidates but now find myself having second thoughts.
We did do a great VIP.
I can't remember any other dancer telling me that she owned a gun. I guess I can understand why women and especially strippers would want the protection. I assume she must have a clean record in order to qualify for a permit. I had previously put her on my list of possible OTC candidates but now find myself having second thoughts.
We did do a great VIP.
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Dancers who carry a gun are no more dangerous to see OTC than any other P4P partner. I am a lot less concerned about the risk of being accidentally shot by an OTC date carrying a gun for self protection than I am about a P4P partner setting me up to be robbed by a pimp or boyfriend who has a gun. As long as you choose your P4P partners carefully the risk of violence is minimal.
That being said, if you know she is carrying don't let her get wasted drunk or let her snort lines of coke back at your place. Of course, I wouldn't be doing OTC with someone like that anyways if I were trying to stay safe.
In my experience, the (many) people who prefer to be strapped whenever they can, legally or illegally, generally hope they never have to pull their gun. I do worry about it very much.
I have seen customers with guns in clubs a few times. Twice in the Dallas area, once in Huntsville and once in of all places Follies. Follies had a metal detector that never worked and the door girl giving a half-assed pat down. That was day shift. Night shift they had a swat team in body armor.
In all cases these were concealed guns that I noticed. Clothes get disarrayed from lap dancing, etc. One was an ankle holster. I'm sure there have been others I have not noticed.
You should have asked about her gun and offered to get her a nice holster so she can have it “undercover”.
A stripper gun carrier will prepared to defend themselves and others (you) in the event of a dangerous situation.
As long as she has the training and practice she will be able to respond fast and effectively to OTC situations that may arise.
Now if she was a total drugged out shitshow I would not even be there to begin with. But I can understand if thats really the issue. Crazy bitches can have knives too tho.
I rather my girl have one and be safe instead of being a lick. Atlanta is a wild city now.
However, I would rather not be around an armed stripper. Strippers do not always make the best decisions, and drugs and alcohol don't help. A CF asked me to teach her how to shoot, but I always put her off because I did not want her waving a gun around me.
Seems like I've seen reviews where the author mentions sneaking a piece past the pat-down in an ankle holster.
Basically, the whole fucking point of pistols is to make it easy to be strapped while you go about other things. Canada has low gun crime cause they make it relatively easy to get a long gun, but like pulling teeth to get a pistol. But, in any case, poor judgement + cars kills and maims more than poor judgement + guns. We couldn't take automobiles away from all the people with questionable judgment, it would shut down the economy. I hear strippers talk about so and so driving with a suspended license all the time. And now they're going to make people wear masks and get a jab lol.
I keep one handgun in my car the other in my home both in fingerprint enabled lock boxes and the Berreta is kept in a locke gun safe, I haven’t felt the need to be armed in quite some time, and many places that I go it is illegal to carry, so rather than look for trouble it’s easy for me to access my handguns , I can’t speak to most of the country but it is illegal here in Florida to sit at a bar and drink when armed.
“Hey Drew, want to go to bar X tonight?”
“Sure, but isn’t that in the shit-goes-sideways-fast neighborhood?”
“Yeah Drew, but we could strap up first and then get drunk… what could possibly go wrong?”
“We sure could. But I think I’m going to stay home and watch re-runs of Friends instead, have fun!”
So i guess by the same reasoning if a dancer does feel the need to carry to hang out with my harmless ass, we can’t hang out. Probably another reason why I’m not a good fit for otc.
I'm licensed to concealed carry but don't want the responsibility (I know I'm not John Wick), and don't hang out in bad areas.
Haven’t been to a shooting range in years. I think I’ll go at some point soon 😋
I'm wondering where you live?
Here in the supposed liberal lala land of Seattle, License is only required for concealed carry. And, to get that license you are fingerprinted and a background check looks for felonies or (I assume?) domestic violence charges or just convictions (likely only convictions).
I'm aware many places have more requirement for concealed carry licenses. But I'm only aware of NY and CA that restrictions beyond concealed carry, i.e. as long as it's in your trunk anything goes if you aren't a felon.
In NJ you first need an FID (Firearms ID card). To get it you do the fingerprinting, background check, mental health history check, provide two references who WILL be contacted and need to vouch for you. Also required to give your employer information, and they will contact the employer informing them you're applying for an FID. If you prefer to keep it private, THEY DON'T CARE. So good luck on that raise or promotion if your boss is a liberal anti-gun person.
Once you have your FID card you can purchase long guns (rifle/shotgun) but you need a separate purchase permit for each and every HANDGUN you will ever buy. When you first apply for the FID, you can get a purchase permit at the same time, but after that you go through the whole process over again, except for fingerprints which remain on file.
As far as concealed carry, it is all but impossible in NJ. You either have to be a cop, a judge, or a politician. Other than that, you can only get one if you demonstrate a "justifiable need" but that's not realistic. You could get robbed 10 times, shot 5 times, stabbed twice, and receive written and verbal threats that "We're gonna kill you next time you step out onto the sidewalk" and you still won't get a carry permit in NJ. You'd pretty much have to be dead to prove your need is "justified."
Other than INSIDE your home or place of business you can only put a gun (of any kind) into your car if you're going to the range or moving. Needs to be unloaded and in a locked case, then put in your trunk or the far back section of an SUV, and ammo must be in a separate container. Also you have to go STRAIGHT to your destination. Supposedly you're allowed "reasonable deviation" from your route, but that is a very grey area. If I went to pick up my buddy for a day at the range and got pulled over a few miles off course, it would be up to the cop. If he arrests me then a jury will have the final say.
Also, any failure to follow all the administrative and arbitrary gun laws in NJ (the above is just a small sample) is a felony "gun crime." You don't have to use the gun to commit an actual crime like robbing someone - it could be something like accidentally forgetting to snap the padlock shut on your gun case before it goes into your trunk.
That said, the jackass Governor Murphy is up for re-election in a few days. Part of his platform is "strengthening" NJ's weak gun control laws.
I've been to poor countries where a military-grade rifle was easier to get than a nice TV. But people were generally chill, I never felt nervous about all the guns. Like they say, guns don't kill people, ricks kill people.
Lol. I didn't decide - was born here and haven't managed to get out yet. Slowly nearing retirement though!
Good to keep in mind, if you've got $ to go to strip clubs regularly, you've probably had better breaks in life than the average stripper. Like they say, walk a mile in someone's shoes before judging.
That’s not to say one shouldn’t be choosy about who one sees. But that’s true in a general sense, not because I know she owns a gun.
Pretty-much describes me – I have never owned a gun; have never even fired-one; have never even held one on in my hand – I’d heard too-many stories of people accidentally being harmed by them or them being used w/ bad-consequences “in the heat of the moment”. In the last year or two I’ve thought about finally owning a gun but I tend to procrastinate about most things.
w.r.t. a dancer owning a gun; being as impulsive as many are; and a good # just batshit-crazy; I rather not have a strapped stripper around me – and as a guy, and a “depraved strip-club goer”, she’d likely get the benefit of the doubt being a woman and you being a perv that pays women for sex – all she’d had to do is say “he tried to rape me; it was self-defense”; and decent-chance she’d get away w/ it.
Having said this it’d likely wouldn’t be a no-go but I’d be uncomfortable and would ask her not to have it around me.
I have a concealed pistol permit. You have to be fingerprinted and undergo a background check in Michigan. The process is now pretty easy if you have a clean record.
Yeah, just wait. Michigan will be the next to adopt NJ laws and Ted Nugent will move to Arizona.
I guess I’m the only guy who thought - thats fucking hot! If a hot dancer strutted on stage with a pistol stuck in her g string - that would make me very hard! I’d ask her to describe her weapon - the smooth cold steel shaft - the thickness of the barrel, how the trigger feels when her finger presses against it… I’m getting hard just typing these descriptions!
I've gone shooting stuff with dancers and they did just fine
I didn't insinuate that "they" are junkie hookers. I don't even know who "they" are. I was using "a" hypothetical junkie hooker as an example of someone I'd rather have handling a gun than you. That's your inability to comprehend basic concepts talking.
SJG
For self-defense in a bar or something, I think I'd prefer a switch blade anyway, I'd be too worried about hitting a bystander with a gun. If the MAGA people keep going in the direction of doing Hitler/KKK-type stuff to non-white people, then I'll have to get a gun and do my best to stop it. I'm an old man anyway, may as well go out standing up for what's right. But I wonder if it wouldn't work better to get a good sized truck and just run over as many of them as possible before they take you out. @nicespice you were talking about volunteering, this would be a good way lol.
@ilbbaicnl You dumb fuck. Please don't ever buy a gun because you don't know shit.
Um okay Batman. LOL.
Go save Jussie.
This is a good example of why I don’t hang out with strapped people that I don’t know well and know to be safety conscious. It is very easy to make a permanent mistake with a gun.
The first part of that question really informs the ignorance of the second part of that question. I mean, gun safety all by itself isn't quantum mechanics, but when it comes to the split-second decisions of a self-defense situations, there is *a lot* that you need to know and think about before you point a gun at someone, at least if you don't want that situation to go horribly sideways. And then there's a different set of training to cover how to operate a gun in a highly stressful and fast moving conflict without losing control of the gun, shooting yourself, or shooting an innocent bystander.
"For self-defense in a bar or something, I think I'd prefer a switch blade anyway"
While that makes it harder (but not impossible...) to hurt a bystander, using a knife in self defense is a learned skill. And if you don't have that skill, and your opponents decides to not be afraid of your knife, then there's a pretty good chance that it's not going to go well for you.
"But I wonder if it wouldn't work better to get a good sized truck and just run over as many of them as possible before they take you out."
Oh, now I understand. You're a moron.
I know how to shoot based on a lot of experience, but I've never had to defend myself with a gun and I hope I never have to. Because the moment you pull a gun, you're making the decision to kill someone (shooting someone in the leg or shoulder is great on TV, but it's bullshit in real life). For the vast majority of men and women, if you're going into standard environments where you think you might need to defend yourself, then it's much smarter and safer to have some pepper spray, mace, or those incognito knuckle dusters. If you lack good training, then it's more likely that your gun or knife will wind up causing you more harm than your attacker.
That's why I'm not nervous about a stripper owning a gun just because she's a stripper. I'd be nervous because the vast majority of people who own a gun for "self defense" don't know sweet fuck all about using a gun for self defense. But as far as OTC is concerned ... if you're the sort of guy who might do something that'll get you shot by a stripper, then there's a pretty good chance that you deserve to be shot by a stripper.
A truer thing has never been said. Remember how Barnaby Jones always shot 'em in the shoulder like every single time? If that was reality, he'd have been dead by the 2nd episode.
Haha, CMI and I agree on something again? Take another picture!
Please quit this conversation, you're embarrassing yourself.
You know, inexperienced guys with this attitude towards carpentry wind up with the nickname "Stubby".
I could write about 10 pages on how stupid you sound, but instead I'll just say that SJG seems more intelligent to me than you do at the moment.
Agree with you bro, but no more shots okay? Time to switch to beer.
But it's been a solid minute since you've done some pot stirring, so we were about due.
My gut feeling? I'm with @jackslash that strippers aren't known for being calm, rational, decision-makers and that drugs & alcohol make the situation worse. I probably wouldn't want to be around an armed stripper. That goes for SBs, too.
“strippers aren't known for being calm, rational, decision-makers and that drugs & alcohol make the situation worse”. Exactly! strippers + guns…. What could go wrong? Hahaha
Women in general are sweet and fun around me. You guys sound like you're used to crack where's when they're going through withdrawal.