Kind of sux that i have to remind you all that i dont consider myself a democrat..and that i consider myself a moderate or an independent , doesnt it?.. I guess it reinforces your polarized mind set as it proves that youre only capable of categorizing people into two boxes such as left or right?
But honestly liberals who wont stfu about getting onto trumps case for children being seperate annoy me big time..like i do not condone trumps policy , and yes he deserves blame for it and that policy should have NEVER BEEN THERE. If you disagree idk idk whats wrong with u?
BUT HOW ARE THESE LIBERALS ONLY BLAMING TRUMP AND NOT THE PARENTS WHO STILL MIGRATED AND TOOK THE RISK TO COME HERE, THEREFORE CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR OWN KIDS BEING SEPERATED?? LOL.
btw, i understand why maybe a minority of families might have done that..to escpape a dire economic situation etc...but i still dont get how the parents are getting ZERO blame bc they should have gone to another hispanic country such as mexico or even another city in their own country to escape , as opposed to america which is much farther away , especially if coming to the US would mean they might have like less than 1% of actually being admitted together as a family.
^^Hey, dick-licker, if you’re going to troll at least be funny, not a colossal embarrassment that makes even your boyfriend cringe. And for PETA’s sake, quit fucking your dog in the ass.
I tend to categorize people into two main groups. Those with nice female titties and those without female titties. People who identify as having female titties do not count unless they actually have the DNA to support their claim. Other than that, I could care less what side of the political fence you fall on. If you have female titties, then you have my attention. No female titties and my attention shall wander.
I actually agree with the post. That’s why many like Trump on this issue. Deep down he personally may or may not be for the hardline no exceptions stance he is taking, but in order to secure the borders with all these super bleeding heart libs he has no choice but to take that stance so the end result winds up a compromise. Keep in mind many of these illegals purposely come here to have children so they figure that even if they wind up separated their child, who by definition is a Citizen, has a chance at a better life. I can’t blame them, but at the same time many know the potential consequences of their actions.
Ps - Dear ICE we need a thinning of the Cuban stripper herd in Florida.
Well the term Liberal is ambiguous. In most other countries Liberal means something more like Lassies Faire. Liberal means someone who is pro-unregulated business, pro dismantlement of traditional society.
Mostly as I know, in the US, Liberal was used with Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern, 1968 and 1972, the opposition to Nixon and people who it was hoped would end the war in Vietnam. Also it generally meant people who were pro-Civil Rights.
I strongly support this kind of Liberal thinking.
In 1988 Liberal was made into a dirty word, by Pat Robertson at the Republican Convention.
So now were here more about Progressives. Probably a better term.
I myself am a Radical Leftist. We have to change, we have to get beyond thinking which runs around things like the Work Ethic. We have to mitigate the Middle-Class Family because all it does is exploit children. We have to get to Social Democracy. We can't use the Mental Health System and Learning Disability Labels just because we won't have jobs for people. We can't use wars, or wars on drugs, or wars on immigrants just to create jobs and eat up resource surpluses.
And we can't run an economy for the stock market, when we are wreaking environmental disasters while failing to meet the most basic needs of some of our most vulnerable.
SJG
After the swimming pool stuff; check out the girl playing the electric mandolin! I guess she is wearing a flapper dress, unhindered by a bra. Like her big tits. Looks rather tall. And I love the full thighs. Anyone know who she is? Would not be easy to assemble a group of musicians who could play this so well, so much like the original recording. But I really like that one girl. My tastes have changed, post marriage.
The way I look at it, both extremes of the political spectrum are all about control. Personally, I feel that freedom and liberty is what brought this country to be such a great place. The US has freed more people and brought more people out of poverty than any other country in history....and in just a couple of hundred years.
SJG will jump in here now and talk about how that's bullshit.
But look at all of the other forms of government throughout history....they end up giving a few people power over everyone else. Here, though it's waning with more and more government regulation, each and every person has the ability to work themselves up from the bottom, develop the better mousetrap and make themselves rich.
By comparison, look at what the great plans of government control of production have done to the people of the USSR, China, Cuba and now Venezuela. You end up with the same thing.....the government fucks up and those on the bottom pay with their lives. Oh....but in the US the wealthy elite have too much power.....it's the same shit in those countries. Do the high ups in the communist governments live like the little people or are they too special to have to suffer? Castro, the man of the people with his stupid uniform was worth billions when he died.....where was the redistribution of wealth there?
Now listen for the argument.....socialism/communism/democratic socialism hasn't been done right yet but we new smart people know how to tell everyone else how to live!!!!
Prim0, we have a huge underclass, people living with little to nothing and nothing in the way of job security, and often trading careers for junk jobs.
No one wants to tell anyone else how to live, except maybe that they have to pay higher taxes on large incomes and asset holdings. A very small imposition considering how people at the bottom have been forced to live.
Liberalism is what America is about, going back to the Revolution, wanting to replace a King on the other side of the ocean, with local democracy. And Liberalism continues in freeing slaves and in putting some limits on monopolies, and in setting up progressive taxation so that our economy keeps on running.
You people listen to Right Wing Nonsense News, and no wonder your views are so strange.
Progressives is probably a better term, or just Leftists. But the electorate in this country has never gone that far.
Today though most people are highly influenced by Right Wing Disinformation Web Sites. So unless they really are, leftists, not much point in talking to them. Their entire world view has been shaped by stuff which has no relation to reality.
Nicole wrote, "BUT HOW ARE THESE LIBERALS ONLY BLAMING TRUMP AND NOT THE PARENTS WHO STILL MIGRATED AND TOOK THE RISK TO COME HERE, THEREFORE CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR OWN KIDS BEING SEPERATED?? LOL."
Nicole, our law does not allow indefinite detention. People have to either be charged and arraigned, or released, its like within one week or something like that. And at that arraignment the judge will have to sign off on the legitimacy of the charges. Minor child traveling with parents, crossing border, that is crime? I don't think so.
Most countries don't do stuff like this. And we did not either. Don't want to fill up our jails with people from other countries. Makes no sense. Makes the problems worse.
And then the refugees are fleeing from some pretty bad situations, like what has come about in Honduras after the US deposed its elected President.
Things would have to be pretty bad for people to abandon what every they may have had, and their entire support network, and then walk 1000 miles to an uncertain future.
Being a refugee running away from a right wing shithole with a gov propped up by the US doesn't merit having your kids put in a cage and being thrown in a concentration camp.
Whats another term for radical leftist? Lazy, useless, impotent, pussy. Caging criminals aanimals is standard procedure for criminals and animals ruinning loose. What is another term for progressive? Anal wart. The country is drowning under a deluge of useless, dead weight emigrating here and combining with the useless garbage we have been breeding for the last two generations and it is time for a real civil war.
So, Iceyloco and Nicole1994 both stop posting at the same time, both are gone for a month, and both reappear at the same time. I am sure it is just a coincidence. I sure enjoyed the last month though.
Our laws do not allow for indefinite detention. People have to charged and arraigned, or released within definite time limits. And if the court will not sign off on the charges, they have to be released.
Has anyone been released from these detention centers, and released where, and what is their status now?
19 States, D.C. File Suit Over Trump Administration’s Rules That Would Allow Immigrant Children To Be Held Indefinitely https://khn.org/morning-breako…
Brits are feeling squeezed because they just don't get it. Same as the people who voted for Trump here, and same as Skibum our geriatric senile-suicidal.
Fuck the EU. Bunch of sleazy socialist leeches, sucking on the teat of the American taxpayer. Let Russia overrun them. They can dfend themselves with some fucking lame protest march.
@SanJoseGuy, SkiBum has suggested that you should get a job. Would you be interested in replacing the 17-year-old undocumented Mexican boy he employs to change his diaper?
Went to Sensations in Galena KS to sober up. Lol. After a few LITs at a local Joplin MO karaoke bar, I needed to sober up so I skipped the state line and went to Sensations in Galena KS. The SC is a non booze, full nude club. The dancer I took to VIP told me that she tried out for Hustler Club in Washington Park, IL and did not pass their test! What the fuck?!! She was absolutely fucking HOT! Can’t wait to go back. $100 for 3 song, fucking erotic as hell, basically fucked me OTP (didn’t think that was possible) bed dance. She definitely gave a good show in that she made it really appear as though she had orgasmic pleasure. My fantasy was fulfilled! I’m gonna spend the $400 next time for 1 hr VIP if she is there!
I would like to know more about how the EU operates and what is really at issue. Is it the Synarchy, which it has been seen as, from 1900 France, a hidden occult movement, and being done by Mitterand?
WARNING - The following accounts are considered to be forum trolls and may not be trustworthy:
san_jose_guy - Commonly referred to as SJG this forum member may have some sort of mental illness and is usually mocked or ignored. SJG has a long history of posting incendiary comments including being pro-rape. His comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate.
This thread ignore took awhile. But now that I see that SJG has fully hijacked it to himself I can safely add this shit to the list with no fear of missing a good post from someone else.
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Mostly as I know, in the US, Liberal was used with Hubert Humphrey and George McGovern, 1968 and 1972, the opposition to Nixon and people who it was hoped would end the war in Vietnam. Also it generally meant people who were pro-Civil Rights.
I strongly support this kind of Liberal thinking.
In 1988 Liberal was made into a dirty word, by Pat Robertson at the Republican Convention.
So now were here more about Progressives. Probably a better term.
I myself am a Radical Leftist. We have to change, we have to get beyond thinking which runs around things like the Work Ethic. We have to mitigate the Middle-Class Family because all it does is exploit children. We have to get to Social Democracy. We can't use the Mental Health System and Learning Disability Labels just because we won't have jobs for people. We can't use wars, or wars on drugs, or wars on immigrants just to create jobs and eat up resource surpluses.
And we can't run an economy for the stock market, when we are wreaking environmental disasters while failing to meet the most basic needs of some of our most vulnerable.
SJG
After the swimming pool stuff; check out the girl playing the electric mandolin! I guess she is wearing a flapper dress, unhindered by a bra. Like her big tits. Looks rather tall. And I love the full thighs. Anyone know who she is? Would not be easy to assemble a group of musicians who could play this so well, so much like the original recording. But I really like that one girl. My tastes have changed, post marriage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG will jump in here now and talk about how that's bullshit.
But look at all of the other forms of government throughout history....they end up giving a few people power over everyone else. Here, though it's waning with more and more government regulation, each and every person has the ability to work themselves up from the bottom, develop the better mousetrap and make themselves rich.
By comparison, look at what the great plans of government control of production have done to the people of the USSR, China, Cuba and now Venezuela. You end up with the same thing.....the government fucks up and those on the bottom pay with their lives. Oh....but in the US the wealthy elite have too much power.....it's the same shit in those countries. Do the high ups in the communist governments live like the little people or are they too special to have to suffer? Castro, the man of the people with his stupid uniform was worth billions when he died.....where was the redistribution of wealth there?
Now listen for the argument.....socialism/communism/democratic socialism hasn't been done right yet but we new smart people know how to tell everyone else how to live!!!!
No one wants to tell anyone else how to live, except maybe that they have to pay higher taxes on large incomes and asset holdings. A very small imposition considering how people at the bottom have been forced to live.
Liberalism is what America is about, going back to the Revolution, wanting to replace a King on the other side of the ocean, with local democracy. And Liberalism continues in freeing slaves and in putting some limits on monopolies, and in setting up progressive taxation so that our economy keeps on running.
You people listen to Right Wing Nonsense News, and no wonder your views are so strange.
SJG
Today though most people are highly influenced by Right Wing Disinformation Web Sites. So unless they really are, leftists, not much point in talking to them. Their entire world view has been shaped by stuff which has no relation to reality.
Nicole wrote, "BUT HOW ARE THESE LIBERALS ONLY BLAMING TRUMP AND NOT THE PARENTS WHO STILL MIGRATED AND TOOK THE RISK TO COME HERE, THEREFORE CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR OWN KIDS BEING SEPERATED?? LOL."
Nicole, our law does not allow indefinite detention. People have to either be charged and arraigned, or released, its like within one week or something like that. And at that arraignment the judge will have to sign off on the legitimacy of the charges. Minor child traveling with parents, crossing border, that is crime? I don't think so.
Most countries don't do stuff like this. And we did not either. Don't want to fill up our jails with people from other countries. Makes no sense. Makes the problems worse.
And then the refugees are fleeing from some pretty bad situations, like what has come about in Honduras after the US deposed its elected President.
https://www.democracynow.org/2…
Things would have to be pretty bad for people to abandon what every they may have had, and their entire support network, and then walk 1000 miles to an uncertain future.
SJG
Steely Dan @ Sony Music Center, NYC - Band & Crew Rehearsal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Girl Playing Electric Mandolin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Here Playing Violin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Rod Stewart & The Faces "I'm Losing You"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
While I may not agree with you about politics as I am a hard nose Republican I do still Love You!
Girl Playing Electric Mandolin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
and here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
J'Anna Jacoby: Violin, mandolin, acoustic guitar player for Rod Stewarts band., born 1964 California
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Notice something, the age ceiling for women in the entertainment industry seems to keep getting higher.
Maybe it is healthier lifestyles. Maybe it is also because the women are seen a playing as broader role. I think it is great.
SJG
car extremists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
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Has anyone been released from these detention centers, and released where, and what is their status now?
Are more immigrants being detained now?
SJG
When a Bf-109 spared a stricken B-17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Don't these two songs sound similar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
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Guess this is supposed to have an acoustic pick up installed in it?
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Today need to build a real Left in America's politics.
SJG
SJG
https://khn.org/morning-breako…
California sues over Trump plan to hold immigrant children indefinitely
https://www.sfchronicle.com/po…
Gov. Newsom, AG Becerra react to President Trump’s national emergency declaration 2/15/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
AG Becerra, Governor Newsom, and California Leadership, Hosts Press Conference on Census 6/27/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Gov. Gavin Newsom and Attorney General Becerra are expected to announce legal action on immigration 8/16/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Gov. Gavin Newsom, Attorney General Xavier Becerra announce legal action on immigration 8/26/19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
SJG
Garbage - Stupid Girl (live Paris)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Only Happy When It Rains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Live On Letterman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
SJG
But then he already showed this when he came here in 2016 to campaign for DJT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Jeremy Corbyn responds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
If Donald Trump's plans were debated openly, he also would be shown to be a fool!
SJG
The Not-So-Great Reason Divorce Rates Are Declining
Atlantic
https://getpocket.com/explore/…
UK parliament rejects Boris Johnson’s call for an early election - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
This Brexit idea is real stupid. Now changing the rules of the EU, that could be on the table.
If Brexit happens, the US must make clear that its primary allegiance is with the EU, not the UK.
Brexit: Endgame - The $20T Secret, with Stephen Fry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Brexit: Facts vs Fear, Boris vs Truth, with Stephen Fry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod…
Brits are feeling squeezed because they just don't get it. Same as the people who voted for Trump here, and same as Skibum our geriatric senile-suicidal.
SJG
Boris Johnson attacks Jeremy Corbyn for 'refusing' to take part in general election , 8min ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Boris & Trump's Deadliest Trick, w Stephen Fry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
If this Brexit really does go off, I'm going to shift my affairs to France.
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
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SJG
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SJG
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SJG
Charmaine Sinclair 4 early photos
https://www.tuscl.net/gallery.…
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Billy Bragg, discussion of UK High Court Ruling
https://www.democracynow.org/2…
Brexit was a stupid idea. I hope it gets dropped.
SJG
nemesisk7's Impeachment Thread
https://www.tuscl.net/discussi…
SJG's Impeachment Thread
https://www.tuscl.net/discussi…
Brexit Discussion, House of Commons
https://www.tuscl.net/discussi…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn: Government is failing people of Britain - BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Boris Johnson SNUBS Bercow and walks out of Commons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Boris Johnson starts the political fight of his life | Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Parliament sits amid Brexit crisis, Thursday 9/26, starting 10 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Parliament hits boiling point over Brexit - BBC Newsnight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
nemesisk7's Impeachment Thread
https://www.tuscl.net/discussi…
SJG's Impeachment Thread
https://www.tuscl.net/discussi…
Brexit Discussion, House of Commons
https://www.tuscl.net/discussi…
Calls for Boris Johnson to apologise over Jo Cox Brexit comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Brussels Talk of Extending Brexit to April 2020!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
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SJG
UK Commons, yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
Idea that UK can be ready for no-deal Brexit is 'just a myth': CBI | Street Signs Europe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Live Now | UK House of Commons | Day 2 of UK's Conservative Party conference , streamed 8 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
The B 52s With the Wild Crowd! Live In Athens, GA 2011
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BREXIT 30 days - "We're turbocharging no-deal preparations", says UK's Chancellor Sajid Javid to MPs
10/1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Jacob Rees-Mogg on the Queen, prorogation and a no-deal Brexit
10/1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Johnson to present EU with new Brexit proposals imminently , about Northern Ireland border, 10/1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
Ocasio-Cortez: Ukraine allegation one of the most serious we have seen
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SJG
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SJG
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SJG
Brexit news: Is THIS the date MPs will have ‘meaningful vote’ on new Brexit deal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Will Hungary Rescue Brexit?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
https://clubkiss.us/sessions/n…
You can fantasize about all those frat boys you like.
https://peinturedelavie.files.…
SJG
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SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
'Still no basis for Brexit agreement' chief EU negotiator says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
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SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
I would like to know more about how the EU operates and what is really at issue. Is it the Synarchy, which it has been seen as, from 1900 France, a hidden occult movement, and being done by Mitterand?
SJG
san_jose_guy - Commonly referred to as SJG this forum member may have some sort of mental illness and is usually mocked or ignored. SJG has a long history of posting incendiary comments including being pro-rape. His comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
Brexit: EU and UK agree to 'intensify' talks - BBC Newsnight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
SJG
16,000 dead in UK — the Brexit connection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Geroge Galloway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
I hope this Brexit can be avoided. Making changes to the EU, that's fine.
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
EU announces Brexit deal has been agreed with Boris Johnson | Full Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
Boris Johnson’s new Brexit deal explained - but will it get through parliament?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?…
I hope that Brexit can be avoided. But I do support making any changes to the EU which are deemed necessary.
If Brexit occurs, then I want the US to make it clear that it's primary alignment is with the EU, not the UK.
SJG