How much would you be willing to pay?

10: the cost of dinner/drinks 9: the cost of dinner/drinks 8: the cost of dinner/drinks

Here in flyover country? $200 max, no matter what? $170 if I have to get the room.

As I've said in the past, I am cursed with the fact that my Cheap Bone is thicker, veinier, and more throbbing than my Bone Bone... doesn't matter how hot she is or how good I SUSPECT the sex might be (in real life, you never know the sex is gonna be incredible, until you have sex with her)... there's always more hot girls who are great at sex out there, who I'll be able to snag at a better price. So that puts an upper limit on what I'll pay, no reason to go full retard over one particular girl, when there are so many other cute girls who are great, too, and may charge less.

I also have the general philosophy of: the sex gets BETTER AND BETTER the first 5+ times I'm with a girl, as trust relaxes her limits, she learns more and more what I like, and fantasizing about previous encounters makes the next encounter even hotter. For me it may take 10 times easily before the new-girl excitement starts to peak. So, in other words, I am completely uninterested in paying a huge amount to have sex with a girl once, since the payoff comes down the line. So, again, this sets an upper limit on what I'll pay: it has to be a number that's sustainable for multiple visits. For me, even $500 is not sustainable.

I suppose, with a truly spectacular woman who is also willing to do occasional overnights, and more routinely do longer OTCs including dinner/drinking/etc, I could drift up to $450... although I actually have never paid that much and not entirely sure I'd put my wallet where my keyboard is. Seeing her twice a month would mean $900 to her, plus drinks, dinners, hotel rooms takes that easily to $1500 total, which is approaching as much as I want to spend on P4P on a monthly basis, so she'd have to be pretty spectacular, because I'd be dropping all my other activities for her.

-->"Here in flyover country? $200 max, no matter what? $170 if I have to get the room."

Here in SF, the most expensive area in the country, I routinely offer $250-$300, and up until a couple of years ago, was getting LOTS of takers at that $250 price (in fact, I often offered $200 and got takers on that). But these days that's just too low, even FBSM girls (that is, just a 60 minute massage & handjob) are getting $220-$240 here, so $200 for a stripper OTC is just not sustainable. But prices have NOT drifted up to where you'd think they'd be ... like I said, $250-$300 for an attractive stripper is often just fine; $350 for a spectacular one is sometimes okay

One hour?

10 $300 9 $300 8 $300 7 $200 6 $50 5 $0 4 $(300) 3 (she gives me the title to a big house) 2 (she gives me the title to a beach mansion in Malibu) 1 (she gives me 10% share of AAPL stock)

What? You guys are paying for pussy? That's a chumps game. :)

To me a 10 is room stopping beautiful. A 10 that would have sex for anywhere close to 300 is a fucking unicorn for sure and probably not really a ten. I've been with some very beautiful women but never a ten.

Fuck it, a full night with a 10 that provides GFE sex would be worth 1k to me at least once. That's as high as I would go though. Trouble is, I've never met a ten willing to do OTC and if I ever did I doubt it would be a full night of GFE sex. Thus, I would never offer 1k.

@futuretrackstar lol @sinclair- you've never done OTC? Nothing wrong with that, some people on here are strictly ITC @subra- let's just say multiple people that had sex with her tell you it was the best sex of their life. So you go into it knowing and expecting the sex will be remarkable.

I think for me in general $500 would be my max, but if I see that perfect 10 I would probably pay up to $700 if she was a hard bargainer.

larry: no change in my answer... whatever number I come up with MUST be sustainable, because I'll want to do her multiple times.

Here in flyover country (IL-IN), I have paid $150-250 a few times to a 6 for a post-dinner or pre-brunch BJ. To my ATF, who is an 8 in looks but a 10 in GFE, I have very often paid $200-250 for a five-hour afternoon single-BJ date and $350-525 for a 16-hour overnight double-beej date.

I am currently negotiating with another 6 for a 5-hour afternoon date: she wants $600+ whereas I'm offering $350. I suspect we will not come to an agreement because she truly has GPS.

I'm also negotiating with an 8 for a 5-hour afternoon date: she wants $450 and I'm offering, again, $350. In this case I think it's only a matter of time, as we are not that far apart.

I agree with Subraman (as I so often do) that whatever I pay for OTC, it has to be sustainable because I will want to see her many times. If you start too high with an OTC girl, you're stuck at that level forever with her. At this point I'm most comfortable with $300-350 for an afternoon or evening and $500-600 for an overnight date (which is my preference).

Depending on circumstances at the time my upper limit is variable but usually feel $500 can get me an 8-10 if I work on it. I'd go up to 1k in exceptional circumstances.

I've had an 8.5 @ 250, BBBJCIM & anal and she is fun to talk to. IMO, no reason to pay $50 for filet mignon when you can get a ribeye for $10. I'm hungry...

@trackstar I noticed you said $300 for 8, 9, and 10. With a 10 obviously it's gonna be one of the hottest girls you've ever laid your eyes on. If she's rubbing your dick, and she is telling you for $500 she will give you the best fuck of your life.

You're gonna tell me in the moment you wouldn't pony up the extra $200 to make it happen?

I've run into some very hot dancers in the past but none i'd consider a 10 and 9s were as rare as a mullah in Tel Aviv. Now finding an 8 is very difficult.

As for what i'd be willing to pay, I've had some very hot dancers or escorts for $150.00 or less and often without the limited hour time frame. I suppose I would be willing to pay up to $300.00 for one that I found captivating in looks and also clicked with on a personal level but I would expect to get more than an hour out of her. If it was strictly limited to an hour I don't think i'd want to go over $200.00. That's just how i'm wired I love pussy but I set a limit and walk away if it's not agreeable. If more guys were willing to do the same prices would come down but IMO some guys have more money than brains, their game is lacking, or both.

@Larry not at this stage of my life. Fast forward 20 years, and if I'm a multimillionaire then yea, I probably would pony up the extra. But not much more, cuz she's aware of the market and if she's that demanding then I can't imagine she's really all that giving and flexible in bed.

@theeosu I suppose it would depend on the area. I'm guessing you live somewhere in Ohio. Here in LA (at least at the clubs I go to) on a Friday or Saturday night you will see a few 8's and one or two 9's. With me I'm lacking in game, and everyone that knows me knows that. Now if I was making $10 bucks a hour, $500 would put a big dent to my money situation, and I would be a lot more hesitant to fork it out.

Not sure if her appearance is 100% the question for me. If she's "hot enough" -- to shorten the discussion, let's just say she's a 7-up, according to my own preferences -- then the issue of cost is more an issue of my own feelings of desperation and our mutual sense of respect. She can bilk me if I'm drunk, horny, stupid, and feeling sorry for myself, and I've gone as far as paying $600 for a single-pop dreadful experience that I still regret. Or she can make me a very happy man if I'm into her, and she's into me. Usually that seems to run into the $200 to $250 range, though that is now becoming less and less likely as the market price seems to be rising. Maybe Trump will ruin our economy -- and rip the bottom out of the single-mother-support system (Headstart, Daycare, First Grade at a public school, low-cost visits to the pediatric clinic, Section 8 housing) that the prices will start to drop as demand for the money starts to exceed demand for the service. I'm hoping. In Europe a fuck-and-suck session (approx. 15 minutes? rather impersonal; but rather professionally performed, too, with all necessary amenities and almost guaranteed to get the job done) the usual street-girl or window-girl (or similar-venue-girl) in Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Antwerp, can go for the equivalent of US $50, depending on the exchange rate. We hate sex in our Puritanical USA so much we've driven the price of it up to a luxury good!

Yes no doubt everything costs more in LA than Cleveland or Akron. I was just comparing what i've paid to what i'm willing to pay. It doesn't matter how much i have, make, or have made to me, i will only go up to a certain point for pussy before i turn it down. There's plenty more to choose from.

I know a full on 9 on the dayshift at Bourbon Street in Phoenix. She says she's totally up for OTC and judging from her dances in VIP, I think the sex would be mind blowing. But, she says she gets $1200! I haven't yet really started negotiating with her, but i would pay $500 at least once. However, the earlier point about sustainability is well taken!

I would not pay more than $300 for a one hour escort session, therefore I would not pay more than $300 for one hour of OTC sex with a stripper. Even then, the $300 would be for the rare situation that she is a 9 or a 10. If she is a 7 or an 8, I'd try to negotiate the price around $200. I've had a few escorts I'd rate an 8 and the most they charged was $200 for an hour.

But right now, I am all about getting my action ITC. If I find a suitable candidate, I will switch to OTC, and it would be exclusively with her and I would not be visiting clubs again until the relationship with the OTC stripper runs its course.

Why spend so much when Larry's mom will let you give her a dirty Sanchez for $9.95?

A good person to ask is JuiceBox69

I try and make 400 my max no matter what. I could probably be tempted to go up to 500 for the right stripper. but if they want it to be a regular thing its gonna be abt 300.

@azdd wow that's a lot of money! You think it was SS? Does she have multiple people paying $1,200 or is it just one person?

Generally I'm comfortable paying $300 to $400, but in the moment if I'm really horny and she's really hot I wouldn't be surprised if I shelled out 200 or 300 extra bucks if that was required.

I think $1200 was 100% SS, just on the crazy chance I might pay it. I only see her occasionally so I haven't had a chance to really make her a serious offer to see if she will bite. She is totally Playmate hot with a sexy, flirty attitude, so the big head has a tough job controlling g the little head!

I wouldn't agree to pay her anything either. I havent seen any girl I consider a 10 in several years.

$200 per hour maximum for a girl who pushes the right buttons with a 2-hour minimum and $800 maximum for 8 hours. 1-10 scale is not as important as service, but a 10 gets the same as a 7. No girls who start the time until after dinner and I always try for a day-long arrangement.

Most dancers don't make $800 in a 24-hour period so we hold the negotiating power if we let the big brain be the boss.

lapdanceking82: $150 max

Brilliant! I love that there is a bargain hunter on the board!

Seriously though, given the scenario that you know the sex will be great, truly brilliant even, and you guys are only willing to fork over a max of $500 for a 10. That seems non-brilliant! :(

Just remember, fun > money. It's only money after all! ;)

For me, somewhere between $400 to $500.

If I made My-name-is-Elmer-J-Fudd-I-own-a-mansion-and-a-yacht money, then I'd perhaps part with more. But right now, that's what the budget will allow.

@4got2wipe, Don't judge a man's limit for OTC until you have had a couple of lapdances in his boxers where the dancer gives a good grind, has a phat ass and doesn't keep getting up.

s275ironman-->"I would not pay more than $300 for a one hour escort session, therefore I would not pay more than $300 for one hour of OTC sex with a stripper."

s275: That kind of begs the question -- do you have have one-hour OTC experiences with strippers? For me, in the past 5 years, I think the answer is no. Once I negotiate the sex, I'll invite her to go drinking beforehand, offer to buy dinner, whatever; even a short OTC tends to last a couple of hours counting the sex, and often many more. If I have a hotel room rather than the hot tubs (where everything is timed to the minute), the girls rarely time things there either. By the time we get back to the hotel room, we're buzzed, I have some more drinks ready, and everything there lasts however long it lasts, including after-sex cuddling and socializing.

In short: for a question like this, I just assume we're talking about multi-hour OTC for this price.

^^^ and now I remember the point I was trying to make: I'll do some loose comparisons, but because of the escort's typical timing of every minute, versus many strippers' hours-long OTC with little regard to timing, I don't think they're directly comparable. On the other hand, I note a smoking hot stripper will often take LESS than a similarly hot escort, a delightful weirdness of the inefficiency in the system :)

-->"Seriously though, given the scenario that you know the sex will be great, truly brilliant even, and you guys are only willing to fork over a max of $500 for a 10. That seems non-brilliant! :("

For me, unless I were swimming in money, spending over that would be insane.. to reiterate some of the many reasons:

1. AGain, there's no such thing as "know the sex will be truly great". I presume Larry's additional statement of "multiple people that had sex with her tell you it was the best sex of their life" is borne, perhaps, out of lack of experience with other areas of the sex industry, where it's quite common to have a girl with amazing reviews, but for whatever reason she's just not that great to you. The part of the exercise where you "know" it'll be amazing sex, without having had sex with her yourself, is so contrived that it makes it ridiculous... what I'm willing to pretend is that she got amazing reviews, which is a great sign, but most of us know from experience that that guarantees nothing. In the end, for me, it'd be foolish to spend more than what I'd be willing to lose if the experience turns out to be just ok.

2. It's not like there's nothing else around, there's an opportunity cost here. Right now I am seeing a girl OTC who is an 8, but with a 10 ass, and who is in that wonderful time where we've been together a few times, there's still some new-girl excitement left, but we also know each others' kinks and preferences, and she loves to party with me beforehand and she flirts me up until I'm about to explode, for $350 (which is high to me). The sex is un-fucking-believable, which in this case I KNOW for a fact since I've had it with her, and can afford to have it again :) Pay double that for a 10 who I really don't know whether I'll love or not, who may or may not be as fun to party with beforehand, who doesn't know my sexual preferences at all... for one time, then never again because I can't afford it, so don't even get her at her peak? In what universe does this make sense?

In short, too many other options out there, and a girl I can't see multiple times is of limited interest to me ... for me, at least, if I paid a one-time unaffordable amount to a chick just because she's hot, it'd be because for some reason I was mentally weak and just let the little overrule everything I know about p4p sex. It would be different if I was rolling in money and it didn't matter to me, then I might pay a premium for marginal increases in beauty, and be willing to take bigger risks that I wouldn't get my money's worth

I'm never going to fuck a 10,9,8 because it's to expensive and I'm to cheap..let's just be realistic

What I fuck is 6 and 7 range

I don't even fuck 5 and under because although it's a bargain I'm not attracted

So 6-7 is the sweet spot and that comes at a great price of $100-$200

Every time I read the comments on this post I don't get it.

"Remember that the sex is gonna be incredible."

If that is the case why would anyone pay more for a 10 than for even a 2? Incredible sex is incredible sex.

This thread further convinces me that fishsticks' only motivation to have sexual relations with a woman is to maximize how much he can impress other guys.

He would probably rather pay $1K to fuck an uninspired, bored "10" than have a free, sensual, meaningful mindblowing romp with a "6".

Yeah I know said an hour, but it's just basically you fuck until you cum. It's not a all night sex romp or anything like that. Now if you came in 5 min or something, if you can get it up again soon, she'll let you for a round 2, but that's it.

The incredible part is an assumption lol

1. Front room makeout session. If she is going to be good, she won't be talking about it, she'll be doing it.

2. Paying a woman for sex is just for the first time. After that you find other ways to make it work out. You can still be giving her money, but not as a fee. Money is just a show of care and concern, never a way to try and persuade her to do something she doesn't otherwise want to do.

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^ It sounds to me that he is asking how much you would pay if you know the sex would be incredible. He even repeats it.

"You know the sex will be incredible, but she's not gonna come cheap."

"Remember that the sex is gonna be incredible."

Not you think it will be incredible or that it may be incredible.

The sex is gonna be incredible! It is gonna be great! It gonna be so good that you will get tired of telling other guys about it on the Internet!

The only way for him to know would be if he already paid it lol...thus just pay it again if you got it like that

I do not thus I wouldn't have found out in my cenerio.

Also a big sticker price doesn't mean good sex

A one and done just like a one night stand isn't going to be no wear as good as two people having past sexual history together

Thus the great sex...the mouth dropping , eye rolling nuts are going to be from frequent sexual events that will lead to the best sex of your life

In my past I was foolish to pay the sticker price a few times and let me tell you that was somehow the worst sex of my life even though they were hot

The best sex in my life has come from strippers that I spent time with and got to know over time. Then I spent multiple $100, $200 and $300 romps in the sack with her and each time the sex got better.

As with any negotiation im lowballing of course for a 10 200 i dont care how much oil sheiks inflate the price meat wallet is not worth more than 200 because i have a passport and will just hit tj or manila and go crazy with fresh faced beauties so why should one stuck up chick command such a high rate? Nonsense...

Bingo ^^^

now that i know better and from a tj perspectine... $100 for the 10; $80 for the 9; $60 for the 8.

@larryfisherman: "let's just say multiple people that had sex with her tell you it was the best sex of their life. So you go into it knowing and expecting the sex will be remarkable."

As for me, other people's opinions about sex quality are guidelines only, and not particularly good ones most of the time, apparently because my tastes are different enough that experiences aren't not directly relatable.

Two examples from our local USASG boards.

One is a hot as hell tattooed redhead with the sweetest meaty pussy I've ever seen. Virtually everyone else describes her as a dead fish lay. Only one other guy and I disagree, she's a very enthusiastic partner if you warm her up properly. Top 10 of the last two decades.

The other is a woman who called herself "the head doctor." Allegedly gave the best head ever. Guys were falling all over themselves talking about how excellent she was. I went to see her, and it was mediocre. And that was being generous.

So when other guys start talking in superlatives, I take it with a grain of salt.

I've charged $200 for a bj

"now that i know better and from a tj perspectine... $100 for the 10; $80 for the 9; $60 for the 8."

That's just taking advantage of the peso vs dollar. Not sure that would fly in reverse(a Mexican saying he would only pay that or less over here).

Regardless, I would pay

Dinner at a 5 star restaurant for a 9 or 10 Dinner at a 4 star restaurant and a movie for an 8 Red lobster and a movie for a 7 Taco bell or McD's for a 6 and below

In the clubs in LA, I have a perfect 9-10 at Spearmint Rhino City of Industry. She charges me $600 for a CBJ, and I have paid this price over 10-15 times. Understand I'm a multi millionaire currently. For full everything she was 1K which I don't usually go for. At Paradise down the street, I have a solid 7 who performs CBJ for the price of VIP ranging anywhere from $150-300. If I drive up to Upland and visit Tropical Lei, I have 15 girls there that was 7-low 9s that perform between $200-450 all in. Some have tried to upsell me to $600 to $1000 which I'm not willing to pay at this club. Have had a solid 9 perform a CBJ at Tropical Lei for $300. I'm very picky by the way. If it was a 10 I would pay over $1500 but I have never seen a 10 in a California club EVER. That's how picky I am.

So I would consider that girl at Rhino a 10, she's a 9 that was a typo

How do you mistype a 9 into a 10? It takes 49 keystrokes and the 1 is nowhere near the 9

Oops I meant 2 keystrokes. Must have been a typo.

I don't know how much I would be WILLING to pay.

I can't recall ever paying over 200 and usually get what I want for 100 . . . maybe 150 max. Until I confront someone that is able to motivate me beyond by current upper limit, that's it.

Larry, you have explained that there was an awesome Latina who came to you home at 2am, and she was mind blowing, and when you saw her outside the club, she refused to accept money.

Why are you posting on this forum instead of banging her?

SJG

In my view, most of the stuff in a review like that is unimportant. What is important, and what is not there, is a description of the front room friendliness, the GFE auditions. That is what tells us how good the back room action will be. It tells us how softened up you can get your girl before committing to the back room, or to the motel.

And then also, can dancers come and go as they please, can you just walk one out the door with you, and she won't have to change her shoes or clothes? Do they have robes? Do the girls have their stuff in gym bags, so they can just walk out with you.

Can the girls come back later, so that they don't loose money if someone just wants them for a few hours instead of overnight?

And of course how about waitresses and other female staff, can you engage with them in the same ways?

Telling us that no bouncers are getting greased was important.

But you didn't tell us how far to the nearest motel, and if they are cool about all this, and if it might even be just across a parking lot, so you can walk your girl there.

SJG

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I hate to respond to SJG's posts, but here goes. ..

"Larry, you have explained that there was an awesome Latina who came to you home at 2am, and she was mind blowing, and when you saw her outside the club, she refused to accept money.

Why are you posting on this forum instead of banging her?"

Because he can't keep his lies straight.

^^^^^^ He's not lying.

SJG

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All of them would get $200 or less if we negotiate that way. Regardless of high rank, their pussy doesn't always rank in the same. Can't say I've ever had a 10, but my 5s on up have had some pussy I'd rank a 10.