Donald Trump
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
So here's tonight's shocking truth: I support Donald Trump for president.
Part of that is because I'm high.
And part of it is because I despise the other candidates,
And another part of it is because I'm incredibly apathetic about everything but pussy and strippers.
Yet another part is that he married a gorgeous woman who is far younger than him. Stupid to marry her but maybe he has a prenup.
And I also enjoy watching the drama that Trump creates.
But it's partly because I think he makes more sense on the issues than anyone else. I'd rather see him as president than anyone else running. Not saying I like or love some things about him but on balance I think his positives out weigh the negatives.
I also think he can definitely win. And I'm convinced there are many people who support him, including people on tuscl, but they've been coerced by the liberal media into staying quiet.
Does anyone else want to have the balls to admit that they're voting for Trump. If you'll speak up, I'll protect you from Nina. I promise. Short of that, will some of you at least admit that Trump has your vote over any democratic candidate?
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I think if you're fiscally conservative but socially liberal, Trump might be your best choice. It's a shame he's racist.
Vote Libertarian!
Mikeya- anti American? I know you're a passionate righty, but could you try to be a little objective?
I could never support a POTUS candidate who was so bad at running his business that he had to declare bankruptcy not once, not twice, not three times, but 4 times.
Everyone makes mistakes, so I could see 1 time and learn from it.
But 4 times is someone abusing the system for their own personal benefit.
You really want this guy in charge of our countries finances?
It's hard for me to get behind some of the other GOP candidates. I just support someone who is socially conservative (meaning: against gay marriage and against abortion, and wants to shove church-y crap down my throat). Can't Americans have free will.
Personally, like Larry, I'd rather see a Barak Obama 3rd term as well. I never understood the ire he generated among the GOP (I'm GOP myself, I have been since I declared when I turned 18 and voted for Bob Dole). I much prefer Obama to anything currently running this cycle. With that said, I think Hilary will win, and that's because he's the candidate who's in the middle and most Americans are centrist. I'd be happy with Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, or Donald Trump as President. All have their flaws, but the other candidates are more flawed than those three, IMO.
I'm still torn between voting Trump or voting Kasich in the Ohio primary in a few days. :/
Trump is a train wreck, if he were actually to become president it would be a disaster.
Most on TUSCL don't seem to support Trump
I agree he would be a disaster
So how the heck does he keep winning?
The more I see Trump debating - the more he concerns me. He shouldn't use that sort of tactic - and it won't win him any allies in Washington.
To answer your question - if it's between Trump and Hillary - I would vote for Trump. Sorry - but my vote would be to stop another Clinton from getting into the White House. That's not a good reason - and yet it's the only one I've got right now.
He is only candidate that many world leaders have voiced against, so I doubt that he can do much with foreign policy. The only one I think he can get along with is probably Putin, so unless we're heading toward communism that does us no good.
Trump talks so much about making America great again, but he make fail businesses and get sue for fraud, declare bankruptcy multiple time, send work oversea to China. I think if he's the president, he'll be the first president to bankrupt America.
I'll vote for him if he turn the Whitehouse into the biggest strip club with the most beautiful girls and take care of the tab and I'm allowed to go there anytime I want.
It will be one of the few times when "bipartisan" comes to actual fruition in Congress. They'll block his legislation, defund his initiatives, override his vetoes, make his executive orders unenforceable, use the first excuse to impeach him they can, and block and stymie him in any way they can.
Remember that Trump isn't a brilliant businessman. He inherited money and connections from his father. Nothing wrong with that, but people think he's a business genius. Where is the evidence for that? As warhawks said, he's gone bankrupt four times. He knows how to game the system, but a business genius he is not.
His recent success has been as an entertainer. He is good at that job, and that's why he keeps winning. He entertains morons and they vote for him.
Remember, Trump is not a conservative. The shit he says is a mixture of crazy right wing shit and crazy left wing shit. And if you're centrist, like I am, saying a mixture of crazy right wing stuff and crazy left wing stuff doesn't make you centrist. It makes you crazy. The problem is that very little of what he says isn't crazy.
With Trump I see two possibilities. First, he's lying. Second, he's surrounded himself by sycophants for so long that he really is crazy and he's telling the truth. I actually lean toward the "he's lying" side, but that doesn't make me want to vote for him. And the possibility that he's telling the truth scares the shit out of me.
Anybody but Trump 2016!
Cruz scares me a bit because I think he believes the socially conservative crap. And he doesn't know which fights to pick. Hint, if you're a first term senator it's not with your majority leader.
But Kasich and Rubio? They'll move to the center on social issues during the general election. They may be a bit more socially conservative than you'd like, but Kasich is hardly a radical social conservative. Rubio is a true politician. He won't push policies unless they are likely to get him reelected. Neither will shove church-y stuff down your throat.
Who knows what Trump will do?
I say Kasich > Rubio > Clinton > Sanders > Cruz >>>>>>>>>> Trump
My preferences
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SJG
Clinton
Rubio
Cruz
Trump
Hillary
Sanders
There's, that's my order.
I would have Sanders higher on the list, but I think he thinks taxing the fuck out of everyone will solve all the problems of the USA.
In reality, if Hillary was president I don't see much of a difference between her and the current administration.
It's true it doesn't matter much who gets in because he/she will just be a puppet to our beurocracy, but we might as well be proud of who we're looking at in the White House. A legalized citizen as hot as Trump's wife is a great role model for someone aspiring to be great. That is the kind of examples we want to see, not a repeat of Bill Clinton sniffing around and plotting his next murder with Hillary backing him up.
In the 1968 presidential race Louis Abolafia ran and had as a campaign poster a photo of himself sitting nude on a cake of ice saying, "I have nothing to hide". Vote Louis Abolafia!
The only "bad" candidates are Sanders and Trump. Which is ironic since I support Sanders.
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Shadowcat
Juice
Osama Bin Laden
Saddam Huesain
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
The Bouncer at Platinum Plus
Hillary
Sanders
By doubling down on racism and xenophobia (anti-Muslim, anti Mexican) the Republicans have all but thrown the election away.
http://www.politics1.com/p2016.htm
What a joke.
I worry about international relations if Trump takes the reins as well as economic policy. From what I've heard Trump hasn't yet put forth a cogent tax plan and his proposals to levy import duties on China and Mexico can only lead to trade wars which will appear to have dire consequences for manufacturing in the U.S.
Sanders' proposals sound better to me in that Wall Street regulation and heavily taxing obscene profits from hedge fund management being used to lessen the tax burden on low and middle income Americans will increase consumer demand and have secondary benefits.
His proposal to subsidize PUBLIC colleges by eliminating tuition isn't all that radical in that it doesn't include fees and expenses. Anyone who has attended public college knows that tuition is just a portion of the cost. Plus, the current US Dept of Labor estimates that 80% of new jobs which will be created in the next decade will not require a bachelor's degree, but will require some post-secondary education (Associates or certificate). Private schools will continue to do as they have done. Harvard's $34 Billion endowment will still allow the College to admit whoever they choose.
Realistically it still looks like we'll have 2 candidates running for POTUS: one who may be defending herself against Justice Dept charges and the other giving depositions in many Civil suits , both during the height of election season. What a clusterfuck!
Sanders is a bad candidate because he's blowing as muck smoke as Trump as far as policies go; he's just attacking a different aspect of 'what's wrong with America'. Both will expand government, increase the deficit and have no way to pay for it. At least Clinton's proposals make economic sense.
If I actually thought Sanders could win, I might just hold my nose vote for Hillary in the primary. But like the Trump supporters, I'm tired of 'business as usual' and Sanders is the first liberal alternative to that since Kennedy. I'm no Hillary fan, but like the people who say, "Anyone but Hillary" I say, "Anyone but Trump". Even Sanders. Naturally, he's almost un-electable so that's way I said Sanders is a bad candidate.
For those of you who want Obama to have a 3rd term, I respectfully think you don't understand the long term damage he is doing to the economy. Listen to the screams of the poor and middle class when some of these hefty Obamacare fines kick in once Obama is out of office.
I would vote for Trump. Yes, there is a chance he might throw a tantrum and decide to Nuke Canada, but there is probably a bigger chance that he could make more favorable trade agreements and possibly bring back some manufacturing jobs that other Presidents have chased away.
Who are we kidding folks? Most of us would vote for a guy in either party who would make extras legal in the VIP rooms!
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But Trump? I fear he could really piss off the wrong enemy.
A lot of people feel that most politicians are in-it for themselves and that the political establishment is bought while the middle-class is getting shafted. Trump is kinda giving a big middle-finger to the political establishment and this resonates w/ lots of people that feel they’ve been getting the short-end of the stick (kinda the enemy of my enemy is my friend kinda thing).
Choosing another politician for many will be business as usual w/ another bought candidate – Trump seems to be his own man and perhaps people are seeing him as an alternative to the same-o same-o bought politicians that people are disillusioned with.
SJG
Yes, part-time and low paying jobs have increased dramatically under Obama but I feel this is just American coming out of a recession. Obamacare is a job killer. Ask someone who has a business.
The budget deficit is increasing at a slower rate. This is due to Obama being blocked by Congress. That total federal debt has increased exponentially.
Have I addressed all of the stale talking points you reproduced? I would rather talk about naked chicks giving head in the VIP.
+1 twentyfive
My thoughts too. I think he just got in the race to make a statement, never expecting to win. I still think at some point, he's gonna say "WTF happened" and drop out and go back and run his businesses.
SJG
Financial Meltdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQzEWeGJ…
POTUS does have an impact on job creation and on other aspects of our economy despite the obstruction of Congress.
I'm glad to hear you are hiring. I'm from Pontiac, Illinois. There is very little manufacturing around here except for Catapillar. Maybe it is regional but things here are stagnant and many people have given up looking for jobs.
I don't know what job producing qualities you people think Obama has enacted. He raises taxes, everything is over-regulated, he borrows too much money and the debt has skyrocketed. Obama has never owned a business and never worked any job that wasn't political in nature.
I'm not arguing, but I don't see what policies he has promoted that make you think he is responsible for anything positive in the economy.
--> "Effective immediately, make Medicare available to everyone, period." -->
But that sank among the conservative congressmen and women who wanted to the keep the free market option, for people willing to pay full freight (i.e., status quo, for well-off people). I understand the rationale (it's very American --> work hard, get more money/wealth, get better health care using your acquired wealth), but the private sector option does *not* contain costs. Too much goes to the insurance industry and to hospitals (as facilities charges), if my medical bills are anything to go by. Much of the cost is not for the doctors (many of whom, I feel, *DO* justify their salaries and wages).
It doesn't help that people think that single payer = socialized medicine.
The ACA & PP Act, as it stands, the "compromised one" is a "con-job." I wished the original vision of "Effective immediately, make Medicare available to everyone, period" would have been the one we got. *That* one, might have, had some chance in containing costs. It *might* have.
This was what sunk Richard Nixon's Family Assistance Plan.
SJG
All the others are acting like clowns.
I'll vote for any Republican over Hillary. I've already resigned myself to the fact that I'm not going to change anything but I will still vote. I'm thinking maybe Trump can work a deal with the Republicans in congress to cut some spending and cut some EPA regulations that have shut down the coal mining industry costing over 100,000 jobs plus cut out some other crap that Obama as enacted as dictator of this country. However if the people want to elect Obama's queen, Hillary, then I believe she'll go to war with everyone she feels like. I think she will be worse than Trump if elected. I guess we may see.
This doesn't mean I like any of the other candidates either. I just hate Trump and it goes back years. I never watched the Apprentice because of him. I'm debating whether to vote as a Republican (I am independent who has leaned Democratic)and vote against him or vote Democratic (I like Sanders better but I don't like many of his ideas) or not vote either one and vote non partisan. In the general election if it's Clinton vs Trump I'll vote Clinton because while I don't like her and think she is corrupt I HATE Trump. If it's another Republican vs Clinton I may vote for the Republican. Anyone is more experienced than Trump, including me (I am actually an elected official on a local board).
I liked Rubio but now I have doubts, same with Cruz.
Kasich is my Governor, I'm not a big fan and in some ways he's not conservative enough for me but he's still better than the other options. When he was in Congress I thought he would be a good Presidential prospect but he's mellowed some over the years. In spite of that Kasich has the most overall experience of all the candidates and he is my choice although I don't see him going the distance.
It will probably be between Trump and Clinton and there is and never will be any way that I would support Clinton. No matter who the nominees are I think the lesser of 2 evils will be the Republican.
If Trump did become president it would be a four year fiasco until the establishment found a reason, any reason, to impeach him which they know doubt would. When I ask Trump supporters why they support him, they struggle to come up with specific reasons. They most frequent reason given is because Obama sucks or something. When I tell them Trump is advocating killing innocent women and children of terrosts as a deterrent, they don't believe me. When I ask them what specifically Trump would do to magically solve all these problems, they start talking about how much Obama sucks. Funny as shit.
Trump was a disaster in last nights debate. When the juvenile insults are removed and the candidates are forced to talk specifics, Trump appears lost.
And I do believe it matters who is president. If Trump did get elected, I believe most of our lives would be tangibly impacted for the negative. The freedoms we would have to give away to enable him to murder innocents, round up 12 million illegals, torture people would be life changing for all of us. Just baffling how this maniac has come as far as he has.
What good is having specific reasons w.r.t. most conventional politicians if they rarely follow thru on what one believes about them.
Stating Trump’s faults IMO by no means legitimizes the other candidates which in the eyes of many are a greater evil by virtue of most of them being bought by the special interests.
And until we can get the money out of the process this is the only way it can be, the fact that Donald Trump is self funding gives me little comfort it just proves how corrupt our system has gotten when in order to make a statement that can be heard, takes millions and millions of dollars. The last presidential election cost over a billion dollars, with that thought in mind, how can we get our country back to some semblance of normalcy, when these guys are able to raise and spend, this kind of money to apply for a job that only pays $400K annually.
I will quote Trump and include him in my statement "These guys are terrible"
Incredible and surreal as it sounds, it's all over at this point and the OP will get his wish for Trump as the Republican nominee. Trump's gonna win Indiana and will go on to get most of the California delegates, too. What a gift to the Democrats. Trump will get slaughtered in the general election, the Dems will get to appoint up to five supreme court nominees over time, the Dems will take over the Senate.
Simply amazing...
National polls at this point don't mean a whole lot. Nevertheless, I do think it is noteworthy that there are now polls showing trump beating Hillary.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-…
I'm not saying trump is clearly going to win. Nobody knows who will win because there are so many unknowns in the upcoming race particularly with a wild card like Trump involved. However there are many reasons to believe that the race will be a close one.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-…
GOP is in disarray.
We just won the Presidency! The vote count on the Senate is close, but probably will be 50-50 when the dust settles. The Republicans will keep the House thanks to gerrymandering, but will lose seats.
A toast to secret Democratic Agent Trump and 8 more years of peace and prosperity!
Of course, if liberals were smart enough not to take that spoon fed editorial crap they get from the likes of MSNBC as gospel, such as that carnage down the ticket nonsense, then they wouldn't be liberals. After all, we know which party is the one that draws the uneducated vote - and indeed relies upon it.
I look forward to Obamacare's repeal, among many other fine acts, which will all be coming to a country near you starting in January. :)
I am convinced that Trump has the momentum and could well win. Nevertheless, it feels mighty uncomfortable to agree with Rick.
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They only vote once every four years, otherwise the Senate would have a permanent democratic supermajority.
Republicans in general *talk* a big game, but, especially southern republicans, many of whose constituents have medical care now that they didn't before, aren't going to upset the apple cart and *divest* themselves of the means by which they can be perceived to be "tough" on business.
*Some* provisions *might* be repealed or modified, however the law will remain largely intact for the foreseeable future.