Soap Opera Part 2
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Monday, November 2, 2015 9:36 PM
Holy shit I think PhantomGeek might have been right. I went back and read her messages. They sound like her mostly. But a couple of things she wouldn't likely say. And she said something about our history that was not quite right, it was very close but not exact, like somebody maybe told the person writing about it but they weren't there.
I never even considered this. But Then I thought about what PG said, I re-read her messages a couple of times, and I'll be damned as if it doesn't sometimes sound like somebody is doing a good imitation of her.
So what do I do now. See her itc and ask was that you? I could text her real cell no but if somebody has access to her burn ap they could delete texts. I could email her.
And yes I could just drop the whole fucking thing. But I really want to know if it was her. I don't think I could live with not knowing what this shit was all about.
I never even considered this. But Then I thought about what PG said, I re-read her messages a couple of times, and I'll be damned as if it doesn't sometimes sound like somebody is doing a good imitation of her.
So what do I do now. See her itc and ask was that you? I could text her real cell no but if somebody has access to her burn ap they could delete texts. I could email her.
And yes I could just drop the whole fucking thing. But I really want to know if it was her. I don't think I could live with not knowing what this shit was all about.
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By your own admission - "Just drop the whole fucking thing".
Step away from the rabbit hole John.
John, a doctor here on TUSCL would probably tell you to take two strippers and call us in the morning. What I'm going to advise you to do is:
LET. HER. GO. NOW!
Consider this your new mantra. Step over to the nearest mirror (preferably a private one; it'd be too weird if you did this in public), stare into it, and tell yourself, "LET. HER. GO. NOW." Do this five times, every day, until it's completely and finally ingrained into you.
And you remember what I said about saving those pictures and videos of her to a flash drive? Fuck that idea. If you've already transferred everything, just crush that drive under your heel AND MOVE ON already.
If none of this works, it's time for you to find an applicable 12-step program for yourself.
Brilliant!
In another thread, I opined that she might have stopped seeing you because you freaked her out with how emotional you were getting. The more you post, the more I believe that this is the case.
So with all that said, you've obviously left your sense of reality behind a long time ago, along with any dignity and self respect. I guess how much longer you want to keep being the butt of a running joke is entirely up to you.
From her perspective, you are an old whiny and needy dude who she fucked for money until he became more trouble than he was worth. You'd probably still be fucking her if the whiny and needy parts didn't kick in, but you were obviously just too weak to enjoy sticking your dick in her without losing your damned mind. But now that ship has sailed and all that remains is for you to whine yet more on this board, unless of course you cannot help but make yourself look even more foolish by chasing after a young stripper who thinks you are a joke.
Sack up dude and walk away. I can't read the same reconstituted shit over and over, so I'm out of your threads for now, but I hope that you finally find a little self respect and learn how to properly control yourself with strippers.
In the extremely rare case that someone else is txting you and it's not the DS, if that's really the case then you are likely a punchline for these bitches, so take your dignity and walk away.
Been there done that, I've sat in hotel rooms waiting on a bitch that never showed, you got on a plane to visit a bitch that never showed. Game over.
What shailynn said.
What GACA said.
What PG said
What clubdude said.
What motorhead said.
What lopaw said.
What rh48hr said.
What Corvus said.
Jeez, JS, there are only two possibilities here!
1. She's a sadistic bitch who for whatever reason enjoys playing you like a cat plays with a mouse, or
2. She didn't text you (meaning she didn't care!) and either her roomie or her whale did, just to be sadistic.
Neither option holds any promise of all for you. So leave it alone; stop thinking about her; grow a pair and walk away from this rabbit whole before you show up as a 2 AMer!
Second, I was high when I posted this. So it might be possible that my elevated state of mind had something to do with it.
Third, why isn't SJG here to tell me that divorced men have a smell?
Fourth, while I did think this was possible while high last night, and while everything I post is true, I do also try (sometimes successfully, sometimes not) to post material with some entertainment value or interest of some sort. This was one of those posts that probably failed. But no need for everybody to have an discrete urine release over it. Go back to debating whether to pay cash for a car now. I'm fine. And no need for the intervention either (but remember the redhead rule if you do try it).
Meat, that would be really funny.
JohnSmith69, there's no question that rickdugan is kind of creepy and d-baggy, but I suggest you take the actionable part of his advice for your own mental health.
I understand breaking up and finding you DS no doubt blunted the pain. But her time is past. Whether the text was from her or her girlfriend or her new whale and whether it was sadistic or just thoughtless doesn't matter. She isn't worth your mental health. Swear her off and move on.
Just a little sincere (and hopefully brilliant) advice. I really hope you get past this and get back to joyful crazy stories!
Instead of being all butt hurt because I was too direct, you'd be better served in thinking about what I and others have said. Your youth is gone and with it your chance at ever having spring romance with a 20 something year old girl. Facing that reality probably sucks for a recently divorced dude, but the sooner you do, the safer you will be fucking strippers.
Maybe you are struggling with your current reality more than others because you never really had a spring romance in your life and/or feel like your best years were wasted in a bad marriage. Idk, but what I do know is that trying to recapture lost youth with strippers will at best cost you a good chunk of money and dignity (case in point) and, at worst, deplete your life savings. I have seen it more times than I can count.
So perhaps I was a bit harsh, but after seeing your posts over the past several weeks, it seemed time to lay it out as explicitly as possible. The message was well intended even if the delivery was a bit rough.
If it makes you feel better, no matter how pathetic you might be, I am way way worse - lately I have been spending all my free time stalking him on fb, rereading his texts and crying, lol, sigh. And just like you, I wanted to send him angry message - I still do and I might.
Rick is being harsh but doesn't mean bad for you.
I hope you will forget bitch as soon as possible. I wish you all the best.
I think you are adding fuel to the fire per se and making a bad situation worse and giving her (and/or her handler) too much control – and it could have been worse – they (DS and S.O.) could've tried to manipulate you into sending them $$$ w/o DS meeting you (and you know you “may” have fallen for it).
You can come up with another 1000 “what if” scenarios but will still end-up in stripper-quicksand – it appears you are not addressing the problem correctly and you will keep chasing your own tail until you do.
I wasn't too specific about what to text you. I just told her to periodically fuck with that John Smith ape so rick. rick, and I have some shits and giggles.
Want to know why rickdugan is being 100% straight with you? We all know that the truth will only make you more butthurt. So we still get our shits and giggles but the three of us don't need to make up lies.
It's the lion system for fucking with the minds of hairless apes. ROAR!
Papi, quicksand is a good analogy. Tempting to try and figure out what the fuck is going on. But the more I struggle to do that, the deeper I get.
Jack, kicking people when they're down, or trying to knock them down, is what this board is all about for some people. I suppose it makes them feel superior in some sick way. It's the worst characteristic of the board in my view, and it drives people off more than anything else.
And it's why more people don't share more genuinely and openly. They are intimidated by the assholes. I deal with similar assholes every day in my job so I'm more immune than most but even I get tired of the bullshit sometimes.
James, she (or whoever the fuck is texting me) said she was no longer stripping but that the stoppage was temporary. If that's true, and I no longer have any clue what's true and what's not, my guess is that she got suspended for underage drinking or coming to work high.
On the one hand, I agree. There's literally no motivation at all to discussing juicy details, being honest about a mistake or vulnerability, etc. And that means a higher amount of "fuck that faggot Rickyboy" posts relative to discussion that could be interesting. A couple of months ago a guy admitted to a sexual act most of us (me included) wouldn't dream of in a strip club, but hell, the post overall was about sexual acts at a strip club, which seems like a fun topic; instead, people acted like a bunch of little bitches and dogpiled him. I thought it was cool a guy was talking about actual sex with a stripper (even though one of the acts he did, I would not have. For that matter, I usually won't do BBBJ w/ a stripper either)
On the other hand, JS, the tone of responses to you has definitely gotten worse and worse. At first there was mild scepticism and light predictions of doom, balanced with a lot of well wishes etc. As you've made mistake after mistake after mistake -- and I have to hand it to you, you have giant balls for admitting it over and over again -- the tone has changed, and that's only partially because of the usual douchebags, even some of the guys who can carry a conversation seem to have given up on any kind of discussion and switched into "tough love" mode. If I were giving you advice, I'd def be in "Tough love" mode also, partially because I see you making some of the same mistakes I did, with my first post-separation ATF
Eventually he will come around but it's hard especially when the DS is playing "mind games." I've been there too, when you want to trust somebody, or see the "good" in them but they screw you every time, and the victim (JS in this case) has a hard time understanding why since in the past things were good and much different.
I have a hrs time understanding all this though since money was always involved. In the past when I had relationships like this with strippers money was not involved - and from experience - I'd rather have money involved instead of emotions, I can part with money a lot easier than my sanity. JS has mixed money (business transaction) and emotions together - which never ends pretty, he even said it himself in the past.
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But dude, your saga is far beyond a misstep, mistake, etc. You've posted countless threads about her and, by this point, she's done everything to you but send you a video of her, her girlfriends and her young stud lover laughing at your texts and making you the punchline of their jokes. When we suggest that you preserve what's left of your dignity and walk, we are not kicking you when you are down, but rather trying to share sound advice.
We've all been sucked in by a stripper to some degree or another at some point in our lives - it is almost a right of passage for any guy who spends enough time and money in strip clubs. At some point, a basic self preservation and/or self respect instinct kicks in and lets us know that something is wrong. For some reason though, that is just not happening for you.
Ok, now I'm really out and good luck.
Second, great advice. I completely agree that I should have the attitude that you describe.
Third, you sound normal. I hope you'll keep participating in the discussions.
Now, can we please let this issue die. I'm tired of writing about the fucking DS, and I know you guys are tired of hearing about her. It's over between me and her obviously so we can quit talking about it.
I'm off to buy some cute young pussy at a Tampa club. I suggest that you guys head to your local club and do the same.
Geez...
what a whiney little thin skinned bitch. nobody was trying to knock you down because you were never up. your story was the same old tired, sad, told a million times tale of a PL train wreck playing out in slow motion. people telling you there is no such thing as a “Dream Stripper” were like the audience watching a horror flick in the theater yelling at the screen “DON”T OPEN THE DOOR” even though they all know the dumbass is going to open the door. but oh no, that’s not you. you’re different.
“Dream Stripper”? ppfftttt. she was the run of the mill pig with lipstick, crack whore, standard stripper 70 – 75 IQ with a stable of johns fucking her for a lot less than you were paying her. the beauty queen was made up in your head, the sweet young innocence was made up in your head, the sexual exclusivity was made up in your head. she took your money and made a fool of you because just like most people on this board have done at one time or another, you practically begged her to.
and i told you so months ago without trying to “knock you down”. remember this:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
“August 8, 2015 • @JohnSmith69 “…she is totally unlike any dancer I can possibly imagine. But the job is slowly but surely having an impact on her. The changes are very subtle so far, but I recognize them. How much strip clubs will change her eventually remains to be seen.”
and so it begins...
spoiler alert: she isn’t the one who is changing. the fog of John’s dream is beginning to lift. if he is lucky he will awake relatively unscathed. if not his dream stripper may become a nightmare he is unable to ever awake from. be sure to tune in next month for the latest twists and turns of yet another PL drama brought to you by TUSCL”
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the same with the bullshit of kicking you while you’re down. grow the fuck up. of all people, Dougster and i both gave you good advice without animosity back on September 17:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
“September 17, 2015 • @Dougster " Dude - time to move the fuck on..."
okay, all kidding aside, but Dougster is 100% correct. this is the time when perhaps fairly normal men really earn the "PATHETIC" in PL.
look dude, she is a 19 y/o stripper/hooker or whatever you want to call her but she was never going to be yours. she did NOT have a special thing for you. it was a business arrangement and now it is over. DON'T get all creepy.
and don't take this personally because there are thousands of guys just like you every year who get all delusional and stalkerish. don't become one of them
forget about her. she was never what you pretended she was. there is no need to argue or disagree with me because i am right and anyone who knows anything knows that i am. move the fuck on”
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so now you can either grow the fuck up or you move into the basement with the psycho rapist nut job in San Jose. your choice