Is it even possible for a hot stripper to make great money being "clean"?
Clackport
Washington
I've dated a few strippers, and I thought I found the ones that weren't fucking and sucking and VIP, to an extent I was right. While I was dating one of them I found out that she let at least one person suck her tits and finger her in VIP. While she wasn't fucking and sucking, I was still crazy pissed and I broke it off with her.
What also inspired this question was knowing this stripper that doesn't do drugs, is not crazy, doesn't do extras ITC or OTC. She works in a non extras club. She's pretty much the most normal stripper you can find. She is in a long relationship with her boyfriend (she didn't tell me she was in a relationship, her friend did). However whenever I get dances with her she just lays back while I suck her titties, kiss her all over her body, suck her toes, sometimes kissing her on the lips, occasionally FIV. She really doesn't do anything, she just lets me do everything. I feel a little bad because her boyfriend is black like me, so I might be committing black on black crime (she is white). I respect her, but part of me wishes she wouldn't let me do what I do during the lapdances because she has a boyfriend and she supposedly loves him. That's how much respect I have fir her. She is my ATF though.
I know strippers want respect and don't wanna be called whores, but I don't think it's possible for a hot stripper to make good money while being clean all the way, especially in this economy. With the hot strippers a whole bunch of guys are going to be doing VIP with them (especially the older customers). The customers pay a lot for VIP, and they're expecting good value for that. They don't want just normal dances in the VIP. The girls have to bend their rules especially in this economy.
What do you TUSCLers think? Do you know hot strippers that make decent money not doing OTC, not doing extras, being all the way clean.
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I think her statement is a good rule of thumb.
Would you get dances from a dancer you could not touch when you can get dances from most other dancers in the same club and get more? I wouldn’t.
Just kidding. I'm sure it's not the same girl.
Usually the "clean girls" made money from PL's who were newbies, in love with them, and unaware the $300 they dropped on dances could get them stripper's who played. A friend of mine was "in love" with one of these girls (T) and probably came in on a reg basis spending $200 or more on dances, her sitting at his table. She really banked and I remember her and another girl (her frined and the gal D who was my atf of the time) asking me "We wonder when Mxxx (my friend) will run out of money." I was surprised and simply said "Oh the guy has 12 rent houses and is really loaded (his x wife got most in their divorce at the time) so he should shine a long time for you." Not long after he did find a girl who played who would come over to his house. This was the end of T getting his money. The so called "nice girls" ostracized her in the dressing room driving her to tears bc she played. Eventually Ricks South was shut down as it could not compete with the Ritz down I45 just a few miles.
At a club like Centerfolds or the Ritz the girls who don't play don't last.
You must be kidding. You might as well be doing it with a damned mannequin. Or rubber blowup doll. And you pay for this??
In general, if you are with someone who does high-pressure sales (hard sell), they will be a manipulative, dishonest person. They will do as they please and lie as they please. Unless they are the type to be submissive to someone they see as the superior hustler, and you are that superior hustler. But there are some dancers who are so hot and/or charming they can earn without hard sell.
and depends on what the local competition is like
If you're dating a stripper, how much difference does it really make if she's letting guys grab her titties or suck them a bit? If you aren't okay with dating a sex worker - don't do it. If you aren't okay with the reality that the sex worker your messing with might have a significant other, don't mess with her. I'm not saying there isn't a difference between a street walker, an escort, and a stripper - but really if you're dating one you're drawing a fairly arbitrary line about what's acceptable. Grabbing tits is okay but sucking isn't. Kissing is okay but no tongue. HJ's are fine but no BJ's.
You've been pissed at me before for comments like this to your posts, but if she lets you do it, she lets others do it.
In response to your question though, yes I know clean dancers who make money and I club in Detroit which is saying a lot. Clean girls here are few and far between. They probably clear around 500 a night and they are 10s to do so. If they hook the right regular, obviously they can make much more.
As far as your atf getting her titties sucked,believe me that's clean by todays standards.Spend a day at PP Cola you'll catch my drift.Until then let me buy you a big tall glass of shut the fuck up.
Obviously you don't feel bad enough. Hey, you shouldn't feel bad at all. You don't owe him nothing. If his girlfriend was a waitress and she was serving you burgers, would you feel bad? Probably not.
Another thing. Why should we even care if a woman wants to do extras or not? Why should that change or influence your opinion of her unless a woman taking control of her sexuality and using it to have power over men makes one feel insecure. I find that anytime a woman asserts herself in any aspect of life, most men tend to get nervous or have strange feelings.
I personally could care less if a dancer does or doesn't do extras. It's her life, her body, her job, and her prerogative to do what she likes as long as it doesn't harm another individual.
If you want to date clean girls, you will probably be deceived and disappointed by strippers. Since you're a young man, you should be able to find attractive non-strippers to date.
Duo- you're able to sell VIP's, and all guys are able to do is touch your tits and ass? I can't knock that on your end.
Shadow- I hear Cheetahs is a club with a whole bunch of hotties that just give air dances. However some reviewers say you can have a good time in VIP over there. I wonder what you can get in the VIP at Cheetahs?
Jackslash- I agree with you, maybe my definition of clean is too restrictive.
Slick- good stuff
Player11- I didn't get you in the beginning, but I'm starting to warm up to you. Keep on doing your thing!
Dolfan- good points
Lopaw- you always give insightful answers on my discussion threads. I appreciate that
Ididthisonce- I agree with you, I've been in that situation also with a ex GF that was a dancer. I thought she was clean, but she would get so many numbers from customers, and some of the customers would send explicit pics. It was a little unsettling for me.
Good insight from everyone else so far! Also I think we all know that girls might give air dances with the regular lapdances, but VIP is a whole different story.
To everyone else, I'm not trying to date a stripper. I've been there and done that, too many headaches.
I've always had a sense of humor. It isn't always appreciated, nor always revealed here.
I want some level of interaction with the dancer. If she is just going to lay there like a mannequin, I'll stay home with my computer - that's cheaper! LOL