Is it even possible for a hot stripper to make great money being "clean"?

no way to know for sure. the smarter the girl the more discreet she could be and possible no one could ever know

also if you think you are the only one who she is letting suck on her tits etc, there is no fucking way sorry guy

As our resident dancer duomaxwell put it once – “good girls don’t work in strip clubs”.

I think her statement is a good rule of thumb.

I would think is possible in clubs where contact is not allowed; o/w I don’t think she would be able to compete.

Would you get dances from a dancer you could not touch when you can get dances from most other dancers in the same club and get more? I wouldn’t.

I know one dancer who allows fondling of her tits and ass, but no touching the pussy and no extras. She's Chinese and a very hard worker in that she's either on the floor or in the Champagne Room. She says that she once did a HJ and felt awful about it and drew the line. She is gorgeous, sensuous, and provides a very enjoyable hour in the Champagne Room. There are others at the same club who don't allow extras and there's one I asked last week about extras. She said another hundred to touch above the waist. And there's kissing and there's KISSING. Most will give a peck on the cheek and that's it, while others will have their tongue in your mouth without another thought. Those who I know who are into DFK are also the gals who I know are good for BBBJCIM. No thanks.

its possiable for stripper to be clean & make money. I know a few strippers that fit in this catigory

I knew a hot dancer who was pretty hands off and only did one way dances. I usually only got table dances from her. I thought she worked Fridays but that was several months ago and she wasn't there the last Friday I visited.

I know of another dancer who let me do those things described of and I didn't bother to ask if her boyfriend would get upset. I merely assumed if she had a boyfriend, she would keep quiet about it because I wasn't saying anything. I think she liked me though because I had her personal phone number she usually only shared with her family. Her other phone had problems she told me. We never did hook up. However she is one dancer who never seems to disappear longer than a few months at a time.

Did you just break up with her, maybe I should ask her out?

Just kidding. I'm sure it's not the same girl.

Highly doubtful!

I make pretty good money and I don't do any of that stuff. I let guys touch my boobs and my butt and that's about it.

When I got my first SC VIP at Ricks South circa 2004 I saw a lot of hot strippers make big bucks being "clean." Still with Houston two way contact rules anything uncovered was fair game. Most girls would let you suck on their tits but the "nice girl" atf I had at the time, a college girl who did not play would allow only touching her tits.

Usually the "clean girls" made money from PL's who were newbies, in love with them, and unaware the $300 they dropped on dances could get them stripper's who played. A friend of mine was "in love" with one of these girls (T) and probably came in on a reg basis spending $200 or more on dances, her sitting at his table. She really banked and I remember her and another girl (her frined and the gal D who was my atf of the time) asking me "We wonder when Mxxx (my friend) will run out of money." I was surprised and simply said "Oh the guy has 12 rent houses and is really loaded (his x wife got most in their divorce at the time) so he should shine a long time for you." Not long after he did find a girl who played who would come over to his house. This was the end of T getting his money. The so called "nice girls" ostracized her in the dressing room driving her to tears bc she played. Eventually Ricks South was shut down as it could not compete with the Ritz down I45 just a few miles.

At a club like Centerfolds or the Ritz the girls who don't play don't last.

Sure. In low mileage areas it's certainly possible, especially if they work hard.

My long tem S.O. was a dancer. The tough part of the relationship to me was the damn phone and the messages received while she was home. I understood the game of fantasy where a dancer makes the customer think he is special, she had always been "clean" when dancing for me but inside I always felt that extras were at least on an occasion being done for others. What made me suspect this was that she would send them pics of herself on the phone. It is a tough road buddy if you are looking for a committed relationship. Dating strippers are fun if there is not a commitment and they are not too deep into your wallet. My 2 cents

What I have found is that the hotter the stripper, the more likely she is to have strict "clean" rules since she feels that she can get by on looks alone. And that is true, to a certain extent. What I noticed at one upscale club was the the 8's, 9's & 10's were selling dances, but usually one or two from a customer. And if that customer was with a group of people it didn't take long for word to get around that she was LM, so no one else bothered getting any dances with her. Meanwhile the UHM 5, 6 & 7's were consistently busy making more money in the multiple dance VIP areas.

"However whenever I get dances with her she just lays back..."

You must be kidding. You might as well be doing it with a damned mannequin. Or rubber blowup doll. And you pay for this??

So when you ordered your girlfriend what she could or could not do with customers, did you also say "I'll try to work some extra hours to make up for the money"? Or, "we can cut back on our spending"? I'm not saying it's OK that she lied to you. But everything's a 2-way street, you have to be considerate and do right by her if you expect the chick to do right by you.

In general, if you are with someone who does high-pressure sales (hard sell), they will be a manipulative, dishonest person. They will do as they please and lie as they please. Unless they are the type to be submissive to someone they see as the superior hustler, and you are that superior hustler. But there are some dancers who are so hot and/or charming they can earn without hard sell.

depends on your definition of "great money"

and depends on what the local competition is like

Well if she "just lays back" I would just want to feel her then and maybe get on top of her......labia would be parted.

Possible, yes. Common, no. I can think of at least two clubs nearby where perfectly clean dancers can pull in 500 a night averages giving moderate mileage dances - meaning no kissing/sucking anything and no ones hands go down anyones pants. They've gotta have every other part of the package though - remarkable looks, great personality, willingness to work hard, etc.

If you're dating a stripper, how much difference does it really make if she's letting guys grab her titties or suck them a bit? If you aren't okay with dating a sex worker - don't do it. If you aren't okay with the reality that the sex worker your messing with might have a significant other, don't mess with her. I'm not saying there isn't a difference between a street walker, an escort, and a stripper - but really if you're dating one you're drawing a fairly arbitrary line about what's acceptable. Grabbing tits is okay but sucking isn't. Kissing is okay but no tongue. HJ's are fine but no BJ's.

Ranukam,

You've been pissed at me before for comments like this to your posts, but if she lets you do it, she lets others do it.

In response to your question though, yes I know clean dancers who make money and I club in Detroit which is saying a lot. Clean girls here are few and far between. They probably clear around 500 a night and they are 10s to do so. If they hook the right regular, obviously they can make much more.

That's what the Atlanta Cheetah is all about. That is why I don't go there.

Ranky "black on black crime",you make me laugh.Do you know the leading killer of black men 18 to 25 years old is black men 18 to 25 years old. As far as your atf getting her titties sucked,believe me that's clean by todays standards.Spend a day at PP Cola you'll catch my drift.Until then let me buy you a big tall glass of shut the fuck up.

I would imagine at some of the SC tourist traps in Vegas this would be possible if she hustled. No fucking way in Phoenix unless she was a 10 and hustled really hard. Not saying she couldn't do okay but it would be hard to pull down 500 - 700 per night without at least some nipple action.

Only the 9s and 10s....8s and down no way

" I feel a little bad because her boyfriend is black like me, so I might be committing black on black crime (she is white)."

Obviously you don't feel bad enough. Hey, you shouldn't feel bad at all. You don't owe him nothing. If his girlfriend was a waitress and she was serving you burgers, would you feel bad? Probably not.

Another thing. Why should we even care if a woman wants to do extras or not? Why should that change or influence your opinion of her unless a woman taking control of her sexuality and using it to have power over men makes one feel insecure. I find that anytime a woman asserts herself in any aspect of life, most men tend to get nervous or have strange feelings.

I personally could care less if a dancer does or doesn't do extras. It's her life, her body, her job, and her prerogative to do what she likes as long as it doesn't harm another individual.

I think your definition of "clean" is too restrictive. I would say a clean dancer is one who does not do BJ and FS. Who cares about HJ and titty sucking? Under my definition I think you could find a fair number of clean dancers who make decent money.

If you want to date clean girls, you will probably be deceived and disappointed by strippers. Since you're a young man, you should be able to find attractive non-strippers to date.

Juice 69 you are so full of crap...I am calling you out.

Shit !

In Columbus dancers keep their nipples covered with pasties and they still make a decent living. The clubs are upscale and Columbus has a large white collar work force. Then there are the Akron clubs that have no rules but the clubs are dives and a large blue collar population. The Columbus dancers I know are doing alright while the Akron ones are living the low life.

Alucard- Lol, you're actually starting to get a little funny.

Duo- you're able to sell VIP's, and all guys are able to do is touch your tits and ass? I can't knock that on your end.

Shadow- I hear Cheetahs is a club with a whole bunch of hotties that just give air dances. However some reviewers say you can have a good time in VIP over there. I wonder what you can get in the VIP at Cheetahs?

Jackslash- I agree with you, maybe my definition of clean is too restrictive.

Slick- good stuff

Player11- I didn't get you in the beginning, but I'm starting to warm up to you. Keep on doing your thing!

Dolfan- good points

Lopaw- you always give insightful answers on my discussion threads. I appreciate that

Ididthisonce- I agree with you, I've been in that situation also with a ex GF that was a dancer. I thought she was clean, but she would get so many numbers from customers, and some of the customers would send explicit pics. It was a little unsettling for me.

Good insight from everyone else so far! Also I think we all know that girls might give air dances with the regular lapdances, but VIP is a whole different story.

ranukam - a Cheetah VIP dance doesn't even equal a table dance at Follies.

Shadow- so with the table dances at Follies I assume it's two way contact. With the table dances do you get to suck tits and FIV at Follies? If so I have to get to Follies ASAP. Only 10 bucks for those dances.

To everyone else, I'm not trying to date a stripper. I've been there and done that, too many headaches.

I too know three dancers that have had long careers and aren't extras dancers. I've made reference to them before. Two started at age 18 and have been dancing most of their adult lives since. One is now 35 and the other is 42. (I still see her. She's the only one of the three in Seattle.) The third didn't start dancing until age 28 and is now 45.

ranukam - with the right dancer just about anything is possible.

Dallas in the late 1980s and 1990s had clubs like the Lodge where the contact was minimal and the girls were super hot. They could make good money without doing extras. Now, it seems that extras are more common which makes it more difficult to make good money without doing a little extra. So, my answer is it is possible, but the girls has to really have the personality to connect with the larger spending men that expect less.

@ranukam ROTFLOL. 'found the ones that don't do extras' yet she was dating a customer and you broke it off for her letting a guy grope her. What are you in High School??

FInd out if the guy is a geeky virgin who was bullied in high school? I'm pretty sure while their dumb and seeing some ass for the first time, they'll give up their rent to dance in front of them. But I'm getting these "clean" girls hopes up.

"Alucard- Lol, you're actually starting to get a little funny"

I've always had a sense of humor. It isn't always appreciated, nor always revealed here.

I want some level of interaction with the dancer. If she is just going to lay there like a mannequin, I'll stay home with my computer - that's cheaper! LOL

I am a geek. It's great if a stripper is down with P4P. But it's very unsexy to me to wonder if she who is grinding my pencil may be dead before I see her again. I prefer a clean dance over FS from a girl who's life is complete train wreck.

ibbaicnl, but you're OBVIOUSLY not a virgin nor are you dumb enough to spend your mortgage payment on dances alone. You've grown up young man.