ethical question
carolynne
The bigger you are the better
i'm in hawaii right now accompanying a guy on a business trip. since he's paying for everything, and i do mean everything, is it wrong for me to do the guys i meet at the beach or pool while i'm waiting for him to conclude his business during the day? signed, puzzled in paradise
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be completely safe, he doesn't deserve an STI for his money.
be completely available to him. No being too tired by the time it is his turn.
Or would that be like a 8AMer EST?
Calling 5-0. Book'em Danno
If I caught you fucking other guys,
1. It would be your last trip with me, and
2. You would find your own room for the rest of the trip.
I don't pay escorts to fuck other guys while I am out of the room whether its for 1 hour or 8 hours. Unless this guy knows what you really do and doesn't give a shit, then you owe him loyality while on the "trip".
Hawaii is where people go to get lei'd.....so lay back and enjoy.
warmest regards,
Hawaiian Lei's, Inc.
In my case, a dancer thought that she had me wrapped around her little finger until she did something similar. I went from spending over $500 a month on her every single month to spending $0 on her. Unless he's Ok with it, I wouldn't risk it.
Yup. I agree. Admitting you have a customer "wrapped around your finger" is the worst thing a dancer can do. I too went from spending mega bucks to zero when I found out a dancer said that of me.
If I discovered you were doing this it would be a definite sign of disrespect. This trip would be the last dollar you'd ever see from me.
It's amazing to me how many strippers seem to have this attitude about disrespecting their best regular customers.
How about you show your customer the same respect he shows you?
I think there is a difference between an unwise business practice and something that is unethical. In this case, I would say it clearly has nothing to do with ethics and is all a question of whether it is a good business practice or not, which is evaluated by her probability of getting caught, loss of future income, etc., which I think she is in the best position to judge.
And if your money man paid upfront I really think he may not approve of you daytime fun. But hell, I'm not there. To each his/her own.
So what were the terms of your agreement (you don't need to give dollar amounts although many of us would love to know the details)? Did he say, I'll cover all travel, hotel and meal expenses but no daily fee? Or did he say, in addition to covering all of your expenses, I'll pay your full day rate for escort services?
If the agreement was not very explicit, then his expectations might be very different from your expectations. In that case, you'd be wise to clarify the terms and expectations of your arrangement before doing something that might ruin a good business deal (including prospects for future business) or otherwise piss him off.
Thanks for posing an interesting question!
IMHO, yes!
here's how it goes... he usually has a working dinner, and gets back to the hotel around 8 or 9. i'm all dolled up, waiting for him, and we go at it hard, because he needs the release. then we have a few drinks and relax, chat about the day. when he's wound down we'll do it again, this time long and slow. when he wakes up he usually wants to do it again - usually a quickie in the shower. even though he satisfies me very well it leaves me wanting more. and now i've got to wait around the whole day? you guys are so cruel...
But why not ask the client? Personally, I'd be offended if you did it without asking. However, if you asked my response would probably be that as long as I didn't see direct evidence of it I couldn't care less what you do while I'm not around. Your response indicates he wouldn't notice (or already isn't noticing) - so I'd say close the loop and ask. Maybe not direct "can I fuck other guys while you're working" but "do you mind if I take some time to do my own thing while your out" kind if thing. If you think he'd be upset just asking about it, I think you've got your answer...
With respect to him partaking in other entertainment while expecting you to be exclusive - as silly as it sounds that would be my expectation. While there is no expectation and likely no illiuesions of general exclusivity I think there is when your on the clock, regardless of how long that clock is or activity for that time.
He is paying you to fuck *him* - I would not think he is paying you to fuck other guys.
My 2¢!
A few years back I was at an auto dealership looking at new cars. I test drove a vehicle and was probably minutes away from telling the salesman that I want the car. But he saw someone else walk in the door and instead of closing the deal, he handed me his card and said call me and rushed to the other people.
I walked to the dealership across the street and drove away in a new car that day.
The OP needs to read this.
1. Is a dumbass with lots of money.
2. Knows what you are and doesn't give a shit, or
3. Doesn't know shit about you, but will soon find out.
Even Julia Roberts waited for Richard Gere and he only paid her a fee for the week. And she was just a common street whore.
Apparently you are no Julia Roberts.
And I guess it worked since she got about 60 responses on a slow day.
I agree 100% this was a bullshit post...but this hypothetical situation did create an interesting discussion. And conducted in a polite manner, I might add.
Just a note - really rich self-made guys do not get rich by being stupid and naive.
While the ethical question of you wandering is an interesting one (and one which you've apparently resolved by the simple expedient of asking), it's one that can't be answered without first knowing whether or not there is an implied contract. You've settled that question, and fortunately for you, it was settled in your favor.
Personally, if it was me in place of your patron, and this was in fact a business trip where I was working for a good portion of the day, I would have settled it before ever going. Obviously, you're a horny little slut who can't keep her legs closed for more than a few minutes at a time (and there's absolutely *nothing* wrong with that; seriously, not kidding about that), so as long as they're open for *me* (since I am, after all, the one funding this little excursion), and you use protection and things remain clean and you remain responsive, I wouldn't have had a problem with it.
It *was* an ethically sound decision for you to clear the matter up, even if you did it as an afterthought.
Assuming this isn't all bullshit, of course. :)
gmd, thanks for the legal opinion. do u charge by the hour? perhaps there's some way i can work off my obligation...
i ended up renting a tent cabana on the beach (with my dime, before you all get up in arms), and having an incredible time. when my patron arrived back at the room he said thinking about me getting banged by someone else was making him so hot he could hardly stand it, and he really f***ed me with more passion than ever. i just saw him *off* for the day... i am really looking forward to the rest of this trip!!!
What about the beach, the scenic helicopter rides, the hike to a volcano. If all you wanted was sex 4 or 5 times, you could have hung out on a few street corners in Detroit.
motorhead, what's the temp right now in detroit? anyone lying out in the sun wearing a bikini? you hear the sound of the surf? feel the sand between your toes? the ocean breeze on your face? don't think i'm not enjoying other things on this trip... besides, i've been to hawaii a number of times so i don't have to do all the first-time tourist stuff. now it's time to head down to the beach and see if i can find some handsome guy to rub lotion on my back.
I think Carol is at home, bored, and trying to amuse herself at our expense via SS. But at least she made it somewhat interesting.
Juice claims he has another screen identity that we won't guess. But I think I did.
Juice is Carolynne. This is one funny thread! Kudos juiceman!
In many cases, I think it's a case of "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" (though the currently accepted meaning of that phrase is *not* what Shakespeare meant when he wrote it; the word "protest" apparently meant something different in his time).
It's kind of like the story of the vociferously anti-gay people who turn out to be gay.
Bear in mind that I'm sure that at least *one* female poster was a man, but I don't have any proof of any others.