Improve Your Strip Club Experience: Tips from a Dancer
brandyjane
1. No means no! I cannot express this enough. If I say no to something that's what I mean, and you should never ask me why I won't do something you're requesting, because that reasoning is really none of your business when the answer is no. If I want more money to do what you are asking for, I will say that.
2. It is extremely rude not to tip for a lap dance or VIP and I will tell the other dancers. Now, if you are really nice the whole time and I can actually see that you are physically out of money that is one thing, but just being really rude about it is another. No dancers get paid by their clubs, and we always pay the club part of what we make on dances. At my current club this fee can sometimes be more than the dance you did, depending on which dance you're paying the fee on. Anyway, just give the girl a tip! Can you imagine how disrespected you would feel if you just spent 15 or more minutes giving a guy a good time, and a boner, and then he doesn't even feel you deserve a tip? Think about it, you tip a waitress and all she does is bring you food, and she gets paid hourly! Dancers don't!
3. Older guys: If I say I don't like something in bed (in my case it's getting oral) it's not because "I haven't had anyone experienced enough to make it good" it's because "I don't like a wet slobbery nasty tongue all over my pussy". A lot of older guys can be very condescending to the dancers and its a huge turn-off
4. Groups of dudes: WHY do you let your friends go out wearing/acting like/smelling like that? I once had to give a dance to a bachelor and his friend paid for it, meaning I hadn't even got close enough to the bachelor to check him out yet. When I got him in the back he reeked so bad of BO that I couldn't even give him a proper dance. It was so terrible I could barely touch him and I almost ended the dance early. I had to tell his friend the problem because they can't continue to take him out like that and because I was so embarrassed by the sub-par dance I had to give, I wanted the friends to know the reason!
5. If you don't like something a dancer is doing, politely tell her! I mean for things like, sitting at your table too long, rubbing your nipples too hard.... rejection is the name of our game and if the girl can't handle it or even instruction well she should get out of the business! I have no problem when a customer guides me on what he wants and I even appreciate it so I can give him a better experience and usually reap better tips in return!
Thank you for taking the time to read my rantings!
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I'd say to brandyjane - thanks for letting us know your thoughts.
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Maybe strippers should tip those of us who smell good?
When you get paid $2.13 an hour. You can then make that complaint.
Number 4 maybe you should douse yourself in more whore juice perfume and rotate through them so you dont get used to just one. Sorry that was a passive aggressive dig at your coworkers. If a guy is stinky then give the jackass a subpar dance fuck him. Or charge him more for being a dirty bastard then jiggle, take his money, and leave.
point 5: If a dancer is doing something I dont like it is too late, I am done. The only thing I will tell you is to fuck off. Sure you cant please them all, but stick doing what you do. Two people sitting there faking it is a waste of time and money.
Point 3: Guys are simple creatures not to many of us are nearly as eloquent as strippers when it comes to chit chat. So in the future when an older guy says do you like oral? cut him off at the pass by saying hell quote me on this
"Its not like I haven't had my fair share, Its just well I find the prospect of a tongue moving around just plain icky and therefore can not relax enough to enjoy it."
or this would kill it too
I got mad warts and herpes and it always gives me a flair up when someone goes down on me.
Be cleaver us guys are easily dissuaded when dealing with superior language skills. My guess is he is feeling you out to see if you will be up for more; I also guess this occurs before the no means no stage in the chain of events.
and Lastly my addressing of point number 1, No Never means no it always means Not right now, not with you, or I dont have enough information to say yes. And to complain about the why/ why not If because I dont want to isnt enough you have 2 options One is to get up and leave two make shit up be mean about it or be nice about it hell I just thought of another way to kill the old guys line of questioning.
Old guy: You like oral?
Stripper: giving yes, getting hell no!
Old guy: You just havent had a silver fox mustache ride!
Stripper: On the contrary my step dad used to give them to me all the time from ages 14 to 17 that is until the police took him away and put him in prison.
LOOOOK it totally works! He isnt going to ask you about it any more and he will now take no for an answer and the best part is it was allllllll bulllllshit!
As for the tipping remarks, the dancer is way out of line. Tipping is reserved for exceptional service and TOTALLY at the discretion of the PAYING customer. You are not entitled to a tip for any dance you give. If you are not satisfied with the price you receive for dances (after any house cut) then find another club or profession.
While I always enjoy the input form dancers on TUSCL I don't have much use for those who don't understand what "customer service" is. Requiring a tip is certainly not good customer service.
On the subject of tipping, I'm not a tipper either. I feel that $20. for two and a half minutes of fun is plenty to pay for entertainment. If I liked the dance I just got, I'll get more than one. If I really liked the dancer, I'll become a regular of hers. If she asks for a tip, it'll likely be the last time I ever get a dance with her. It's her choice as to whether she wants a tip and sees me for the last time, or develops me as a regular, and makes far more money over the long haul, than the one tip she attempted to get me to give her.
For best mileage during dances, you should always take a shower right before going out. Put on some nice, but not too intrusive cologne and you should be set.
I tip well for VIP Extras, NOT Lap Dances.
A waitress gets a tip based on the atmosphere and experience she provides us as the middle-man when we buy a service. Patrons don't tip the owner, they tip the waitress.
A dancer provides the service to patrons. The dancer is not the middle-man like a waitress is. The dancer is the owner of the service. The club (your cut that goes out to the manager, etc) is just like the landlord. You pay your fee to provide your service in the building.
And strippers...its not that simple. Guys tip based on whether they feel like you went above and beyond the call of duty. If you air dance or lecture him about touching rules or give off the vibe that you'd rather be somewhere else...don't expect tips. You're selling a fantasy, whether extras are involved or not. The strippers that have made the most off me are not always the ones that do the most...but the ones who make me feel like they actually "like" me. Sell the fantasy.
I never tip for dances either. The cheapest dances around are $20 per song, and some clubs are more than that. If you feel you deserve more than $20 per 4 to 5 minutes, you might want to re-assess. If you sell 3 dances per hour (and if you can't then you should find another job), then you're making $60 per hour. If you work a light shift, say only 6 hours, that's $360. Ok, you have to pay a house fee, tip out the DJ, etc. Total, at different clubs, that amount can vary. Or maybe you have to give $5 out of every dance to the club. If you have a very high house fee/tip-out, maybe you're paying $100/night. That still leaves you with $260 for the night. (Even if you had to pay $5 per dance, you're still left with over $200, even after tip-outs.) And that's assuming you only work for 6 hours, so you've got two hours of dead time built into an 8-hour shift. You're making over $1000 per week! And the math above is all based on a very relaxed, easy night, or very slow business. And you're complaining about no tip?
Don't get me wrong, I've seen dancers who don't sell as many dances as I've described above. There are a few possible reasons for that.
1) Too lazy to do it - Ok, try working at your job
2) Not attractive enough - Ok, making lots of money is possible for a hot woman, but if you're not hot, it won't work. Give up the fantasy & find a different job.
3) There just isn't enough business at the club - Ok, go elsewhere or recognize that there isn't enough demand in your area as compared to the supply. If you're the one not making the money, then see #1 or #2, above.
And one more thing... Don't try to make your point within earshot of the waitress you talked about. She might claw your eyes out.
As far as your calculations go, who are you to tell me what is enough money? Your saying charging over $20 and the girl should re-assess then you go into your shitty calculations about how much we should be taking in. If you don't want to pay a certain amount, find a girl who charges what you want to pay. There are plenty of cheap dances out there.
But, some points raised have some discussion merit, here goes:
#2- "Extremely rude not to tip" ? Huh ?? IMO, tipping is discretionary, not an entitlement. Buying dances beyond one, and paying standard lapdance price for extra dances (be they 1, 10 more, whatever) is a tip in that dancer gets extra business. In most businesses, buying greater quantitities of something would result in buyer getting a volume discount. To wit, buying a gallon of milk would result in a lower per pint cost vs someone who just bought a pint. Likewise, a group booking a convention would get a lower per room rate than a single Joe Schmoe walking off the street booking a single room for just himself.
Plus, the conservative $60/hr figure quoted in example is more than a lot of people in "staraight jobs" make. Plumbers, A/C repairmen, freelance mechanics are often independent contractors like dancers are- do you tip above the standard rate for a job they do ?
#4- A good point even for individual clubgoers. Common sense hygiene goes a long way. Bad dancer odors is rarely a problem. If anything, dancer overkill in perfume, body rouge(sp?? I've had more than a few shirts smeared with pinkish body paste, whatever)is more of a problem than poor hygiene in dancers.
#5- Glad to hear you're coachable, not so with many dancers, unfortunately. Many are set in their ways, or just too mechanical, period.
The exception would be a club where dancers aren't permitted to set their own dance prices. There's a club in Portland that has signs posted with the various dance prices plus a sign that says "See the management if you're asked for more than the posted prices." In a place like that I could understand a dancer being disappointed if she provided exceptional service and didn't receive a tip.
But as dtek pointed out, it'd be one thing to agree on a price in advance, and another to expect the tip. I mentioned above that I never tip. But several months ago, I did spend some time with a dancer in the VIP, even though she charged more than the normal rate for that club, because we agreed on it in advance, and I was really hot for her. Brandyjane simply needs to be honest and up-front with her customers, and honest with herself about whether or not she wants to be in the business.
Im not sure why dtek felt the need to explain to me what all the other guys on this thread meant. I wasnt addressing them in my comment. If I had an opinion or a question about what anyone on the thread was saying about tipping, I would have addressed it.
Most stripclub goers (including some who can "carry the freight") expect value for the cash outlay. Just don't expect us to fall for the upcharge when your sugar daddy well runs dry.
Oh, and I wouldn't expect "you" to fall for anything Minnow. I mean, you seem way to smart for that. (Readers to guess at my use of sarcasm )
1) Chose which dancers you get LDs from wisely
2) Bring LOTS and LOTS of $$$$$
But what I find a tiny bit interesting is Stiletto's comment saying she charges $30 for a lap dance. Really? Can't really tell from her photos, but if any of you guys in the northwest know of her, is she hot? Cuz from what little I could see in the photos she ain't all that. Looks like a fairly average blonde. But I could be wrong.
But she seems like a sharp lady. Though I think the line of wimps posting "nose up her ass", sniveling praises in her profile is kinda funny. Geez, guys, show a little self respect.
Anyway, good for her if she can get guys to pay $30 for 3 minutes with her. Personally, I think any guy who pays $30 for a freakin' lap dance should be brought up on charges of stupidity. Well, unless it was an insanely hot dancer, and the dance lasted 10 minutes, and she jacked you off the whole time.
you are providing a service you arent entitled to any extra i give my barber a tip because he does a good job. however i dont give my mechanic a tip for fixing my car.. he did what he was suppose to do .
no is rare that it means no ... i find it funny that she wants to be rude to the customer that is giving her money out THEIR hard earned money but expects them to approach her and be polite when shes doing something wrong.. hopefully she gets together or chooses not to be a dancer anymore.. id hate to run into her
Hold on...
Bucca, I just noticed your avatar or whatever, the picture of the chick's ass in a schoolgirl miniskirt. Damn that's hot. Now that would be awesome getting a nasty lapdance from that, especially if she had no panties. And one of those tight, button down shirts, kind see thru with no bra. Damn.
What were we talking about?
As far as being hot, there are alot of people who would call me hot but alot of people think Brad Pitt is hot and I wouldn't touch his ugly ass with a ten foot pole. Everyones idea of hot is different.
As far as the high dance prices, I rarely get someone who disputes my dance prices. I have a few customers that think they are too cheap, but they like to spoil and spend money. I also cater more to the GFE crowd. Some will pay me just to talk to them. That clientele tends to spend more money.
Though if you have any shots of yourself in stilettos and a fishnet bodystocking, with the face blurred out, that would be cool......... :)
But really, you don't like Brad Pitt? I thought it was instant cream for just about all women. Anyway, probably same with me thinking Angelina is a skinny, scraggy, scarecrow lookin' pale hag. Pretty face with all the makeup, though.
Oh, and you have "clientele"? That leaves me out. I'm not that high class.
Ranukam- I have no doubt I've met Dougster but I'm not sure if he actually knows who I am. I dont know who he is but if he and I frequent the same clubs, chances are we have run into eachother. I dont care what he thinks of my looks. Id be more concerned about if he had a good experience with his dances. Good looking girls dont always give great dances. I would like to think I put the extra effort in to make a person feel special.
Body tastes are so different though. If you like spinners, you wont like me. I weigh 127 lbs and I have natural D breasts and a 24 inch waist. I have hips and an ass and very fit legs. I could probably crush someone with them. Ill never be 90 lbs. Id look near death.
I'm starting to have a strange feeling I might know she is. One of the clubs she has reviewed I am a frequent visitor at that club, and her description of herself matches to a tee one of the girls working at that club. From what I can see in her pics, they are eeriely similar to that girl in the club. If she's who I think she is, I could definitely see her charging 30 bucks for a lap dance and guys paying her just to talk to them because that girl is an absolute 10. Even if she wasn't your type, you couldn't deny her hotness. Then again it might just be a coincidence....
Yeah, she sounds okay, especially with the "fit legs" and tiny waist (I am so into really hot, toned legs and high heels...). But a "10"?
Guess I'll never know. But anyway, you guys who pay $30 for a lap dance need to get a smack upside the head. It's just wrong.
And Stiletto, how 'bout just a good photograph of your legs in a pair of high heels. :)
I'm gonna get a picture, I'm gonna get a picture !!!!!
Kinda like when I was a little kid at Christmas time. I'm like, jumping up and down and stuff. But instead of a radio controlled fire truck, it's a picture of a hot girl's legs. Hot legs are just so much better.
Although, those remote controlled helicopters you see in the mall are pretty cool....
Naw, legs are better.
Thank you Stiletto, for even considering. That's very nice of you. (BTW, I'm batting my eyelashes looking real humble and cute......)
Don't be so dismissive of the intelligence of guys willing to pay more than $20/song for a lap dance. My first lap dance experience was in a now closed club in Stiletto25's stomping grounds - Honey's in Everett. The price was $40/song. Much more than a simple dance was offered (and accepted) for that $40 fee. That experience got me hooked on this hobby. I have since paid much more and also much less than $20 for lap dances.
Now, I am an ill-educated old hillbilly from the gritty 'tools' of the oil patch. And, at my elderly age, I am smart enough to recognize the time-value equation of money spent. For a 63 year old bugger like me with death staring back at me from the mirror, a $50 lap dance can be stunning value.
In LA there are a bunch of high mileage lap dance clubs for $10 and $15 each, and they're doing a good business. I'm the kind of guy who thinks we should all decide to patronize the high value clubs and tell the others to fuck off. But if the laps are worth it, like some clubs here where they're 3 for $40 or whatever and very high mileage, then fine.
I go for value. If it's expensive, but high value, then fine. If it's expensive, and no value, move on.
I am 100% that I know it is here because one of her stories on here matched exactly something she told me on person an that no other dancer told me.
Anyways a pretty decent person, and I don't want to blow my anonymity which is why I have no desire to get into a big conflict with her here or in person and end up with MAD.
(Now the few not so good things about her I will keep to myself.)
Hope that helps.
That's just IMO.
I may tip on a FS / CFS extra if the gal got me off real good. I might negotiate the extra for $160 ("I want sex, my offer is $160.") Then if its really good and she gets me off I give her $200.
I may tip on a FS / CFS extra if the gal got me off real good. I might negotiate the extra for $160 ("I want sex, my offer is $160.") Then if its really good and she gets me off I give her $200.
You can only get VIP membership when you post a "review" for a club. Not articles.
at the same time, guys, i think what brandy is saying is that if you treat her the way she wants to be treated, she'll treat you the way you want to be treated. so, it really is about improving your experience, too.
There are many shades of 'no'. From 'ehh', to 'I'm not supposed to do that', over 'the club does not allow', to the pertty clear ones.
For me, it's all about 'treat the ladies well', so you will be treated well.