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3 years ago
Ive hung out with customers outside of the club, but only in public. One taught me how to play poker at a casino and let me gamble his money. Another took me out for dinner. My favorite was when a customer and I went barhopping in downtown Detroit and I had to drive him home because he got too drunk and let me keep his car for the night. I make it clear beforehand they should not expect anything sexual. Sometimes they try to call my bluff though and then I leave. When they ask for otc with more, I tell them no because I don't want to die. And then lecture them about how Johns murder girls and offer to pull up articles about it for them. They're usually taken aback by it, but the reality is it does happen. Sure, sexy time otc grants more privacy, but there's less guarantee of payment otc and no security or bouncers to call for if the customer is sexually assaulting or hurting me.
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3 years ago
The Hank jr, Billy Joel, and jukebox shit is stupid. Just don't. 👍
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3 years ago
I haven't been back here in about a month. A friend tells me there is a group of girls from Vegas working now who are pretty vile toward house dancers. I'm not sure if they're permanent or traveling. Maybe this had something to do with the vibe OP felt?
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3 years ago
Regarding the shifts "policy", LS has three of them. Day shift, mid shift, and night shift.
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3 years ago
If something like this ever happens to you again, just go to the bouncer and ask him how many songs you were back there for. The songs that are $25 each and you are only obligated to pay for the amount of songs you were in VIP for. Most likely, you guys didn't do $300 worth of "dances". I'm sorry you got ripped off and, in a way, sexually assaulted. But if there ever is a next time, you could just go right to the bouncer with her and pay her whatever you owe her in front of the bouncer. That will most likely shut her up and less likely to get ripped off. Remember, the bouncers and managers can't admit to any knowledge of what goes on in VIP to customers regardless of how much she bitches in front of them about maybe doing extras. Hopefully that makes sense.
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3 years ago
I'm not going to argue with an anonymous commenter who writes as though he's above dancers. So, Papi, stfu. You speculate far too much and your assumptions show exactly how you feel toward dancers. Especially in regard to this poorly written review.
Literally everyone knows FC is the most expensive club in Michigan. My attack at him whining over $300 derives from that. If this dumb fuck didn't know FC was so expensive, he should have done more research. Perhaps his budget is better suited to Bogart's and the plethora of STDs that coinside from merely walking into that brothel.
As of Thai, good for her for scamming this jackass. He deserved it with how entitled he makes himself seem. Thai won, he lost. And he's going to continue to lose with his attitude. I will say Thai does go to VIP often. She has never skipped a stage rotation that I'm aware of. I've never talked to her either. We all keep to ourselves at FC. But she does keep busy and she does engage with every customer.
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3 years ago
^it's within three songs. I don't know what the day shift skip fees are or how they are run. At night, if our name is not called yet in the rotation, our skip fee is $50. If our name has already been called, the skip fee is $100. If we miss stage, it is also $100.
These are not new things and have always been in place.
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3 years ago
@wildrover, thank you! Very few of you guys understand that. OP sounds like an entitled baby. Glad she dipped on him.
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3 years ago
1. Why does every reviewer write that there's a pole at the first stage position? There clearly isn't.
2. She may have been on stage shortly before you guys went up, but how many songs were you there discussing VIP for? And how many stage positions were being run at the time? If the DJ is running three to four stage positions, that is a large chunk of time alone until we're done with rotation. On Fridays and Saturdays, there's a fifth stage usually open, too. So let's just assume that it was a four song stage rotation. Each song is usually 3 to 4 minutes. Then we have to wait sometimes a minute or two for the next answer to get to stage because she wasn't listening and we can't move positions until we are replaced. And you sound somewhat picky (and cheap complaining over $300), so I'm assuming it was probably two songs worth of discussion for you guys to go to VIP. Some dancers and some customers want to use the restroom before heading to VIP as well so I don't know if you guys did that or not. But then you have to go up the stairs and then wait on the bouncer if he's not at his little kiosk already.
Maybe next time, unless you're still too broke to visit, I suggest being more patient and teleporting straight to vip. It would save you so much time and then you would have far less to bitch and whine about.
And if getting your rocks off was such a big deal for you, you could have considered paying her skip fee. We don't get automatically skipped on stage for being in VIP.
These are completely rhetorical points for you to think over regarding your critiques, too. 😊
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3 years ago
Adamxz, tell us you're better than everyone else and a whoreaphobe without telling us. Please.
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3 years ago
Why doesn't matter what it means? If you want to bang her and she consents, just bang her and put on a rubber. Respect her boundaries.
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3 years ago
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ilbbaicnlKeep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
SAFETY. Some men can become incredibly stalkerish and jealous. At least at the club, I have bouncers to call out for if I need them. In nearly all of the dancer Facebook groups I'm in, I see postings of missing escorts and dancers who did out of the club.
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3 years ago
A lot of girls fake what they show on social media. There are girls I work with who will post stacks of money at the bank that they are trying to deposit. Clearly it's from multiple days, but they claim it's from one night. And they do the same where they post the money they made in one night, where it's a combination of multiple girls getting tipped on stage and then having to divide the tips. Someone will take a photo showing over $1,000 in singles and posted on social media to lead everyone to think it's all their money when it's not.
A lot of the bragging you see from strippers on social media is fake and complete bullshit. They do it for clout and to make themselves seem and feel more superior to other dancers.
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3 years ago
Check "the dancer's resource" or "stripper web". Google them. They are more resourceful for dancers than this site is. Not down playing reviews or anything, but this site is meant more for customers than it is for dancers.
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3 years ago
I'm a deja vu dancer. I can answer from experience. In short, yes. But you have to find the right girl who can and knows how to easily hide it.
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3 years ago
I just looked her up. I have zero mutual friends or followers with her. I'm assuming she danced on the west side of the state or out of state. She has a lot of feminist posts and sex workers rights stuff. So I'm assuming she probably hasn't danced in or near Detroit/suburbs. There may be a chance she escorted though.
Also, her book is self published and available on Amazon, so she didn't make it big or anything with a book deal. Anyone can self publish a book on Amazon and sell it.
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3 years ago
She looks suuuuper familiar to me.
Also, OP, her stage name is right in the article! Did you even read it? Penelope.
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3 years ago
That's just, like, your opinion man.
I don't know why guys can't remove shedded pubes and clean their dicks before asking to have it sucked. "Suck my lint covered dick."
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3 years ago
For clarity, just because some of you can be particular, I should have said *some* guys have offered me $500+.
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3 years ago
"clique of dancers right now from Florida who are throwing out the crazy VIP prices."
Yes. There are. We've had a huge influx of new baby strippers and also some returning strippers. There are a few from Florida that, I believe, are just visiting. I know one is from Booby Trap.
Htxx, "listening in as it were to customers etc. the result is a lot of the sancers are now banding together in the Locke rooms and are trying to set the bar on a minimum price point."
No. You are so far from the truth. We are NOT allowed to discuss what we do in vip with staff or other dancers. There are signs in our locker room warning we'll be fired or fined if we do. And all of us are actually very respectful in regards to not asking or being nosy. We all know some girls do stuff and some don't. But we're not there to fuck around and set customers up with high prices. Every girl I work with at Flight is about her business and could care less what another girl is charging. We care to a point, but we know we can't do anything about it other than trek on to the next customer. So, please, let go of your little conspiracy theory.
",i would be stunned if any guy is actually paying $500 for a dancer who approached him first".
...this happened to me last month, but I approached someone who tipped me $200 in $20 bills on stage. We went to vip for normal bland dances. After 6 songs, he asked if I could stand in front of him naked feeling myself while he masturbated into a condom. He initially gave me $600 after he was done. And then after getting dressed, he gave me another $600. I told him he already paid and he said that was my tip... So... just because you guys may not be willing to pay high prices does not mean there are guys out there who do (and voluntarily).
Also, when negotiating, I ask what the customer is working with or their budget before I counter with anything. Guys have offered me $500 in the past when doing that.
Those are my own experiences and little story though. Ymmv when it comes to offers other dancers have received. But I will promise my job to you guys that we are not discussing our shenanigans to each other.
review comment
3 years ago
"I'm guessing a lot of girls are still making unemployment money or making big money on OnyFans."
Yeah... No.
discussion comment
3 years ago
Leggs was another Hamilton club. Shut down by the county due to the extra curricular activities in the club. Source: former Leggs employee currently bouncing at my club and we were actually just chatting about gross Hamilton clubs recently. He mentioned Leggs.
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3 years ago
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TetradonI'll act nicer if you'll act smarter.
Yes, when it's slow.
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3 years ago
Tapping in to back up Icee's assessment of how "managers" target easy prey.
And MANY Instagram "models" have purchased fake followers. You can check engagement stats on Social Blade to see the ratio of real vs fake accounts for every public account.
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3 years ago
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48-CowboyForcing Baby Boomers To Stop Being Babies
Shit's so stupid and elementary. If this site is all fiction, why use stupid acronyms and code words?
Just share what you did without naming the dancer. It's not that difficult, or at least it shouldn't be.
Guys at my club try to skirt around saying what they want and think it's funny. I'm like, if you want your dick sucked, then just say that and stop wasting time." 🙄