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5 years ago
So, here's the thing: no one reads a single review, and says, "okay, I'm not reading even a second review -- I'm definitely going". Anyone making a decision on going to a club is going to read a bunch of reviews. No, each review shouldn't have to repeat the same information over and over and over again, and doesn't need to be a self-contained every-detail-on-the-club-except-the-girls independent piece. Is it really so terrible if a guy reads 10 reviews, and only 7 of them mention the price of the lapdance and cover? After the 2nd or 3rd lapdance price mention, does it become MORE useful to read TRs and start learning about the girls?
Let the guys who write prices, write prices. Let the guys who do TRs, do TRs. As long as they increase knowledge of the club, for the guy reading a whole bunch of reviews to make his decision, it's all goodness.
I didn't know anything about Dreamgirls so just checked the reviews. First 6 reviews mentioned prices in some way, most also mentioned overall ambiance, stripper hotness, etc. Seventh review also mentioned prices, but also details about a stripper (irony: it was Secret). I appreciate all the reviews, but after 6 reviews re-confirming ad nauseum the prices, what the girls are like, etc., what's really missing is any g-2 on which girls are great and which girls suck. At least the way I like to research a new club.
All of that said, OP's review *was* a little light, regardless. But I still stick up for the TR type review. If I weren't so lazy, I'd go look for more and upvote them lol
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5 years ago
-->"Go fish it out among the other 2000 reviews?"
You don't have to fish it out among the other 2000 reviews. Most tuscl reviews have those details, since this is a drink price and lap dance cost centric review site. It's incredibly easy to find those details. In fact, I'd venture to guess no one researching a club reads one single review. They're going to read the first 10 (or whatever) reviews anyway, of which, 9 will have lapdance cost and drink prices on it. And, if there are also TR type reviews, you'll also be able to build up a picture of good dances and hustlers. Which is why I think the "every review should be a self-contained review of every facet of the club (except the actual girls)" is made far more useful if there's also TRs
People who like speeds and feeds reviews don't need to stop posting them, no reason to think those numbers won't keep coming in. But given that they're repeated ad nauseum, some g-2 on good and bad dancers is just the ticket
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5 years ago
Her name is SECRET. duh!
:)
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5 years ago
Warrior -- and not to pick on you! You're just the last guy to post --
"There is not much info in the Review that tells me anything about the club."
I don't know the club or how many reviews it has. But assuming that, like many clubs, there's plenty of other reviews that tell you about ambiance and lap dance prices, and other speeds & feeds type info, is being forearmed knowing at least one PL found Secret great, and not a hustler, useful? IF this were your first time at the club, and Secret came up to you, would you be glad you knew she's one of the good ones (or at least gave one PL a dance he was happy with)?
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5 years ago
Team WinningTeam all up in yo face!
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5 years ago
Pete, I agree with you to an extent...
Before I tell you what I agree with you about, I'll say, it's worth knowing the forum review culture. On the previous forum I was on, your review would be welcomed. The most valued reviewers were those who wrote amazing fun trip reports. On this forum, the trip report format is not valued. I don't share the same values, but can't do anything about it; I just know it's not worth writing trip reports here, just stick to review format.
So, anyway, I may never understand why yet another review that describes the drink prices and dances prices, is more valuable than one that describes good or bad interactions with particular girls (without linking those girls to anything illegal or against club rules). Now I know Secret is a PL-pleaser and not a hustler ... how is that less useful than reading the 10th review in a row that says the lap dances are $20 and the drinks are $8 and the lap dance room is off to the left? I like reading trip reports, honestly, provided they give some type of useful information -- Mocha is sweet and you can't wait to see her again, Diamond is a hustler who cuts songs short, that's stuff I like to know.
Again, though, TRs are not valued on this site. Keep that in mind, you're not going to change it, so write reviews rather than TRs.
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5 years ago
With the kind of by-the-hour escort-like girls MisterWonderful is patronizing, the deal is "Your time lasts an hour or whenever you cum, whichever comes first. You still pay for the whole hour. Tips are appreciated.".
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5 years ago
-->"+1 to Warrior's sentiment - but let's be honest, if ahe made great decisions odds are she would not be on the pole."
That's at least partially what I mean by trashy sexy also. It can be exciting to see her poor decisions so visible and marked permanently on her body, as long as they don't take away too much from her beauty lol
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5 years ago
-->"These neck tattoos, sleeves, tramp stamps, ribcage scriptures"
I'm with you on neck tattoos and sleeves. I can easily overlook tramp stamps but they don't exactly exude class. Oddly enough, ribcage scriptures, I find trashy girl sexy. Dunno why! I also find tats on the upper hamstrings, and from ribs down to the pelvis, can turn me on in that trashy girl sexy way. I'd always prefer no tats, but if she has to have tats (beyond a princess ankle tat), those are the ones I like
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5 years ago
Alas, sleeves are one of the things that are a bit tougher for me to overlook. It's not neck tattoo obnoxious, but she has to be pretty spectacular otherwise if she has a sleeve tattoo...
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5 years ago
-->"otc services a few times about seven years ago. ranged from 150, 300, 400, 500, 700 an hour"
If you were getting OTC where strippers were using an escorting-type model -- which is what the above indicates -- then you get the worst of all worlds: escort economics with stripper hustle & flakiness. No wonder you didn't like it. What you described is a non-starter for me. If you're going to do OTC, and deal with stripper flakiness, at least make sure you get the upside!
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5 years ago
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gothamytefrom that Adam Westsiiiide of Gotham
Hustler Club in SF closes at 5am on the weekends. It is absolutely packed after hours, as all the bars in the area close and horny guys descend on the club. I was once there at about 2:30am, and a more densely packed sausagefest, I cannot remember.
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5 years ago
It really depends on how well I know her, and how much help it is.
Some stripper at the club who I've hung out with a bunch of times. I have a absolutely-not policy. My experience is, help out a random stripper, and you will learn the meaning of the phrase "no good deed goes unpunished". Absolutely not. And I may well stop seeing her if I get irritated
A CF asks for a small amount of $, for some plausible reason? By the time a girl is a CF, she's already the type who wouldn't just ask for $350, she'd instead say she's in a bind and ask if I could free up for an OTC. I might consider small advances, I suppose
An ATF is different. As I've said before, my experiences on SA have led me to realize my relationships with my ATFs have been very arrangement-like. By this time, there's enough trust built up that I'm ok helping her out. I have, for example, paypal'ed an ATF a full OTC, with the deal that our next two would be half price. She came through just as promised; I'm glad I could help her out.
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5 years ago
-->"I’ve seen cameras in sc booths and rooms... if they are functioning and recording... I just hope they get my ‘good’ side."
Remember, the camera makes everything look 3 inches shorter.
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5 years ago
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IceyI put your ATF on a winning team
Okay, so, correction:
I've been too busy paying bitches a few hundred a day, some days over a thousand, and making their bank accounts feel some kind of way to post here.
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5 years ago
Agree, would be good. Maybe like reddit, something as simple as adding asterisks for *italic* **bold**
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5 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
It's the Amazon Store Card (not a Visa or MC credit card, just works on Amazon). Amazon also has a Visa, but I didn't need any more Visas, and that rewards aren't that big outside Amazon purchases on the Visa anyway.
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5 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Ya, I work it similar to you, TFP. 5% back w/ Amazon card, 4% back on travel & entertainment with Savor card, 3% back on whatever I've chosen with BofA, 2% back with everything else with Citi. And I keep an airline card for the airline I use the most, again mostly for the early boarding before the overheads fill up, but also comes in handy for free checked bags
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5 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
The credit cards I actually use get AT LEAST 2% back on each purchase. I do have an airline credit card for the airline I travel the most on, and may grab another. If you travel a decent amount, you get the free miles, the free check-in bag ($50 per bag if you usually check in bags) and best feature of all, reasonably early boarding guaranteed (which means overhead space is still available). Well worth it for the airlines I travel the most on.
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5 years ago
I'm in that boat also. I really really like BJs, but I'll take the more vajinocious route every time. I find that what makes BJs most exciting for me is the psychological thrill (she's accepting my junk in her mouth) and more than that, the visual thrill. It turns me on incredibly to see a gorgeous girl with her lips wrapped around me... and as a result, I don' t particularly love it when you're lying down and just see the top of her head (unless she's a "look up and maintain eye contact" type), I'd rather be sitting up, I want to see her lips sliding up and down.
I've met a few women who are so masterful at it that they change my mind on this topic, though
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5 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
There's only two rules, and almost everyone on the board is in violation of rule #1 already, so rule #2 is the only thing we can keep sacred
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5 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
Pretty flagrant violation of rule #2
His first mistake was not asserting his boundaries when she was pushy and "I want money"... she knew he was a little bitch because he sat there and took it. of course she pushed further when he was leaving
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5 years ago
With you, it's to get more money. With me, it's because she's turned on because I'm so dope fresh, and she is in need of my management services
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5 years ago
-->"The club has as many (and possibly more) reasons for those videos to never become public. Also, they aren't there to spy on you. They're installed to protect the dancer"
Agree completely. On the other hand, there are companies who employee the best trained, most advanced security experts in the world, and they still get hacked. A strip club isn't exactly a huge target vs a billion dollar company, but it's also probably a very soft target, if strip club cyber security is on par quality-wise with strip club management. If you were a local hacker just seeking to do some mischief, might be fun to get into a SC or better yet, a SC chain. Or better yet a chain where they do ID scans.
Yes, a little tin foil hatty, but also, a little not-so-much. Worth going in with eyes open. I assume there's always video, and am just at peace with knowing the world might be blessed with seeing little subra fully unfurled