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6 years ago
My most amazing SC night, you will love this story, it involves two twin strippers, a bottle of cheap whiskey, a very confused bouncer, and a bad case of chlamydia.
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6 years ago
-->"But he was dressed well so he very well could have money. I immediately think this must be an OTC date."
Heh, my first thought would have been "sugarbaby", not OTC. Maybe I've got SA on the brain.
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6 years ago
Real pgo. Live it, learn it, love it, bitches
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6 years ago
I must be a goober, I clap if I'm at the stage
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6 years ago
Real pimpin' going on, Fathead!
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6 years ago
RHGO!
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6 years ago
Sic your trap hoe on him, Fathead!!!
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6 years ago
Obviously it's a slow decline rather than falling off a cliff, but I'd agree that by the time you get to mid-30s, you have a much tougher time finding attractive women. Not 1% -- way more than 1% of women are attractive to me at 35, but still, pickings have become noticeably slimmer. Meanwhile, I have been dating for 9 years now (since divorce), and still find women in the mid-40s or later who I am attracted to.
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6 years ago
I am looking forward to when you forget to post in character and sound exactly like one of us regular old white tricks you condemn -- which itself is obviously a well-known pimp technique that only real pimps use
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6 years ago
You might get lucky, but IME it's almost always not worth it
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6 years ago
==>"When I lived in Chicago and went to the Admiral Theater, I regularly saw wealthy old men gifting"
There was a regular at my fave club, old and retired and money to burn, apparently, who'd come in almost daily, often bearing gifts for the girls. Evidently he liked big asses, because he bought at least 3 girls I knew of, giant caricature diaper-ass augmentations. Just horrible. Apparently he offered this to a number of girls; my little spinner CF at the time, whose ass was perfect, told me he pressured her hard to let him pay for one for her. He is not my favorite guy in the club lol
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6 years ago
I don't think it's all that uncommon for a stripper to get her regular (or RIL, even) to pay for her breast or butt augmentation. Common enough that I wouldn't have thought to write a thread about it, even. Not criticizing you, just making that point that if you hang around enough, you'll hear about this type of thing often.
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6 years ago
Give them some high fives, some baby wipes, and a knowing wink
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6 years ago
-->"I am a very sociable person and you never know who you may find. So as long as they're not begging me for money or a drink, I'm fine. It's a social gathering, not a chess tournament."
I'm not the most sociable person in the world, but even I find saying a few words to a customer or male staff member to be a stress-free, effortless, and sometimes fun thing. So if even find it easy, I sometimes wonder about the guys who find it super stressful. I've always felt "I'm there for the girls, not to talk to other guys" is always just code for "I'm anti-social by nature and find it stressful to talk to strangers, my sex drive is what lets me talk to strippers" "I'm uncomfortable talk to blue collar workers" "I don't do male bonding talk easily" .... which, by the way, is all fine, I have my own social quirks for sure. No need to try to spin it like you're some type-a mission-oriented operator who can only focus on his single mission at a time: talk to strippers.
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6 years ago
bubs, are you drunk again? Rick and George gave opposite advice
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6 years ago
Dumb decision to go to her place. If you're paying for the hotel, no reason for her not to also choose the hotel, since that prevents a stranger (you) from know where her place is. Doesn't add up. Hard pass.
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6 years ago
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LiwetIf she walks away smiling, you spent too much.
In new clubs, I often take the tour. Might as well see what the club layout is, where the rooms are and what they cost. I have never taken the stripper up on the post-tour dance offer. Never even been tempted.
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6 years ago
Did you start off with increments to lower your risk (e.g., weekly allowance or bi-monthly allowance), or just bite the bullet and go the whole month?
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6 years ago
JeffTuscl-->"- SA and sugar baby girls are also discretionary but place inflated value on their self-worth and will usually not do p4p but seek some kid of set allowance for a fluid but generally accepted agreement"
Lots of good points Jeff, but oddly, here's one I disagree with. I have NEVER had an SB not accept PPM, even if she proposes allowance first. If I were making the same point but with my experience, I'd say: all SBs will take PPM no matter what they say on their profile or whether they ask for allowance at first; but it will often come with a request for a commitment on frequency (e.g., we see each other once a week, so she can count on 4x$PPM each month)
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6 years ago
-->"I've made this comment on here before but either I am walking on four leaf clover with SA or something is really off. I'm not saying it is perfect but the amount of times women have tried to scam me for up front meeting cost, not being the girl in the pictures or having GPS is really low compared to what I read on here. "
I'm with the others here. In general, my experience is: expect a decent percentage (15%-25%) to ask for payment just to go to the M&G, expect most girls to be 1/2 to a full point less attractive than their pics, and most importantly, expect a flake rate that exceeds whatever you've experienced with strippers (note on this last point: once you find a reliable SB, obviously there's no worry about flaking anymore. But expect to go through a lot of flakes before you get there).
-->"My answer and it is one I have used the few times it comes up is that I make x amount of money an hour. If you make that much I would think you wouldn't be on SA. I'm offering you to meet at a place of your choice and I am picking up the tab since I am doing the inviting. If you are not willing to invest an hour or two of your time to see if the two of us can come to an understanding on how to make your financial situation better than I wish you the best of luck and we probably are not a good match. "
I think that's a fine explanation, and I agree with it. But over the years, I've found that once an SB requests $ for the M&G, I've been able to talk her out of it zero times. So I no longer even try; once she asks for $ for the M&G, I just block her and move on to the next. Have you had any much luck talking these girls out of a payment for the M&G?
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6 years ago
Yes, that has been my guess as to the explanation also. It does beg the question -- in cities where there's a mix of extras and non-extras clubs -- why a stripper has specifically chosen a non-extras club, if she's willing to go OTC to do extras. And I think the answer is:
- She can handpick who she does has sex with a little more carefully -- while extras girls can be choosey too, most seem to take on (almost) all comers.
- It's not true that girls in extras clubs are necessarily making more than girls in the non-extras club across town, at least in the high end non-extras club and even in the mid-level clubs. So a hot chick in a high end non-extras club might be having her cake and eating it too -- making nearly as much money for doing less in the mid-range non-extras club, plus hand-picking OTC for extra income here and there.
All just navel contemplating
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6 years ago
When I was younger I'd go to a particular SC with my buddy and we'd shoot pool in between breaks to stage tip, get dances, etc. Sometimes we'd grab a stripper and she'd shoot some stick with us, which was always fun. I realize this isn't what a hardcore PL is looking for as far as a strip club experience, but as two guys looking to shoot some pool, drink some beer, all while having pretty girls around to tip and talk to, it was pretty fun.
The etiquette at the strip club we used to go to was, if guys were sitting along the back area near the pool table, they were looking to play (otherwise they'd be sitting anywhere else in the club, to be closer to the girls or the bar), so if one of us wanted to go get some dances, the other would just ask one of the guys sitting back there to play. And if we were sitting back there drinking, we knew we might get invited to play. Nothing to freak about. Some of you guys make this stuff very hard -- a guy offers to shoot some pool with you but you don't want to play, "no thanks man".
Like I said, I'm looking for a completely different experience now, totally uninterested in playing pool at the SC, but understand why some guys do. If it ruins your day to be asked if you want to play, don't go to an SC with a pool table, or at least, don't sit near the tables, is my thought.