ATF asking me to meet at a place

Is her friend male or female? Are you being set up? You're obviously not comfortable with this. Get a hotel room.

Her friend is a girl.

I dont think it's a setup because I know her social profiles.

I initiated the idea of hotel room she didnt respond.

Her friend is a girl.

I dont think it's a setup because I know her social profiles.

I initiated the idea of hotel room she didnt respond.

Do either one of them need a kidney ?

If the answer is yes you know whats up.

I think both of them

I avoid otc at non-neutral locations. If I don’t know the whore - I’d be highly skeptical of going to her place.

It’s too easy to get setup and robbed - when going to a place for the first time.

If you pack heat - maybe you can handle anything they might throw at you. But you might not want to create a scene.

Unless you know her real well, the default mode would be a hotel. If she doesn’t want to go to a hotel I’d suggest extra caution.

^^^I’m also assuming she is an OTC stripper and not an escort with an incall apartment.

Huntsman offers good advice.

Dumb decision to go to her place. If you're paying for the hotel, no reason for her not to also choose the hotel, since that prevents a stranger (you) from know where her place is. Doesn't add up. Hard pass.

What Subraman says, with this caveat. If her problem with a hotel is a ride, there’s a couple of possibilities.

She might not want to depend on someone else, who then knows her business.

She might not want to be at your mercy for when she gets home if she depends on you for a ride.

She might not want to mess with the time and possible expense of a taxi/Uber/Lyft.

None of those alone should change the “hard pass”, but if you can figure out why the hotel is apparently not acceptable, you might be able to do something about it.

If you've known her for a while ITC and already have her social media accounts, you'll be fine.

I used to post much the same advice as the old women on here who are hiking up their skirts and squealing at the thought, but back then I was mostly clubbing on the road and didn't know much about the girls I took OTC. If she's a local dancer with a history in the club, then she probably has as many reasons to avoid problems as you do. I've done this a handful of times now with local girls and I've never had a serious problem.

My gut says "don't do it." They are guilty until proven innocent. That is a statistical assertion, not a moral one. Whatever, be VERY careful.

A few months ago I met up with a woman through SA that lived quite a bit away from me. She had a great fit body. She seemed hesitant to come to my area and I figured Uber was same cost as just getting a room near her. I only agreed to PPM and negotiated to a reasonable rate.

Her place was so close to the hotel yet she still hesitated to drive or walk over, she wanted me to come pick her up i my car and drive us back to the room. Then asking if I wanted to get drinks first, but I didn't know the area and she had no clue so I just took her back to the room. It was odd and annoying but I figured what the hell. Waited 20 minutes for her, and by the time we're in the room it had been almost 3 hours since I left my place.

She had a great petite body, very fit, but was a little older than claimed and had the look of too much plastic surgery on her face, tits, etc. We had some drinks and, once she got comfortable she quickly got her clothes off and had her way with me for about 2 hours. Ultimately she was just hesitant to jump the gun with me before knowing me. She was insisting next time I come up I can meet at her place and stay over, same rate. I think it really depends and you have to gauge the girl to understand what's up or why she is suggesting certain things. I usually deal with my concern by using humor like, "I'm not going to wake up in a tub with 1 less kidney am i?"

For this one I described, I've not met up with her again, she even lowered what she wanted and started talking about her fantasies she wanted to fulfill. It just seemed odd to me how immediately needy she seemed and the whole overdone plastic surgery was a huge turnoff to me. I think to most guys she would be amazingly hot but just everything with her other than the banging body and aggressive sex seemed off to me. I just kept imagining her going nuts on me in the future. She kept chasing me with texts and sexy pictures for a few weeks until it was clear I wasn't interested. I looked up her IG and saw earlier pictures of her before surgeries and she was incredible looking, decided she had very low self esteem to do that to her self.

What Rick and George said....

And the obvious question, how can someone be your ATF if you haven't done OTC yet?

bubs, are you drunk again? Rick and George gave opposite advice

If it were me I’d probably go but I’d take a gun just in case.

^^^ remember when you said you were going to leave? You missed me didnt you?

Darkblue.... it all depends on how well you think you know her. What I mean is you have her social media info. So that helps... but would she rob you or is she into any shady stuff.

You did good about the hotel and see if that pans out. Because that could put both of you a little more at ease.

Or the wild possibility... does the other girl want to join in!!!

Anyways... I have done OTC with a dancer I just met in a town I didn't know... all turned out fine. But I went around the block a few times to check things out.... I was outside of the place about an hour before the meeting to check things out... and I made sure i parked down the street so nobody see what car I got out of and left everything valuable in the car..... my car keys I left in because I have outside key pad on the door. So i had nothing but the agreed cash on me and that was it. All things worked out fine and not an issue... but you never know.

So take precaution if you do go.

She is a student

She dont have a car

She takes Lyft

I know her well at the club

I think your faggot ass read too much into whatever she said. If she really wanted to see your faggot, socially retarded mentally ill stalker ass outside the club, she would have. But the fact that you claim to know her well in the club, that says a lot about your delusions.

I hope your ass gets set up, you deserve it sick fuck

^ That gave me a really good laugh. Thanks for making my day PhatBoy

You're welcome. I just remember Dark Blue from his threads about bragging that he takes up a strippers whole shift, bitching about being ignored by strippers, and how he follows strippers into the parking lot and follows them in his car to ask why they left without saying by and why they avoid him....

Sounds like he's a lost puppy looking for attention. One of these days someone will take advantage of his weak clingy nature.

I've gone home with plenty of twosomes straight to their place...Girls well known at the club, not worried about it too much....I'd be more worried about an escort I've never met than dancers.

It won't be worth it for them. Its like asking to get raped or stalked.

whatever you do dont wait too long debating. I have fucked my way out of guranteed FS many times debating this. Girls these days are are known to flake and the her options outside the club can change all the time. (e.g. new boyfriend, another sugar daddy swept her up.)

Go for it. You're very unlikely to die

Subraman posted: "bubs, are you drunk again? Rick and George gave opposite advice."

We did indeed. But keep in mind that GMD is the type of guy that goes so far as to bring his own dental dam to the club and advises others to do the same. Shit, I didn't even know what that was until he talked about it - I had to Google it. So needless to say, he's an extraordinarily cautious guy by nature.

When I’ve done OTC, it’s usually been at her place, but this is after I’ve known her for awhile.

Googling dental dam

“But keep in mind that GMD is the type of guy that goes so far as to bring his own dental dam”

Not anymore. Of course, I don’t eat near as much pussy in clubs anymore either. Besides my ATF, there are exactly three girls for whom I’ll do it now, one of whom no longer strips but still sees me occasionally, and another of whom never was a stripper, just someone I met on SA.

It depends on how you know her, and the current relationship between you and her.

For example, how much you spend on you on each visit? how long you have known her? Did she behave honest to you?

I think meeting at her place, not at a hotel, is because she didn't want to have sex with you, but asking you to continue to support her financially.

Yes she seems like a decent dancer, just go, don't take much cash.