Comments by Papi_Chulo (page 24)

“… Also, I spoke with 3 different dancers and they all said that they are struggling to make money due to so many new dancers and so few customers per dancer. That’s great for us PLs but I’m worried it will drive away many of our better dancer options …” The fact there are so many dancers is probably b/c this is one of the, if not thee, best, money-making club in AtL (mileage/extras sells) – b/w inflation and fear of a coming-recession perhaps custies are holding-back and that probably affects all clubs – sometimes dancers give up on dancing when things get slow in the clubs and just stick to a civilian-job till things pick up (for many dancers it’s not worth it to them to be in the club if the $$$ is too-inconsistent) – I doubt they would be doing much butter in another AtL club? What’s needed is more Vivide style clubs so not all dancers that wanna work in that style of club are squeezed into one club. “… Oh and me and one of my dancers got kicked out of our booth …” Man I hate that shit – I remember when I used to hit Follies from out-of-town and the Follies bouncers would kick you of a table b/c they would sell it to someone else – that shit would piss me off to the point that after a while I wanted to stop visiting.

Pre-Covid, the upstairs were more of a “party-club” (rain-making; boot-shaking) especially when the club was busier/later-in-the-day; whereas downstairs one got better-dances/mileage; but is wasn’t universal.

If one wanted to do a FL SC road-trip I guess one could do the following: + start-off in the keys but being careful to avoid the bad-tourist-traps (the keys overall can also be a fun place to hang and do stuff outside of SCs) + from the keys head north to the Miami-Metro-Area (Miami thru West Palm Beach) w/ the best clubs in the metro-area being in Pompano + then head west to the west-coast of FL to the Ft Myers area – then a bit north along the west coast to the Tampa/Clearwater/St-Petersburg area + then head east to Central FL and perhaps hit some Orlando clubs (although far from high-mileage it seems post-Covid the no-touch-rules are not being as enforced although I don’t have first-hand-knowledge) + from Central FL head to the east-coast again to Cocoa Beach for the clubs there + then head north along the east-coast to Jacksonville [Or one can reverse it and start of in Jacksonville and work their way down south instead of starting in the keys and working north] And of course not all areas will offer the same amount of mileage; and when in a specific area one still needs to know which clubs to hit and which clubs are a waste.

Well – in general – a man’s “state of mind” when his balls are full of cum, vs when they’ve been drained, is often gonna be different – when I’m at a club and I see a dancer I really-want, getting-her is all I think about – once I’ve had her (gotten dances from her); she often seems a bit less hot and I’m ready to move on to the next-one (although this is in large-part due to me being a big variety guy) – similarly when one is hard-up and needing/wanting to get some; vs after one has gotten it. I guess all one can do w.r.t. OTC is to “Subra it”; i.e. refine one’s game (whether ITC or OTC) to where one is getting the best bang-for-the-buck/experience possible and try not to burn money/time on subpar experiences.

There’s no “full-proof” method for this IMO. By “assjob” I assume you mean: 1) your dick is out *and* bare (no-condom) 2) she’s also bare (so it’s bare-ass on bare-dick) Of course anything goes in clubs w/ extras if one goes to VIP – but I assume you are asking about getting an assjob during a regular dance? Assjobs during a regular dance, if they can be had, IME have happened at high-mileage dive-clubs (or the old Follies ATL) – but it’s a risky-move. The best-way is probably to ask although I tend to be a “in the moment PL” and I prefer to “take the initiative” and let-my-actions (and the dancer’s actions) “do the talking” – depending on the club and the dancer; I have just taken it out and let her proceed as she wishes – often times they’ll just tell me to put it back-in (or the dancer will put it back-in) and the dance just continues – my perv M.O.: + first depends on the club + then depends on the dancer and her dance-mileage + then I’ll wait till at least half-way thru the 2nd-song + I will wait for a chance where her back is to me and she’s not on me to take-out-the salami (I usually wear athletic-shorts or sweatpants both w/ an elastic-waistband) – once the missile is out, I’ll cover-it w/ my shirt – she’ll then be grinding on my shirt w/o being able to tell my junk is out underneath it – a few seconds later after she’s grinding on my shirt w/ my bare-cock underneath my shirt, I’ll pull-up/adjust my shirt up a bit to where she’s then grinding on my bare-dick and I let her take it from there – sometimes it’s a hit, and often times it’s not (and when it's not a hit most times she’ll just tell me to put it back-in-my-pants/shorts or she’ll put it back in my shorts/pants). Again this is obviously a risky move that I only do once-in-a-while in a club I’m familiar w/ and I know its M.O. and these are usually VHM/UHM dives – but as was posted previously; asking may be the safest way to go about it (it’s just that IME I’ve been able to get away w/ more by being “proactive” vs asking). There is always the risk that a dancer may want to fuck-you-over and tell a bouncer but I’ve never had this issue (again this is not something I necessarily do regularly and the worst that has happened is she asks me to put i back in or she’ll put it back in, my pants) – if a dancer did sic the bouncer on me then my back-up plan is: 1) I’ll plead-innocent and claim she was grinding on me hard to where my pants slipped-down unbeknownst to me (since I wear stuff w/ elastic-waistbands “for comfort”) 2) or – I’ll claim she took out my junk and then afterwards asked me for an obscene amount of money and I wouldn’t give it to her (or something like that) Buy I’ve never had the issue of where a dancer sic’d a bouncer-on-me and most times they’ll just tell me to put it back-in.

There’s a tip-parade and then there is a TIP PARADE. There are clubs w/ a modest tip-parade; and then there are clubs where the dancers def take advantage. NJ clubs seem to have a rep for too-much of a tip-parade. I live in Miami where some of “the extra-Cuban-heavy” clubs have gangsta-style tip-parades. I don’t like a tip-parade but I will “usually” try to adjust to the culture of the club – what I don’t let happen is to be taken advantage of and be taken for a $ucker. If the dancer comes around after her set I don’t mind giving a small-tip – what happens in Miami, and perhaps other tip-parade-areas; is that you have dancers circling the club continuously asking for tips and you can be hit by the same dancers ever 15 or 20 minutes all night long – if I get approached for a tip by one or two girls every-song (meaning the girl that just got off-stage and perhaps the one b/f her); then I’ll likely acquiesce – what I won’t do is be tipping 4,5,6,etc girls every damn song – in some of the Miami tip-parade-hustle clubs you can be tipping every 15 damn-seconds to where one can’t even sit back and relax w/o having to reach into your pocket every 15 seconds – fuck that shit – that is taking advantage and the dancers KNOW IT and do it b/c they know most custies are easy to manipulate. I stopped being a tip-parade-trained-monkey long ago – my M.O.: + depending on my mood – I may tip most girls when I first get there – but by the time they come around a 2nd-time I just say “no thanks I’m good” + or; depending on my mood: I won’t do the above and just say no-thanks right off the bat and only tip the girls I’m interested in The obvious reality is that the more PLs give-in; the worst it only gets and the more of an expectation that is built in – again this applies to clubs that take-advantage of the tip-parade where one is having to tip multiple (3 or more) girls ever single song even if they haven’ been on stage right b/f their tip-parade – and of course if one is sitting at-the-stage then one should be tipping the dancer(s) performing on-stage (which makes it tricky for NJ clubs since the stage is inside the bar and seems most NJ clubs are small w/ mostly bar-side sitting basically meaning one is sitting stage-side). In summary: + I tip every -dancer if I’m sitting stage-side (but I mostly care about dances and will rarely sit stage-side) + if a club has a tip-parade, I will try to blend-in if the dancers are not taking advantage, meaning only the dancer that got off stage is doing the tip-parade – if I’m getting hit by half-a-dozen dancers per song; forget-that; I stop tipping and only tip the dancers I’m interested in Clubs w/ abusive tip-parades are IMO counter-productive for custies – i.e. the more girls make on stage or w/ tip-parades, the less they may be apt to wanna give dances or even-good-dances if they can make a decent-amount tip-parading all-night-long and thus can avoid having to grind and be groped. w.r.t. being seen as “cheap” – for one; girls know they are taking advantage (in clubs w/ excessive tip-parades) – most know if a custy puts his foot down that he is not necessarily being cheap but just not being a sucker – I’ve been in excessive-tip-parade clubs a good # of times and rarely have I not been able to get dances when I want from who I want even if I haven’t been tipping – it may take being a bit pro-active in approaching the dancer and/or someway letting her know you’re interested in dances – IME rarely will a dancer say no to dance-$$$ b/c you didn’t tip the tip-parade (again b/c they know it’s a hustle) – and if she’s not willing to take my dance-$$$ ($25/dance) b/c I didn’t tip a buck or two during the tip-parade then I rather not deal w/ such a dumb-dancer.

See if it knows what an "LDK" is

Describe the dancer-crew other than they sat together or on their phones (looks; ages; builds; ethnicities; natural vs enhanced; etc)

I haven't studied investing so I stay away from stuff like that - me only having very-basic investing knowledge I mainly stick to low-cost ETFs (hardly even do individual stocks) - options are a bit too-gambly for my risk-appetite and level of knowledge - seems options can make one lots of money but can also lose one lots of money - for my risk-tolerance/knowledge-level, I consider basic market investing is already risky-enough

From reading reviews of this club over-the-years my understanding was that on stage it's $5 for the top to come off and another $5 for the bottoms to come off.

I'm not much of a drinker and will rarely buy more than one drink - I always try to have small bills on me to pay for the drink - although I've rarely had issues getting my change-back when paying with a $20; I have had some: + once at Tootsies - paid for a $7 beer with a $20 and never saw the waitress again + another time at a small Miami black dive (The Body Club) - paid for the $5 beer with a $20 and the bartender never gave me my change - after about 20-minutes I walked over to the other side of the bar to where she was and told her I never got my change - she claimed not to remember what I paid with but did give me back my change when I told her I'd paid with a $20 I also prefer to pay with small bill(s) which usually covers the tip that way I don't have to be waiting for change in case I decide to hit the lap-dance area b/f the waitress has brought back my change.

I'd assume it's the Pacific Northwest (Portland; Seattle) - but I don't have firsthand-experience nor do I really follow those clubs to know their ins and outs

I was never much of a BBB shopper personally although I’ve been in their-stores over-the-years mostly to drive my Mom or Aunt there since they didn’t drive (but haven’t been in a BBB since pre-Covid) – per what I remember (at least pre-Covid) they seemed to have a pretty-good selection compared to the avg brick-and-mortar store and a bit higher-prices but also seemed to have a bit-better-quality. I assume what “did them in” was online-competition mainly Amazon (not only hard to compete w/ the online/Amazon prices; but also the seemingly-endless online-selection). BBB is far from the only brick-and-mortar store to go out of business due to online-shopping/Amazon competition and actually lasted more than many. I don’t like being in stores for hours looking for stuff – I think most people prefer the online-convenience (as well as lower-prices) and/or don’t have the time to be driving to stores and fighting traffic etc. I’m not a big-shopper and usually buy stuff b/c I need-it vs just b/c I want something new to have – I still prefer to go to a brick-and-mortar when it comes to buying clothes and shoes b/c I wanna see how it fits; but for almost everything else I don’t see the appeal of the brick-and-mortar.

I respect what he's done as a player and how long he's done it - impressive how he's never lost significant-playing-time due to injury after such a long career especially given his aggressive-playing-style - and impressive how he's remained a top-player even 20-years-in and not much of a drop-off - but he seems to bring-drama to every-team he's on and seems to wanna be a poor-man's Mohammed Ali social-justice warrior/icon and he seems to wanna fashion himself as some kind of intellectual that is more "enlightened" than anyone else.

If ur that much into Latinas then u should visit Vivide on dayshift which is like 2/3 Latinas/Cubanas

Yeah - any dancer that starts-off w/ the Champagne-Room-pitch right-off-the-bat will raise my hustler-antenna – and like you, any dancer asking for money-upfront is a deal-breaker (the very-few-times I paid upfront early-on when I first started SCing; those dancers more-often-than-not turned-out to either be ROBs or just terrible-dancers and likely why they wanted the money upfront) – I can understand a dancer being concerned about not being paid at the end and being stiffed; in that case the best I’ll do is pay her after every dance she does if she wants me to do that but I rarely run into this issue though. I also don’t like the dancers that want me to commit to multiple-dances-upfront (these can often be dancers that give shitty dances/mileage and why they want to lock-you-into multiple-dances upfront since once they have your $$$ they don’t feel compelled to give you good-dances to get you to spend more since they already have your $$$) – as a custy I’m willing to spend for good-dances; it’s up to the dancer to earn my business/more-dances by the way she dances vs me paying sight (dances) unseen.

In most alcohol-selling/non-BYOB clubs one will usually be constantly asked to buy a drink if one does not have one in hand (it’s just how most clubs operate since a big, if no the biggest, portion of their revenue, comes from drink-sales) – if one does not want to buy any more drinks, the M.O. is to not finish your last drink and just nurse it till you leave (or just buy a bottled-water); but being empty-handed (drinks-wise) in a club will usually get the staff’s-attention in most clubs (and in most clubs they usually don’t know how many you’ve already bought; all they know is you don’t have one in your hands).

Generic AF "review" which can be written w/o ever having stepped foot in the club (it's also a first-time-reviewer which smells like "let me write some fake generic shit and get the free TUSCL VIP")

I actually don’t spend that much time surfing the web; besides TUSCL, on an avg day I scan a particular conservative-website that posts multiple-short-articles per day and I usually read a few articles of interest per day on that site – other than that when I’m at home I usually look at Youtube on my TV and go thru the recommended-list of vids and w/e rabbit-holes that takes me on. I initially joined TUSCL b/c I had an upcoming trip to Houston and back-then I wasn’t as hardcore-an-SCer as I eventually became and thus didn’t know anything about the Houston scene – prior to joining TUSCL I had come across TUSCL a few times on the web but didn’t really have much interest in it; and after I joined TUSCL I wasn’t planning on becoming a “TUSCLer” after I had gotten the Houston-info I needed – but after seeing what TUSCL was about it piqued-my-PL-interest and also def opened-my-PL-eyes to all the possibilities that lied in the strip-club-world. Being that I’ve never really been a big-web-surfer I never got into the Reddit thing (and I don’t think it comes-up on Google-searches (?) and why I probably never ventured over-there). I *have* gotten an invite from Paul-Drake and Subra inviting me to post on r/stripclubs but me not being a huge-web-surfer by-default, and having gotten used-to TUSCL and not wanting to give-up TUSCL, I felt I didn’t have the bandwidth to post on both given how much I used to post on TUSCL – I’m also not the hardcore SCer I used to be which is also another reason I didn’t feel-inclined to post on Reddit as well as TUSCL.

Have never used it but then again not being into faves nor much into OTC I really haven't needed-it per se nor has it being offered. Question: --------- So if one has a dancer's Snapchat one can see all her chats or just the the ones b/w you and her?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=77gKSp8WoRg&feature=shares

IMO always kosher to give club basics (costs; mileage: dancer-crew description); which only takes a couple of lines - rationale: + not everyone is on TUSCL continuously and these also means newbies not familiar with clubs all over the country + in most clubs there are often girls that will overcharge - even in some well-reviewed clubs seems there are inexperienced SCers that get taken + I think it was reported that Baby Dolls was recently sold to RCI Holdings (Rick's Corp) - i.e. things can unexpectedly change in a club (not saying it has at BDs but with new ownership the potential is there) + lastly - the more reviews that are published missing basic-info the harder to find that info in a sea of reviews; and the more that get published with incomplete info then potentially that becomes the norm

Pre-Covid I used to fly to ATL 1x or 2x per year to club - that ATL airport was always a monsoon-of-people - I would usually get to the gate with an hour+ to spare and would often hang in the International (flights) concourse since it was pretty-new and nice and more spacious (although my flight did not depart from that concourse).

What is the wine scam? Is it a mesero trying to get a custy to buy the dancer a more-expensive wine instead of a beer?

I assume the "Cock-a-doodle-doo" statement was a joke bc u described the mesero looking like a rooster