Comments by Papi_Chulo (page 23)

I recall when I started watching/understanding football back in the early-80s as a kid (not long after immigrating from Cuba) that I would often see signs in the crowd (often behind the endzone) that said "3:16"; but I never really paid much attention to it and didn't know what it meant - it wasn't till I was older that I learned 3:16 was the "John 3:16" bible-verse which is probably the most popular/important Bible-verse for many Christians. I was thinking the other-day that it's been a long-time since I've seen that sign on a televised football-game. Or maybe I just don't notice it? Come to think of it I actually don't notice many signs in the crowd when I watch a football game these days. Perhaps I don't notice them like I used to or perhaps they purposely don't put the cameras on them?

When I lived/SCed in Dallas (2000 – 2009) Pandoras was part of my club-rotation – back then: + it was a BYOB dive + custies were mainly Mexican laborer-types that often came-in in-groups and mostly drank and just-watched + being BYOB it closed-late (most Dallas clubs served alcohol and closed at 2am) – back-then the club was mostly a weekend-night place (not much of a dayshift and pretty-slow on weeknights at least early-week) – being that it got busy on Fr/Sat eves; dancers kept fairl bus selling-dances on those 2-nights + back in the 2000s it was pre-Cubana-invasion and I’d guesstimate the dancer-makeup was approximately 50% Central-American (mainly Mexican w/ some Salvadorians/Honduran/Guatemalan); maybe 25% (white-trash) whitegirls; and 25% AA-girls; roughly speaking – the club was pretty-good-sized and on Fr/Sat eves probably had 30 to 40+ dancers I briefly visited Pandoras in late-2018 on a Dallas-trip and it seemed the club’s M.O. had changed a bit mainly in the dancer-makeup – in my brief 2018-visit it seemed mainly Cubanas and there also seemed to be more Cuban-custies – I didn’t get any dances in my 2018-visit; from what I recall if was still a dive and BYOB – given what appeared to be a heavy-Cubana-presence per my 2018-visit, could be the club may be a bit busier on dayshift and weeknights now (?) – but this club seems to rarely get reviewed so I would “assume” it’s currently not-too-good (?). There used to be an AA-dancer that occasionally posted on TUSCL that used to dance at Pandoras but her name/handle escapes me at the moment.

“… Papi chulo "black" clubs on the west coast sometimes have more Latinas than blacks. Is it Luke that in Miami? …” I haven’t clubbed since late-2021 but traditionally the SoFlo/Miami clubs have been pretty-segregated – i.e. IME it’s rare to vey-rare to find a non-black-dancer in a black Miami/SoFlo club – and w.r.t. the “mixed” Miami clubs, IME most of them either have very-few or none (black-dancers) – i.e. the SoFlo mixed-clubs; especially the top/popular ones; IME are not the clubs if someone is looking for ebony-dancers.

As other SoFlo TUSCLers have mentioned, here in SoFlo there really aren’t different club-options - the SoFlo standard is that all clubs serve alcohol and the standard is full-nude on-stage, but lap-dances are topless/g-string-on. When I lived/SCed in Dallas; there were BYOB-clubs and alcohol-clubs (alcohol clubs were topless-only and BYOB were full-nude-dances) - I’ve never been a big-drinker so when I lived/SCed in Dallas I chose clubs mainly based on them having the type of dancers I liked which for me was ebony-dancers – all things being equal I guess I’d prefer full-nude but the club having the type of dancer I like, and type of mileage I like, are the main-factors I’ve always used when SCing. My SCing M.O. is that I’m a variety-guy and I’m not a big VIP/extras guy; thus I like getting lots of 2-way-contact-dances (grinding and groping) and when a dancer is grinding-on-me I really can’t see her puss so it’s not a big difference whether she’s full-nude or wearing-a-gstring (I prefer a good-grind w/ a g-string-on vs a full-nude mediocre-grind). From my experience in Dallas (in the 2000s), the BYOB-clubs tended to be more dive/blue-collar and tended to have more dancer-variety which included the type of dancers I liked (mainly curvy and/or ebony dancers).

It’s been years since I’ve taken a wallet into the club – the less stuff I have on me, the less I can lose or have stolen (I’ve had both happen over-the-years). I mostly hit $5/dance small-black-clubs in Miami; and at times the $25/dance mixed-clubs – so having smaller denominations helps – my M.O. is similar to others in that I’ll put smaller denominations ($1s/$5s) in my right-pocket and $20s in my left and that’s pretty-much-it – since I mostly hit low-cost-clubs, and I’m not a big VIP/extras guy; I’ve never taken $50s or $100s into the club. I bank w/ Wells-Fargo and their ATMs as far as I can recall only dispense $20s and $50s – but many Wells Fargo branches near-me will have a separate ATM inside that will dispense $1s and $5s (in addition to $20s and $50s) and I often will use that inside-ATM for my small SCing-denominations (assuming I can hit a branch b/f closing time) – I once used a Chase Bank ATM near my house and noticed it had options for denominations smaller than $20s.

I haven't been to this place in a while but would not be surprised if it's changed as @Dolfan posted given this club had changed ownership pre-Covid

This has traditionally been a bit of a party-club and is usually slow on weeknights particularly early-in-the-week and also slow on dayshift.

It's likely the drink-hustle is being pushed by management/ownership and not much the waitresses can do about it - certain-clubs have certain annoying-things custies just gotta learn how to deal with (a "no thanks we're good" should suffice). You f'ed up taking a girl for dances that still-tried to order a drink on your dime after u had said no; that is often a red-flag to not deal with a dancer like that especially if one is not an experienced-SCer that knows how to deal with pushy staff and dancers - and u compounded the problem by giving her a tip after she cut ur dance short.

You keep saying "we" in ur reviews of SoFlo clubs - AFAIK ur from out-of-town - are u hitting the SoFlo clubs with a stripper-friend-in-tow? w.r.t. early-closing - only the clubs in Pompano close at 2am - all other non-Pompano clubs usually close at 5am or sometimes later. w.r.t. extras at this club - neither of the 2 Hallandale clubs offer them due to Hallandale-specific-ordinances (Vixens in Davie is another SoFlo outlier that does not offer extras) - Cheetah Hallandale actually doesn't even have private-VIP-rooms although some dancers in the past still pitched "VIP" but they didn't tell custies it was an open-area just a little-more-out-of-the-way so not worth it.

^ FYI Latinos did not come up with that stupid woke-term and most Latinos find it offensive to our culture.

Stop using that stupid LatinX shit - do you even know what it means.

TUSCL M.O. is to avoid identifying dancers-in-detail in the context of extras

Dance costs? Dance area privacy/ comfort? Describe the typical dancer-crew (looks; ages; builds; ethnicities; natural vs enhanced; etc).

As I’ve often posted I’m not into faves so not that hard for me to blacklist a dancer that’s done-me-wrong and move-on to w/e else the dancer-crew has to offer – given my strong like for variety means I rarely sweat/lust after any one particular-dancer. I find it important to not take advantage of a dancer as IMO their job is hard enough already; but I expect the same in return and for most of my SCing-career it would def really-piss-me-off when a dancer would try to pull one over on me and in the past that would often mean a lifetime-ban from my wallet. As I got a bit older and more-and-more exposed to strip-club bizarro-world, I became slightly more-flexible and would at times give a ROB a 2nd-chance with varying-degrees-of-success (most would play it straight after they realized they couldn’t play me and that I was fair w/ dancers and spent well). I’ve also noticed that dancers can change w/ time/experience (sometimes for the worse; but sometimes for the better) – some dancers that end-up as dancers as a career/longer-time clean-up-their-act – I’ve also been in situations where dancers’ attitudes have done almost a 180 – many of these girls often have serious drama in their personal-lives (often due to a POS S.O./babydaddy; etc) that can often affect how they act in the club; but they can become better dancers when/if they get that drama behind them. In summary – I’ve gone from a lifetime-ban for most of my PL-career, to giving 2nd-chances w/ varying degrees-of-success depending on the dancer (i.e. how long she sticks w/ dancing; how her personal life/situation is; etc).

I originally didn’t know what “AR” meant in your original post – now I see it means ur looking for clubs in Arkansas - good strip-club-locations are def more the exception than the norm and Arkansas is def not considered a good strip-clubbing area – AFAIK no-one that posts on the board regularly is from AK nor hardcore SCers for the most part bother to club there so kinda hard to make a recommendation of a good-club (although I recall a club in AK that if I remember correctly had a good #, if not mostly, AA-dancers but I can’t remember the name).

Ever since 2020 I record prett-much w/e sporting-event I wanna watch – I’ll usually start watching the recorded-event from-the-beginning halfway thru while it’s playing live - i.e. for an NFL game I’ll start watching the recorded version ~2-hours after the game has started that way I can skip the commercials and I often skip halftime and I’ll usually finish watching the recorded-version around the same-time the live-version ends but in half-the-time and having skipped all commercials. I mainly started doing this in 2020 to avoid all the aggravating woke-shit (I just heard a little while ago that they had played “the black national anthem” pre-game and as far as I’m concerned there is only one national-anthem (I’m Hispanic and I don’t expect nor want a “Hispanic National Anthem”). Anyway – I skipped the pre-game and halftime festivities this year in part b/c I’m a child-of-the-80s and not that much into current music and I rarely listen to current-artists thus I don’t have too-big-a-desire to sit thru a halftime-show of artists I normally don’t follow (plus the risk of running into more woke-shit). Having said this – I did enjoy the Bruno Mars halftime-show a-few-ears-ago – can’t say I was a follower-of-his-work at the time but I was def impressed when I saw him perform and was impressed by his talent both singing and dancing. I don’t follow Rhiana but I’ve heard a few of her songs and she looks very-talented and has been popular for a good # of years vs just being a flash-in-the-pan – so I give her kudos w.r.t. her talent and longevity but I’m def turned-off b most of her political and social stands – after having read this thread it’s piqued my-interest a bit and I’ll probably go back and watch the pre and halftime shows.

The avg song-length in many clubs is ~3-minutes - that's ~20 songs per hour - if there are multiple dancers hitting u up every song; that's a good amount of overhead to be paying for something u don't want - a custy should be tipping judiciously; not constantly

Was just looking at their Wikipedia-page and it says Trugoy's name is yogurt spelled-backwards bc he liked yogurt

Never been a big-enough fan of rap to have fave artists but I do recall back-in-the-day De La Soul used to get a lot of play on MTv especially with their song "Me Myself and I" and I recall De La Soul being held in high-regard by other artists - I also appreciated they didn't come across as thugs nor try to act that way but just avg guys from the neighborhood. Sad he went so young.

Just go with the Rodney Dangerfield approach "no thanks just browsing": https://youtu.be/xNotHLA8afU

When I was clubbing I was mostly a spur-of-the-moment/when-in-the-mood visitor (being single w/ no S.O./kids allowed for me to not have to pre-arrange my visits too-much). Dancer roll-calls are not a thing in the clubs I hit AFAIK so it has never really occurred to me to check IG for stuff like that - I'm also not into faves so I'm usually ok with popping into the club and seeing what's available since I have a rotation of clubs that are somewhat consistent and at times will hit more than one club per outing if the intial club(s) weren't doing it for me or I just didn't get-my-fill for the day.

It can be a bit harder for AA-women to get into certain-clubs particularly AA-women that are thick - if ur comfortable with it then specify what city/area ur in so u can get some recs on which clubs might be a better-fit - also; if ur comfortable with it post some body pics as certain clubs tend to hire/not-hire certain body-types. Best of luck - the strip-club world can be a bit hard to navigate if one is a newbie and it takes some time to figure out.

This site is mostly a customer site - I think you would benefit more from a dancer-centric site - we have some dancers posting on here but they are a minority - StripperWeb.com used to be a dancer-site but that site recently closed.

^ many black clubs are party-clubs and are treated like nightclubs - IME high-nightshift-covers (and often steep parking charges) are def not uncommon IME (and mileage can be suspect in many of them b/c of rain-making just-booty-shaking party-atmosphere)

This club has traditionally been a lap-dance-factory and that is what the girls are interested in (selling dances) – the stage-action here has never been too-big-a-deal IME and most dancers usually seemed to not wanna be on there and preferred to be on the floor trying to sell dances – the way the stages are set-up are not that conducive to interactions w/ custies.