Comments by Papi_Chulo (page 22)

Floor-dances are supposed to be $10 – lap-dances in the couch-room are $25. Also, the girls don’t make any $$$ just sitting w/ custies – if u don’t plan on getting dances from a girl then let her know upfront o/w u are taking up their time where they could o/w be making $$$ from other custies.

It’s up to u as the custy to know what things cost and keep track of dances – no one is gonna look out for u in a club; it’s up to u to look-out for yourself – the club’s/dancers’ focus is to try and get u to spend as much as possible; not to fill-you-in and how to not over-spend. Once u hit the lap-dance-area; the clock is ticking once a new song starts (in some clubs they will even charge you if u start in the middle of a song) – it doesn’t matter if you’re in the dance-area talking or getting things straightened-out, you’ll get charge for every full-song you’re back there. It’s up to the custy to know the dance-prices (ask upfront; or read reviews b/f going) and know the song-count (u can tell the dancer to let u know every time she starts a new song – or u can set the timer on your cellphone to keep track of the dances/songs; songs usually last 3 to 3.5 minutes). Unless u know what you’re doing best to stick to the regular $25 dances b/c it’s very-easy to get ripped-off in strip-clubs if u don’t know what you’re doing (it’s a club/dancer’s job to get as much $$$ out of a custy as possible; it’s up to the custy to know how to spend his $$$).

Dancers are independent-contractors – depending on the jurisdiction/city, clubs can’t force dancers to work specific-hours – not all clubs will have a good dayshift – dayshift girls will usually stick to clubs that have good foot/custy traffic otherwise it’s usually not worth it for them. Also – not uncommon for clubs to have turnover on staff/management – certain managers will cause dancers to leave a club for various-reasons; or b/c the club increases their dancer-fee; etc; to where it’s not worth it for the dancer. Kinda hard for the avg custy to know what goes on behind the scenes that may affect dancers being there or not.

AFAIK pre-Covid dances were $40/song or 3-for-$100 – but IDK if prices are different post-Covid

The layout is not important to reiterate – the important details to reiterate for those unfamiliar w/ a club are: a) costs (cover; dances; etc – describing the different dance-options) b) describe the typical-dancer-crew (looks; ages; builds, ethnicities; natural vs enhanced; etc) c) describe the typical mileage available these are the details important to someone unfamiliar w/ the club; not where the bar is located; etc.

Seems u got overcharged – the SoFlo norm is $10 for floor-dances and $25 for dances in the lap-dance-area (not all SoFlo-clubs offer floor-dances though)

Just curious: How many other black folks dud you notice in those cities? How much did the whole trip $et you back (this is kinda personal info so ignore the question if you prefer).

Wow - this is next-level-mongering. Any black chicks in da-building?

Great write-up. If u could only choose one; would it be FKK Sharks or TJ Hong Kong?

She wouldn't fuck me for free - the nerve of her

^ thanks – I just noticed that it’s now called “Conversations”

Where is the “Messages” folder? How do I know when someone has sent me a message?

^ in SoFlo we have the option of hitting good non-tip-parade-clubs – but perhaps that is not the case in an area like NJ where either most clubs have a tip-parade; or perhaps the good/worth-hitting clubs happen to have one. There may also be a reason to hit a club in-spite of the tip-parade – e.g. when I first-started hitting Showgirls in South Miami circa-2012; that was about the only Miami “mixed” club that had a decent # of ebony-dancers which is what I liked – although at the time Showgirls wasn’t my go-to-club; I still liked having it in my rotation b/c it had my type of dancer. i.e. there are often other variables other than tip-parade or no-tip-parade, when it comes to choosing a club.

The point of not naming a dancer is to not identify-her – it is apparent the reviewer was trying to identify the dancer when he posted the following: “… I do not know her name but she is a gorgeous, skinny Latina. She has straight blond hair, skinny waist, large fake tits and a few tattoos with the large flower on her shoulder being the most noticeable …” That is no different than giving her name; i.e. you’re pinpointing the dancer – and as it has been discussed in the discussion-board numerous times; the point of not identifying dancers in the context of extras has to do with more than just LE.

“… I haven't been before but I believe the champagne room is $165 + $200 for the dancers time …” Unless something has changed; that is not a room; more like an open-bench on the sides of the club that offer a bit more privacy but given it’s still out-in-the-open, AFAIK one will get the same-mileage as w/ the regular-dances. Unless something has changed; a private-room here were the cabanas in the 2nd-floor which were $650 just for the room not counting what the dancer would want for her time – AFAIK one kept the cabana for the whole visit but not sure.

Maybe I missed it in the review – what are the dance prices (table-dance vs upstairs – is there a club-fee for getting dances upstairs)?

What happens when you try to submit a review – do you get some kinda message telling you the submittal failed? How do you know it wasn’t accepted? I haven’t submitted a review in over-a-year so I don’t remember if the website gave you some kinda message after submittal like “thanks for your contribution …”.

Most dancers know the tip-parade is a hustle – as I posted in the other recent tip-parade thread; not playing the tip-parade-game hasn’t affected my ability to get dances in those clubs – again the dancers know it’s a hustle and “most” of them are not dumb-enough to turn-down a $25-dance(s) b/c the guy wouldn’t tip her a dollar during the tip-walk-hustle. Most of the time I say no during the tip-parade-hustle the dancer just goes on to the next guy – but once in a while I’ll get a real-bitch (not hard to find one in a strip-club) that will try to brow-beat-me for not tipping her – it really doesn’t bother me b/c for me the alternative of being jacked-for-my-money and paying for something I don’t want and having to do this ALL NIGHT LONG during my visit, is worse – I even had a Cubana once almost have an emotional melt-down when I didn’t tip her – she said “no you have to tip me” – I actually felt kinda-bad b/c I think she took it as rejection (I still didn’t tip her though – not to be mean – but when I hit a club I’m hell-bent on not being a “tip parade chump”) – I will usually spend 2 to 4 hours in a club unless the club is not doing it for me – after I stand-my-ground, the tip vultures (the ones that circle the club all-night-long) usually start avoiding me and asking for tips. My M.O. in the heavy-tip-parade clubs is to only tip the girls that interest me for dances – being a tip-parade-holdout means I may have to be a bit more-proactive about getting w/ the dancers I wanna get with (approach them, or just ask them for dance when they come around for a tip) – but as I’ve mentioned I’ve rarely not been able to get dances from the girls I’ve wanted to get dances from b/c again they know it’s a hustle. I don’t have first-hand-experience w/ the Jersey clubs – but I imagine the tip-parade tip is not “mandatory” – and I would imagine most of those girls would not turn down dance/VIP $$$ b/c a PL would not allow himself to be hustled – it seems to me it comes down to PLs for w/e reason being afraid to say no (as my newbie friend in my previous post) and subcoming to peer-pressure I guess and afraid of somehow being ostracized – I guess for some guys it’s less painful to be tipping continuously vs the feeling/thinking of being ostracized by the dancers.

w.r.t. tip-parades – IMO there are two options: 1) grow a fucking-pair and not allow oneself to be intimidated or 2) don’t complain and just pay up There aren’t any gimmicks or tricks. About 5 years ago I was PMed by a newbie young (mid-20s) TUSCLer about meeting-up at a local SoFlo SC – I let him pick the club and he happened to pick probably the worst tip-parade club in SoFlo (Booby Trap in Doral – I think it was the closest-club to his job). Booby Trap Doral was not part of my club-rotation but I had visited it a good # of times over-the-years; and had learned (b/c of this club) to stand-my-ground w.r.t. the excessive/abusive tip-parades. Anyway we are sitting at Booby Trap Doral and I start saying no to the excessive tip-requests (I would only tip dancers that interested me). The newbie TUSCLer noticed what I was doing (not tipping every damn tip-request) so we got to talking and I explained how one had to-stand-their-ground else one was basically part of the problem – then I pointed to a guy that was sitting few-tables away and told the newbie “look-at/observe that guy and see how he’s been taken advantage of” – the guy a few-tables-away would tip every time a dancer asked him for a tip – i.e. the tip-parade-vultures knew which PLs were easy-prey and would hit these guys continuously – anyway me and newbie observe this guy for about 30-seconds and the dude would be reaching into his pocket for a tip every 10-seconds – the guy couldn’t even sit-back and take a swig of his beer w/o having being interrupted for a tip. The newbie looked at me after observing this guy being tip-paraded-to-death and the newbie said “yeah you’re right (w.r.t. needing to stand-one’s-ground and not being taken-advantage-of)” – I thought the newbie had learned his lesson – the next Cubana comes-around and just holds out her hand and says “teep” (tip) and I just smile and shake-my-head no – she moves-on to my newbie friend and I’m expecting him to do the same as I taught him (LOL) and to my astonishment he tips her – I look at him and smile (in a “what the fuck are you doing” kinda way) – he smiles back and just tells me “man I couldn’t do it (couldn’t say no to the tip-hustle even though he didn’t want to tip)” – LOL.

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A few months ago there was a good SoFlo Discussion thread that was started by @carotene1 that had a lot of good SoFlo info – unfortunately w/ the-new-website-redesign I can’t search for that thread – I thought I had bookmarked-it but I can’t find it.

My assumption is that rap/hiphop is what made twerking popular – most dancers today probably grew-up on hiphop and hiphop is what is played in man clubs today. As most on here know; I’m into big-booty-ebony-dancers – thus I *do* like a big-booty ebony-dancer twerking since IMO it accentuates her big-booty – but I def don’t like seeing a girl w/ a small/flat ass trying to twerk; it’s like a skinny-120-lb-guy trying to flex his muscles – seems most guys on here are not into big-asses (like I am); thus I can see someone that does not appreciate big-butts not appreciating twerking (seems to me they kinda go hand-in-hand).

If a PL enjoys reading reviews that other PLs took the time-and-effort to write; then they should do the same – reviews seem to be the lifeline/main-product TUSCL has to offer and the main-way for the site to drive-traffic and obtain-users. I get it that most of us are used-to getting info-for-free on the internet; but asking to provide something in return for the info one is getting is not a big ask; and neither is the $7 VIP fee if one likes reading them that much.

I’ll upgrade to VIP if it offers something I can’t get w/ the regular/cheap dances and I want/in-the-mood-for that “something”. Here in SoFlo, one usually gets good two-way-contact single-dances – thus main-reason to do VIP in most SoFlo clubs is for extras and that is what “VIP” usually means (a private room involving extras). In other areas around-the-country; it seems one needs to upgrade to VIP in order to get two-way-contact-dances, or just better dances. As I’ve posted in the past, I’m not a big-extras-guy and will usually just stick to regular 2-way-contact-dances – when I’ve done extras in the past they’ve usually been “in the heat of the moment” thing; i.e. I’ve gotten turned-on by the dances to where I’ve wanted to upgrade to VIP/extras – I’ve never gone to VIP w/o first doing some dances – if she’s “my type” and her dances turn me on, I may upgrade to VIP/extras; i.e. I usually need to get “worked-up” w/ good dances to then pull the VIP/extras plug – and given that the clubs in SoFlo offer good mileage-dances on a per-song-basis; only reason for me (and most SoFlo PLs) to do VIP is for extras.

^ FYI I have my phone and computer set up for "prefers big-booty-mode"