Fellow clubbers, what makes you decide to take a girl to the VIP? By VIP, I mean more than a couple songs--15 minutes plus, in a more private area, whether you get extras or not.
Is it enough that she's hot and available? Do you want to see her energy on stage? Do you want to get several dances to see if it's worth it? Do you need a promise of extras and a menu before you get to the back?
For me, it depends on the club.
Usually, I want to get T's intro package--two private dances--and make sure she's enthusiastic and skilled about it. I want her to grind and touch and stroke and act sexy like her life depends on it. If she's mediocre in the private area, she won't be better in the VIP. If she's good in the private area, your VIP should be memorable, too.
If I'm ready to leave but want some extended female contact before I go, I might TOFTT and take her right for 15 minutes. This is rare unless it's been a shit visit but I see one available hottie on the floor.
If it's an extras factory (of the type I haven't frequented in a while) or an FKK, I want a short conversation where she shows she can be seductive and isn't rushing me to the back.
When the supermodel like dancer realizes my worth and laughs at iceydodo. I then proceeded to show her my bank balance. Swig some Johnny walker. Do the rebel yell and mount her like a rabid chihuahua til my generic viagra from India wears off
I wanna get laid.
She's hot and I'm after extras. Usually I talk to the dancer about what I want before we go to VIP. Occasionally, though, if she's hot and we've had a good chat at the bar, I'll take her to VIP and roll the dice. Even if she's not offering everything I want, then I figure I'll still have a lot of fun.
Interestingly, a couple of times when I haven't talked about expectations up front turned out to be some of the best VIPs I've ever had. So, sometimes part of the fun of VIP is taking the gamble and winning.
First off she has to be attractive and what I am looking for at the time and able to hold at least a decent conversation on the floor. After that it depends on the type of club.
If it's a nonextras club I generally do 2-4 songs each with a few different dancers before deciding who, or if, I am going to vip with. I base my decision on how the perform in those tryout dancers. I look for a combination of good contact and sensuality. A little dirty talk or seductive moaning from her helps as well.
If it's an extras club I may or may not go for some tryout dances first. I usually have an extended conversation with a dancer to make sure we are on the same page regarding vip before agreeing to it. If I am on the fence about whether to go to vip or not I will take her for a couple of regular dances first to see how she does.
Of course in either type of club I may run across someone who I have had a good time with in the past and in those cases I usually just skip the rest and head to vip. There have also been a handful of times I have seen a dancer that is the ideal of what I am looking for that night so I'll take her straight to vip to make sure I don't miss my chance if she gets locked down by regulars or some whale for the night.
@Icee, you're impersonating 25 but using TheeOSU's and SirLapDanceALot's catchphrases.
Tighten your insult game.
Iceydodo is a loser She is not worthy of my time nor effort.
I'm surrounded by 6ft 3 blondes laughing at him right now
At her
I mostly go to non-extras clubs, so menu and extras and the like don't really play into it. When she comes over to the table, I'll invite her to sit down and have a drink. If she's good with having a drink (I thank her and send her away if she won't), is fun to talk to at the table, will do another drink :) , is still fun ... we'll be doing VIPs. I don't do lapdances or trying out other girls first -- if she's fun at the table for a while, she's getting VIP dances .
I don't need to see her on stage, but I usually like to chat a bit and get a few dances too. Hot and available are obviously the bare minimum.
I very rarely talk about menu's and what we're gonna do. Locally, if they bring that shit up I generally disengage. Here, we all know what goes on in the rooms. I'll pay the fare, roll the dice and go for it. If she's got limits that aren't in line with my desires I respect them, make the most of it and don't repeat. There's a near certainty I'm gonna get at least something out of a room. In some areas it seems to be common practice to discuss activities and prices beforhand, so when in Rome... But even then I try to avoid it. On the road, I probably have overpaid for blowjobs as a result of my reluctance to talk turkey, but I still prefer my approach of paying the fair and letting things happen more naturally over having a shopping list to check off.
I still struggle with the term "VIP." Around here, VIP generally means a table/section/area of the club. Like Tootsies has the main floor VIP which is just some tables that are sectioned off and cost a few bucks to get in, then they've got the next level VIP which again has an entry fee but is the upstairs area with couches and is where the upper tier girls tend to go. At other clubs, VIP refers to specific tables that are reserved for bottle service or otherwise paid seating. Generally Dances are either table dances or lap/friction dances. Then there are champagne rooms which generally imply extras or at least nudity and offer sufficient privacy to do so. There's some exceptions or blending of terms, like some places call what I described VIP rooms instead of champagne rooms or VIP dances instead of lap dances. But "room" is the keyword that means extras and dances just means the dancer is dancing for you specifically, VIP is marketing speak that gets thrown around with no real indication of what it means. When I read "I went to VIP" in local reviews I have no idea if they mean they got a personal dance or went into a room.
fare, not fair.
Tetradon accusing me of being iceydodo is a serious offense. Come to Miami so I can butch slap you
You'll be lucky that's all you get. I see my cage fighter moves for more serious offenses
"Come to Miami so I can butch slap you" Butch slap me? Is that like a masculine lesbian?
Fellow clubbers, what makes you decide to take a girl to the VIP?
In almost every case if she's not a girl I'd bang she doesn't even get a lapdance. Sometimes I just feel like being nice or she's a dancer who was recommended by the club, a bartender, another dancer or whatever. Basically I treat that dancer like a friend of a friend and they'll usually get something.
Is it enough that she's hot and available?
No.
Do you want to see her energy on stage?
No, but sometimes I wanna see how she moves before I decide on a lapdance.
Do you want to get several dances to see if it's worth it?
I will sometimes just buy a dance to see if there's any kind of vibe. Some girls I'll tell in the middle of the first song we're a go for VIP. Most of the time if I don't think she's a winner right away I'm right. That doesn't mean she's an easy lay if it's an immediate hit, it just means that I'm getting there's opportunity for more.
Do you need a promise of extras and a menu before you get to the back?
No. There's plenty of dancers I've been with OTC who don't do much ITC (before or after).
Tetradon I don't have time for your yungin whippersnappery. Don't make me body slam you and finish you off with my sawed off shotgun
I'm going to service my 6ft 7 blonde lady friend now
^ Okay, Icee, that last one gave me a good laugh. Thanks, I needed that.
If you don't stop it right now I'm leaving tuscl. I'll beat you to a bloody pulp and throw you off my yacht. Founder needs to ban you trolls.
I’ll upgrade to VIP if it offers something I can’t get w/ the regular/cheap dances and I want/in-the-mood-for that “something”.
Here in SoFlo, one usually gets good two-way-contact single-dances – thus main-reason to do VIP in most SoFlo clubs is for extras and that is what “VIP” usually means (a private room involving extras).
In other areas around-the-country; it seems one needs to upgrade to VIP in order to get two-way-contact-dances, or just better dances.
As I’ve posted in the past, I’m not a big-extras-guy and will usually just stick to regular 2-way-contact-dances – when I’ve done extras in the past they’ve usually been “in the heat of the moment” thing; i.e. I’ve gotten turned-on by the dances to where I’ve wanted to upgrade to VIP/extras – I’ve never gone to VIP w/o first doing some dances – if she’s “my type” and her dances turn me on, I may upgrade to VIP/extras; i.e. I usually need to get “worked-up” w/ good dances to then pull the VIP/extras plug – and given that the clubs in SoFlo offer good mileage-dances on a per-song-basis; only reason for me (and most SoFlo PLs) to do VIP is for extras.
I need to find her attractive and see her dance, stage or with me first. From there depends on my mood.
My decision has always been based first of all on personal interaction. I also get input from watching the girl/woman dance. Does she just go through the motions, or does she put some real enthusiasm. How does she react with the crowd?
I also will get a short lap dance with her as a final check. After that, I seldom go back to simple lappers.
In one case (I'm talking about you, EndlessSummer!) we met on this board and things developed over several months before we met up in person. I knew before the first meetup that I was going to want multiple VIPs!
I've gotten dances from 72 dancers over the last 14 years. Over that time, this system has never let me down on the VIP issue. For that matter, I've only had three of those 72 that disappointed me in the lap dance room.
That's pretty impressive that ATACdawg has an exact count on the number of dancers he's gotten up close time with the last 14 years. I probably can't do the count for the past year, and maybe could do this year because it's only February lol. Maybe.
Whether or not I spring for VIP isn't up to me. It's the little head calling the shots!
It depends on what's on Netflix. If there is nothing good on Netflix, then I'll probably go to a strip club.
I don't pay for a VIP because the city I live in, Indianapolis, is not known for extras. This means if you are wanting extras you are gambling with your money when buying a VIP room. It's just not worth it to me. I'm likely to get something that will be just a really long lap dance. A couple regular lap dances are enough for me. By sticking to regular lap dances, I also don't have to worry about getting caught and banned from the club for doing something I shouldn't and don't have to worry the girl involved might get fired.
She has to be obedient and prove herself worthy of every dollar. I pay in 10 cebt increments like back in the day
I toss the girls up in the air if she lands on her feet I take her to VIP
The new Icee profile is about as much as anyone could expect from a convicted child rapist.
Fake 25 I'll toss you up in the air.
Skibum don't make me go full chick Norris on you. I'm 5 7 250lbs of 68 year old cage fighter. Now apologize or I'm eating tuscl
Leaving not eating
Frenulum
I like to do regular lap dances first before taking a girl to a room. This gives me a chance to test drive her. I even do this in extras clubs - if she can't engage and provide a decent lapper then why would I expect good service in the back?
This isn't a rule for me though. I've taken girls straight to the back before. Usually it's because I have good reports on her and the club is probably busy.
If she got da spirit of da lawerd! She go to let da foghornz ring my bretheren
When a dancer you’ve never met walks up and Insists on having her hand on your crotch that is Usually a good sign she is gonna be good for VIP
ATAC dawg says his system has never let him down. I say he's not taking nearly enough risks. My theory is that I learn half of everything I'm ever going to learn about somebody in the first 15 seconds. If she makes a good first impression, I'll spend enough to find out the other half.
It depends on the dancer, and whether I’ve had dances from her in the past.
If I’ve had a good time in VIP with the dancer previously, then I will be more inclined to enjoy more from her.
However, if she attempts to increase her rates, for the same offerings, I will likely say no thank you and move on.
If I’ve not enjoyed VIP with a dancer previously, I will get a few non-VIP dances first. If things cum to a head in the non-VIP area, I’m glad to avoid the VIP up charge. If things are getting heated, I’m happy to move to a more comfortable VIP setting to finish what was started.
Do you want to see her energy on stage? Yes. I figure if she's lazy on stage she'll be lazy in back. Not always true of course, but it's the only evidence I've got. If a dancer doesn't go on stage (whether her choice or too many dancers at the moment), no VIP. Around here VIP means just private lap dance area, not even an actual room just a tiny curtained area with something to sit on, with very little chance of extras.
Sex.