Comments by Dolfan

I'm stuck on the MVC name. I've always called that place the DMV, Department of Motor Vehicles. Is the MVC name normal? Anyway, I avoid it like the plague and only go if its an absolute must. I sure as shit don't expect to see hotties there, just pissed off citizens and employees determined to do the absolute minimum. I'll take Assmanjoe's word on the explanations, he seems knowledgeable on the subject. I'll also repeat with another clear expert in the field mentioned, "red beans and rice didn't miss her." I don't know the science or if there is any, but my anecdotal observations suggest there is a correlation there. The Cuban chicks around here at least do eat plenty of beans.

I'd agree with iknowbetter's assessment, except for the air dances at Scarlett's bit. I'd say they're lower contact, they're not likely to kiss or even let you suck a nipple, they're almost certainly not gonna stick their hands down your pants, but not what I'd call air dances either. Tootsies isn't the worst place, for a while there it was really bad with like half the girls not even wanting to do lap dances, either demanding you do a 3-4-100 set or outright only doing rooms at sky high prices. But I stopped in after the Orange bowl a few weeks ago with some friends and we had a good time. I would say of the 3 places you mentioned Tootsies is most likely to have the bimbo types. E11even, as mentioned can have some absolute motherfucking knockouts. It's kinda expensive, and really very night-club ish. I think I've kinda exceeded the age where I'm willing to tolerate a night club, it sure as shit isn't something I seek out. Cheetah Hallendale is right across the street from Scarlett's, if you do check out Scarlett's you can check there too. I'm not a huge fan of that joint, and I'd probably recommend a day visit over night, but it's worth a few minutes and a few bucks for an Uber and a beer to check it out if you're nearby. The girls there tend to be pretty eager to please in the dance rooms for moderate tips.

Miami is a big place. Pretty much any club in south Florida offers significant two way contact for dances. Sure, some offer more than others but even the clean clubs are pretty high contact. I'm not super familiar with all the Miami clubs, I'm most familiar with the Pompano clubs, but its a bit of a stretch to call them Miami. If they're included in your area, BT Pompano has a bunch of chicks with boots. I hate boots. Quality at BT has dropped massively over the last 6 months, at least for my tastes. But given your description, you might love em. They're nearly all Latinas, mostly thicker, lots of fake tits and asses, tons of makeup, hair and lash extensions, and yes those stupid thigh high boots. Cheetah's got much better looking girls IMO, more natural and slimmer. Diamond Dolls for years has been the hands down place to go for cartoon inspired bimbos. In recent months they've toned that down and have a mix of those girls and some natural ones. DD's table dances are air dances now, enforced by management for the time being at least. Mileage in the individual song booth is down too, with girls pushing hard for the 3-song stall. But, if you're up for that DD might be your option. At Tootsies, you'll have a hard time finding a girl who'll dance for you to LDK. If you do, they'll likely demand a tip comparable to what you'd pay for FS at other clubs. You'll also likely have trouble finding girls who'll make out. You'll get the occasional kisser, sure, but I wouldn't count on making out. Super hot girls is harder to meet. It depends on your taste. Scarlett's had some hotties the last time I was there, just after New Years, but they had been pretty middle of the road the previous several visits. They weren't really the bimbo types tho. Some guys love the girls at Booby Trap on the River and Klub 24, but I find them overweight and trashy. But, they do love those stupid boots at those places too. Really though, any of the mainstream popular clubs should work for what you're describing. Super-hot girls is gonna be tough, but you'll likely find one or two to your liking at most clubs.

Absolutely, fake tits and all. https://www.instagram.com/p/C9DEf-kOu9G/?img_index=1

I'm just hoping those Cali girls don't all come here thinking this is LA.

I'd point her towards where they put the day old stuff out behind the doughnut shop and walk away. Not interested.

What do you do when you see a necro post?

There's a not a lot of things I detest more than pedo's and rapists, but people who make false accusations about those things are on that list. Fuck those kids, I hope they get real jail time.

You're likely to get wildly varied responses. Your area, the types of clubs and strippers you like, and your personal style will have to come in to play to find something that works for you. For me, on the topic of conversation, I'm not an exceptional conversationalist. I usually try to read the room. I also don't really do a whole lot of talking the first time I meet them. I like to build a little rapport, but I don't like to waste my time blabbing away with a girl who gives shitty dances/rooms any more than they want to waste their time talking to a customer who doesn't spend. On subsequent visits, usually I'll pick up a previous topic and go into it more. I absolutely do not pay them just to talk, certainly not at the rate I would for dances. That's insane to me. If I engage with a girl for an extended period, and then for some reason do not end up getting dances I might toss her a few bucks for leading her on or to encourage her to try again if it wasn't her fault I'm bailing. As far as negotiating and getting super specific about those sorts of things. My recommendation is don't do it. You're on this site, read the reviews for the club you're going to and know what's typical in terms of extras and cost. I simply turn down offers that are way above market, I find the girls who want to haggle aren't worth the effort. Or perhaps they feel the same, either way. It's not a match and time to move on. Girls who are slightly above market, I evaluate. If I feel she's hot enough and I've gotten a good vibe I'll just pay it. Usually though, I try to avoid that whole scenario by simply offering what I feel is market rate and refusing to haggle. I've found this approach to work best for me. When it comes to things like kissing, oral, condom use, I absolutely do not discuss those sort of details. Best case, she agrees and it becomes mechanical. She knows she's gotta kiss you, let you lick her nipples and/or pussy or whatever, do a cbj, and fuck. She's gonna do each one for 15 seconds before checking off the next item on the punchlist. More common, you call attention to it and she decides she'd rather not do that shit. I roll the dice and let things happen naturally. Sure, sometimes I get a dud. But you learn quickly to identify those girls out front or during a few dances. You should be able to get a vibe during a couple of lap dances. Pay attention during the dance, if you go to kiss her and she pulls away, take the hint and respect the boundaries. Don't assume reluctance to d one thing will apply to everything, often times girls will just have one or two things they prefer not to do for whatever reason, while they're open and free in other areas.

All day, with a smile on my face and a hole in my wallet.

Intellectually, I agree too. While I'd fuck the shit out of Kendall, I wouldn't touch the others unless it meant a big paycheck.

Toronto was a good place for strip clubs when the exchange rate was 1:1 or so, I think I recall at some point even CAD being worth more than USD, at least when you factored in the exchange fees. But as shai said, the area around the airport has a good mix of clubs. Prices are great, girls are attractive, and the exchange is just the icing on the cake. IME, the girls happily take USD too. What I really like about that area is the thicc trend hadn't caught on up there. They had some fatties, but most of the girls were still slim and fit.

You bastard, you tricked me. I didn't notice this was in political and looked. I'd probably bang her, but I don't want to talk to her any more than I want to talk to the far right either.

That's not Red Garter. Red Garter Saloon is an actual strip club. A little touristy with some ROB's dancers like any other south Florida club, but I wouldn't call it a clip joint at all. That place is the Key West VIP Gentlemen's Club, and it is 100% a clip joint. They've been robbing people for years. They promise sex in a room for a reasonable price with a decent looking chick. They've got chicks posted up outside on that little balcony like it's Thailand or something. Once you pay, they leave you in a little room for a while, an uglier chick comes in and demands more money to do anything. If you refuse and demand a refund, they try to have you fill out that form saying you asked for and paid for sex and they refused, then they blackmail you with it. If you're walking by, you'll regularly see the cops there doing exactly what was in the first part of this clip. The stories about that place are pretty legendary to teenagers in the area. Growing up, those stories are actually what kept me from going into strip clubs for a long time, and kept me from doing rooms for a long time after that. I thought all strip clubs were like that.

Depends on the trip, the length and purpose. For driving from Palm Beach to Key West, around 4 hours or so of at least partially nice scenic roads, a sporty convertible sedan is nice. A real sports or muscle car can be fun, but if there's traffic it can get tedious and uncomfortable. For a long, cross country type haul, you can't beat a large truck in my opinion. Crew Cab, Dually, Diesel. I prioritize comfort and reliability on longer stints, but will sacrifice both for fun on shorter rides. Towing, cargo space, and the like again are are really purpose dependent. If I'm bringing the boat to the keys for a fishing trip, I kinda need to be able to tow it. If I don't need the boat, wtf do I need towing for. Some idea with cargo, an little back with enough for the weekend in a hotel can fit in anything, but If I'm going camping or tailgating, I probably have gear to tote. Fuel economy doesn't really factor much into it for me. I suppose ideal would be some kind of Grand Touring car that would be a bit out of my price range. Or something a little larger where I can be driven, but again that's not in my budget.

Ma'am, that looks like a charge for renting a conference room at the Executive Center in Baton Rouge. Tell your husband/bf I said you're welcome. Seriously, I have no idea wtf a charge from there looks like. But, you're on a site full of strip club customers, I wouldn't count on a lot of guys here clamoring to confirm your suspicions/incriminate anyone.

Around here the term hammered to mean very drunk is common. I would have nothing to do with that girl in that state, but if she wasn't so drunk I might talk to her. But that sorta drunkenness better not be normal, I got no time for dealing with that shit on the regular.

I think that shit died years ago.

I guess I'm a Floriduh yahoo, so I'm not worried about the snow. But, they're talking about it at my company. They've been on a big RTO push, have been preaching about how we can't work effectively from home, but are pushing now for WFH again. It's not going over well with the masses and I find it fucking hilarious.

If I tip is variable. Usually, no. Like others have said, the agreed price is kinda the tip. But at a lot of places around here there are unofficial market set prices for girls. When girls do a good job in a place like that and I want to see them again or potentially OTC, I'll usually give them a little more than we agreed on. When I tip is simpler. After. Always after. I believe tips are appreciation or reward for exceptional service. I know you can make the argument that a tip before the service is provided is a way to encourage exceptional service, but in the stripper business I've not found that to be true. In other situations, it might be. If a girl asks to be paid in advance, I won't tip. In that case, I feel like she already got a tip in the form of not risking nonpayment and instead transferring the risk of nonperformance to me. That, and I find that every girl who as ever asked to be paid up front has provided sub-par service and I didn't want to tip anyway.

Hey, wait a minute. Stop all this talk. You guys stick to the fat chicks and leave my slim girls alone. There are already so few of them in the clubs, i don't need more of you dirtbags horning in on them.

I don't know, she looks kinda phony to me. Maybe photoshoped, filters, or even AI generated. Can't put my finger on it, but that eye just doesn't look quite natural to me and I really prefer natural girls.

Many of us here prefer OTC to ITC. The math for me is not the same as yours, because my situation and market are different. But the conclusion is very much the same. That doesn't mean you can cut out the club entirely though. They still serve a purpose, to put the two sides together and facilitate the development of a rapport. Some folks seem to be fine with using the internet to post/view ads and just meet up, but I'd rather not get into that. I much prefer meeting a dancer at a club, spending some time chatting and maybe having a drink, doing some dances or maybe more. Generally just getting familiar with one another and making sure we'd be comfortable in a more private situation. Then, it makes sense for the two of us financially to take it OTC. As you said, neither of us has to pay the variety of fees that feed the club. I can pay less, she can make more; win-win. As far as a counter goes, the club still has a value in providing that fertile ground for the introductions. If the club fails, IMO the alternate options for setting up similar arrangements are much less appealing to me than the club. So I wouldn't say OTC breaks or ruins ITC. I'd say the approach that works for me is using the club as a way to facilitate OTC. Sure, I spend a little more at the club than I would on something like Seeking but I get some enjoyment out of the club itself, vs scrolling through profiles online which I find tedious. My success rate in-person at clubs is also much higher than online. Perhaps my online technique just sucks, but I'm not inclined to invest in it as long as clubs remain a viable option.

No thanks, all yours. Wouldn't look twice.

That sucks. I never really liked that place, but that's two clubs down in the area this last year. Gold Club and Solid Gold. I think they priced themselves out and tried to be too fancy. Besides the name, the thing other both of those clubs had in common was that they didn't do $10 table dances. And Solid Gold also charged $30 for lap dances. Between the gowns and the prices, I just almost never had any fun over there. The few times I did have a good time, it was cause I went to see a bartender or dancer from another club that started working there. Pompano is not Miami, or even Ft Lauderdale and certainly not Palm Beach, I don't see demand for that fancy shit. Or maybe there just isn't enough demand to keep all those clubs alive in the area. I suppose the location didn't help, but I really couldn't care less about that. It's not like it was super sketchy, just a little out of the way. And I'm willing to go out of my way a bit for a good club. I drive twice as far to go to the Cheetah in Pompano vs the one in Palm Beach, because Pompano is 10x better. As far as the comparison to Follies, like Follies Solid gold was forced to close by Oakland Park, the city was in originally. They fought it from the day it opened I think, and eventually won. In any case, I sorta expect someone will buy/lease the assets and try again. Although, it is near the area they're trying hard to clean up, so maybe the city won't allow transfer of the license or at least make it too difficult for someone else.