Comments by bendover656

I'll second georgmircrodong's thoughts. You spent a lot of energy commenting on a post you dislike. I'm sure you gonna love my next topic: "What makes us want to go to strip clubs?"

I like a nipple in my mouth and a wet finger on her clit and her enjoying it. Nothing is more of a turn-on for me than for a dancer to get wet.

When a dancer tries to be sexy and puts her head close to mine and her breath makes my toes curl. Any chance of eroticism is killed at that point. When a dancer moves my hands away from her breasts. In the clubs I go to that is considered a minimum requirement of a dance. What are you dancing at a club like this for? At that point, I become extremely bored. When a dancer has the attitude that I'm lucky to be able to be near her. I want my dancer to at least pretend she likes it.

Interesting discussion. I don't travel as much as I used to so I have to rough it at home. Fortunately, I don't have to suffer too much as The City of Industry is about 45 min. away. Even a couple of clubs behind the Orange Curtain (Orange County)have become even more playful as of late. Another area that one would think would be good is Vegas. I find clubs there over-priced, mercenary, and generally unsatisfying. What's odd is that in all the hotels on the strip one can find working girls very easily. Sometimes they will even approach you. But clubs are a lot of tease and not a lot of satisfaction. Places to go on my bucket list: 1. Miami 2. Detroit 3. Tucson

Some very good lame lines! I may steal the line about looking for someone bad. I also like the one about loaning me money to pay for your dance.

I know it sounds a bit old-fashioned but I'm really attracted to ladies with pretty faces. It makes the rest of the package just that much more appealing. Even if they are not my favorite body type, if they have a pretty face and smile then I'm interested. As has been already mentioned, attitude also either makes it all work or not. If they're pretty but stuck-up then I'll pass. No one is that hot to put up with that sh*t.

It was meant to be a provocative question but I really don't think all women are whores. Whores has a negative connotation and can be used to describe anybody who "sells out" for money or power. There are women who are genuinely in love with their SO and have sex as an expression of that. But it's often fleeting and eventually becomes a "what have you done for me lately" type of relationship. Women know they have power over males and eventually use it to get what they want. Men want sex and are willing to work and pay for it and will often "whore" themselves in a way in order to get that money.

A wealthy man and an attractive woman meet at a party. Eventually, he asks her if she would sleep with him for a million dollars. She's a bit taken aback but then re-considers and says, "yes, I would sleep with you for a million dollars." He then asks if she would sleep with him for a 100 dollars. She's quite offended and says, "what kind of woman do you think I am"? He says, "we've already determined that and now we are just haggling over your price."

Please don't blame it on all us Californians! I live in OC where there is a very large population of conservatives. I would have a hard time living anywhere there is a majority of liberals. Dudester is correct about two different culture centers. And that is how our Republic is supposed to work. The concept of Federalism is to allow the states to be independent and be a "test" for different ideas. Obviously, Texas' ideas are working much better than California's. Wherever liberals are in power that place is a mess e.g., San Francisco, New York city, Chicago, LA, etc. I love Texas, by the way. I may even move there someday when California becomes intolerable. And they have great SC's!

Don't you love it when rent is due? There's suddenly a lot more dancers working and somehow their attitudes are a little better too. I love the concept of supply and demand - especially in a sc!

Doesn't anyone else just hit 7-eleven like I do before I go to the club and buy a packet of condoms? Sometimes I don't get to use them and I'll hand it to some lucky fuck walking b Rule number 1 - Don't keep any physical evidence that can't be denied.

Some excellent points. SC's definitely are more socially acceptable and most don't know what goes on in many SC's. I actually knew of someone that was busted in a amp and they had a tape and there wasn't much he could argue with. Pretty frightening. I also was almost busted in Tampa years ago and Mons Venus. It was my first visit there (business trip) and I'd heard of a six-foot rule. Well, when I was at the club I could see it wasn't being enforced by club management. Suddenly, the music stopped and the lights were turned up and a swat team charged in. A policeman said to me to stay right where I was and that I might be going to jail (I was sitting next to a topless dancer but not dancing). Fortunately, since I wasn't getting a dance I wasn't arrested. What a load of crap and since then things have gone back to normal. How unfair for an out-of-towner to get caught up in that where I had no knowledge of it. Anyway, sc's are still safer and more acceptable.

Hey rickdugan. I'll send you a pm from another handle. Lopaw - I totally agree. There are many PL's who prefer eye candy than HM and that is cool. For those of us who have been at this a while usually we like the other type of club. Hell, I can remember when I first started going to clubs about 10 years ago I didn't even know you could touch the girls. I just sat on my hands. Things sure have changed and the industry has changed too.

Wow. I didn't think I would start such a controversy with my question. I do think it's best to be discreet when writing reviews. No need to give blatant intimate detail. I think one can get across that you had a very good time without resorting to naming specific acts. But I thought it would be OK just to discuss well-known HM clubs in a general way. For example, as I have already mentioned in my area the City of Industry clubs are known as being "fun" clubs. If I was an out of town visitor in LA that's where I would go instead of the plethora of clubs all over LA. Even before I asked this question, I'd heard of Detroit and Miami to be great spots for HM clubs. I doubt this information would be of any danger to those clubs. I certainly can understand, however, if some clubs are getting raided and PL's don't want to discuss anything that might get their favorite club raided. Again, I wasn't asking for anything specific but just general guidelines for hunting the right clubs. As far as my handle, I really want to protect my privacy and if someone were to find out my screen name and do some searching it could be devastating to me. So I prefer to periodically change my screen name and start over. I also use local websites much more often for the LA scene (zbone and yahoo groups) and haven't used tuscl as much. But I have been reading and posting on tuscl for years.

That's such a waste of resources for LE to get involved like that. I almost got arrested in Tampa many years ago when they were trying to enforce a 6 foot rule. There was a raid and I was only talking to a topless girl not dancing so I didn't get charged. Of course now I believe Tampa is going stronger than ever. But what a bogus effort in the grand scheme of things. There always has been prostitution and always will be. Yes, there should be some limits but trying to outlaw it would be like tying to outlaw divorce. It's never going to happen and I think it's actually healthy for adult males to be able to let off some steam in a responsible, legal way.

I appreciate all the stimulating discussion and other HM areas mentioned. I wanted to add a little more to the topic. I'm still on cloud nine from my latest SC adventure. I went to my favorite club (DVCOI) and met up with a dancer I hadn't danced with in some time. She has totally upped her game from the last time we danced. She's one of those dancers who doesn't know how hot she is and has not yet been callused by the business. We had a very intimate dance and she wanted very much to please. My point is she upped her game because of the club she works at. I doubt very much our dance would have been at the level it was if she worked at a conservative club. So while I pretty much agree with all of the points being made, one's chances of a HM experience greatly increases at a liberal club. I know that's pretty obvious but that is why I asked the original question of where are HM strip club areas. A total newbie could go to DVCOI and have the greatest time in the world but it probably wouldn't last too long - he he. Btw, wallonon, I have posted under different handles as I like to keep my anonymity.

Hey Vince, Thanks for the info! Can you give a recommendation (in case I ever get out there) for a couple of good clubs in Detroit that aren't overly expensive but offer excellent mileage? If you ever visit LA drop me a line and I can recommend some spots that will knock your socks off.

Yes, I agree with you to an extent. No need to give overly explicit details in the reviews. But just to ask which clubs or areas in the US give the highest mileage I think is a general enough question not to be dangerous. Likewise, if the owner of Tuscl decided to include a mileage rating it wouldn't need to be more explicit than just a rating. If one rated a club a "10" in terms of mileage that would give enough information for the members without attracting too much attention (IMHO). For example, it's pretty well known the City of Industry (east of LA) is a mecca for HM strip clubs. There would not need to be any more explicit information given other than to say a certain club deserves a "10" in terms of mileage. Yes, I know that LE may be reading the boards too but then they already do that and can decipher the same information that is currently already on the boards. Anyway, to recap what has already been suggested. Some of the top HM areas include: 1. City of Industry 2. Detroit 3. South Florida 4. Rhode Island 5. Tampa 6. El Paso

Wallanon, Well, first of all, I'm no noob. My knowledge and experience of the so. cal. scene is pretty extensive. I'm able to find and experience incredible mileage and I offer that knowledge to anyone who wants to know more about my area. I'm not as knowledgeable about other areas and that is why I asked the question. Even though Tuscl gives a tremendous amount of useful information it's sometimes difficult to wade through all it to get to HM clubs specifically. Often, mileage (in terms of getting UHM, for example)is absent from reviews and/or the reviewer is coy about it. Once you've had UHM on a regular basis in a club it's hard to settle for "good two-way contact" unless that includes vhm or uhm. Hence my original question.

Thanks for all the info! I certainly didn't mean to disparage Detroit. When I said I couldn't think of an excuse to go there I meant that my wife wouldn't understand why I'd be going to Detroit. They need to have more conventions and such so I can give a believable reason to go there. Other than that it sounds like a great place for a monger. I'm going to have to check out Pasco County on Tuscl to find out more about that. I've been to Tampa many years ago and really liked Mons Venus. That was before I'd really experienced HM in a club. I've heard of other clubs in the area that are HM and the girls are beautiful. I've heard RI is HM but I also heard there may have been some recent changes to that? A side note. Wouldn't it be a good idea for Tuscl. to have a mileage rating? One could do a search based on the mileage of clubs to find the HM clubs. It seems many of the highly rated clubs are because of the beautiful dancers, nice decor, or allowing some touching (but not necessarily HM).

I agree Mexico is a fantastic place for "dances". I go to Mazatlan every year and the mileage and value is off the charts. The ladies are beautiful too. I'm not quite as comfortable going to TJ's as I used to be. Hong Kong was my favorite when I did go. South Florida sounds very interesting. I love the look of ladies from Central America/Carribean. And if it's cheap all the better! I'm going to have to put that on my bucket list.

I didn't see that thread. The question still stands, though. It's sometimes hard to decipher the rating of a club and figure out if it's HM or not. Some PL's rate clubs highly on other factors besides the mileage. It does sound like Detroit is a place to visit. I just can't think of a good enough excuse to go there for a visit! I imagine they have a lot of chocolate ladies which I really like as long as they are petite.

Much of the world (America in particular) is very naive when it comes to sex.&nbsp; Men are genetically programmed to reproduce with many women.&nbsp; Women are programmed to nest and to attract strong and secure men.&nbsp; It doesn't mean we can't control these urges but to deny they exist is foolhardy.<br /> <br /> To be around naked women is tremendously exciting for men.&nbsp; I guess some men can control these urges better than I because going to strip clubs is still looked down upon by most.&nbsp; Perhaps, a lot of men aren't aware of what is available today in SC's and, if they did, might be tempted more.<br /> <br /> There have been long periods in my life where I was not tempted and was satisfied by my SO.&nbsp; As I've grown older, the availability and excitement of having young, ripe women to fondle and play with creates a pretty intense desire.&nbsp; Maybe once one has tasted the forbidden fruit it's too late.<br /> <br /> <br type="_moz" />

Good points you raised.&nbsp; Some of the reviews are a little thin in the thoroughness department.&nbsp; It's interesting how ratings vary substantially from reviewer to reviewer for the same clubs.&nbsp; For example, I want good looking dancers who put out.&nbsp; That is what I look for but others, obviously, may not be into that and are just looking for a good time and to have a few drinks.&nbsp; <br /> <br /> With some of the higher rated clubs I wonder really&nbsp; how good are the dances.&nbsp; Some reviewers are not aware of what is available and commonplace at many clubs but very scarce at others.<br /> <br /> While I don't think intimate details need to be given it would seem appropriate to indicate if the dances are hands-on or very satisfying.&nbsp; Personally, If a dancer allows touching I don't necessarily consider that a high-mileage dance.&nbsp; <br /> <br /> What might be considered a higher-mileage club in a conservative area could really be a lower-mileage club when compared to more liberal areas.<br type="_moz" />

All I can say is thank god for COI! &nbsp; It's really an adult Disneyland.&nbsp; I think it has played a major role in &quot;loosening up&quot; many sc's in other areas in order for them to compete.&nbsp; I don't want to give COI too much attention but I think it has influenced the general trend of higher mileage in many LA area SC's. <br type="_moz" />