Comments by lunabird

well seeing as MOST women are in general are weaker than men... I dont see how she could have penetrated and held this man in place and seeing as no other women are being prosecuted, she was the only one responsible for doing the deed, The club is also not being sued, which I think would be the target of a lawsuit since they allowed it... unless, deep down he enjoyed it and did not want to get that type of experience. There are also many steps. Me personally, if I saw a dildo being pulled out on stage, the first thing I would do is run if thats not what I wanted. also just because dancing is allowed and nudity is allowed... does NOT mean sex or any penetration is allowed.

I find this hard to believe...

Some girls have bad nights. We have home lives and such that get in the way of work at times, just like at many jobs. Its hard to provide the customer with a perfect little fantasy land for them to live in while the girl is distracted. However, like at most jobs some people (girls) just suck at work. Its a gamble that may be worth it. Also take in experience. I remember my first few lap dances where strange and overall an awkward experience for not just the customer. Also, you may be a more experienced lap dance getter and the talent that the club exudes is not to your standards (like college towns where the um.... 'gentlemen' want a quick grind from a few girls... if that is what the majority wants.. then that is what everyone will get). -luna

50 dollars worth of dances... yeah ok. that shouldn't get you much in my book. and if it does, I would use ALOT of protection... perhaps by keeping my pants on. I do not codone extras.. because your there for a dance... pick up a phone and call someone so you wont get dicked around because thats their JOB.. a job of a dancer is self explanatory. Some girls are professional rip off artist btw. and this one who has you running all over town.. well. sounds fishy to say the least. a package? lol go the speed limit my friend and obey the laws.. you are perhaps picking up drugs... like I always say... We and when I say we I mean dancers.... LIE

I would have to say its for conversation. I personally.. have cats and talk about animals. why? cuz most likely the other person has one. It something to have in common. Most women in strip cubs have children, and guess what? they are the ones most of the time taking care of them. they might be at moms house for the night, because said dad has peaced out. Would I say alot of girls leave them with their parents to take care of... no. not at all. Most have families at home. granted those families may use drugs or drink.. but I would find it hard to believe that even people not affiliated with stripping and have children are sober 100% of the time. Its all relative

oh and if you have anymore questions I am here!

well no. it hasn't increased or decreased over all. I have however been to many clubs and when you are at a place for a period of time.. and perhaps said place isnt nice boss or customer wise.. then yes, a slight decrease. if she is happy, feels safe, and its not to much pressure.. i dont see why. its all about a healthy atmosphere. and finding the right club. (and semi enjoying the job) Also i have read about the reviews you have posted. keep in mind dancers might only be friendly for the money. Co workers matter when you first start.. she may not want to start at a hustler club. This is where girls are here for cash and cash only. at a slower club she can learn the ropes.. you wouldn't want to throw he in sapphire club in las vegas. that comes later. At these smaller clubs the girls are willing to show the newbies tricks. lines to get boys in the back rooms. You cannot learn that at a large club... girls are too busy. plus everything is new, from the personality to the dress, both which are developed over time. WE girls are very good actresses. You dont learn that in a night. What I am getting at its a progression. Smaller clubs generally are able to monitor the girls more and extras are harder to do (unless thats what it is for). This way she will get comfortable talking with guys and possibly practice saying no is a polite way that will keep the customer at a distance, but still get some money and into the back room. A trick needed for the bigger clubs. As long as she is happy the sex drive will not subside. that was quite a bit of rambling

txtittyfan, yeah I do admit some girls like the attention and will do more. Really whether they do it for money or fun I do not know. Perhaps both? why give it out for free, when someone is there to pay. While I do not have a problem with this by itself.. I DO have a problem when it becomes expected from all the girls. However, to Kalel, some clubs have very strict policies that make following the rules very easy (cameras, signs saying whats excepted, etc) that way there is no confusion between dancer and client. I would also admit that it is hard turning the stripper part off. Some men tend to get alittle grabby at clubs. What I have noticed when I come home (usually from more of a night club setting with laxed rules.. say most clubs in tampa) I notice when my boyfriend makes sudden moves it is an instinct to knock his hand away. This bothered even him for a while until he noticed it was a defense mechanism against other people. Little traits like that DO follow us home. As long as you do not take them personally... its not that big of deal. When your at work for 8 hours 5 days a week, no matter what that job may be, you bring alittle of it home.

I would say set boundaries. Look at clubs she may work at. Some clubs the girls make OK money with air dances and pasties (I know shocking!!!) and some you need to provide extras. I personally do have a boyfriend of three years. He is ok with one way touching lap dances (which I have found the perfect club for that and make descent money at). Guys do not "spit on my nipples" and never once have I been tempted by money other guys throw at me. I have never done a weekend stay or had an OTC date. why you may ask? cuz of the relationship. It is surely ludicrous to think that a marriage cannot survive this... and I hate to shock most guys here... MOST of us have boyfriends/husbands... we lie to you. if we didn't where would the money come from? its a fantasy world... and thats that. I do not deny some girls are more... shall I say loose? but that doesn't mean your wife cannot be a strong person and go there for a JOB. She isn't an escort. and this may be another shocker... not all of us are whores! lol but some YES are... but those give us a bad name. I believe my job description say dancer and NOT leg spreader.

The thing is about this article is if the market is so bad people cannot recieve jobs then who is paying the strippers? In Michigan the jobs are down and the girs are lucky to make 200 on a saturday night, which isn't terrible... but isn't really that great ether.

(slighty off topic) How, thank you so much! <3 I think I am enjoying the discussion boards more and more. and I agree with shadow. Don't lend money you need!

why would you loan someone you do not know that well a large sum of money..? (trust me sweetie... 4 dinner dates and a few club meetings don't mean anything)sounds silly to me.. but thats the risk with lending ANYONE money. Thats why judge shows exsist (you know Mathis, Judy, etc...) and day time tv. lol. Are all those people strippers? no, their shitty people. Not all of us are shitty people. although I do find your predicament sad, KNOW that could have been ANYONE. It is VERY narrow minded to believe that ONLY strippers will take your money and run. It is also narrow minded to think that all strippers want everything from you. A word to the wise don't lend anyone money. I thought this was, however, common sense. Your 45 year old friend could have made her rent in a night or two if she worked hard. Duh. Most girls could make rent in a day at the right club. YOU should know this being a regular to the club circuit. As you put it... 'enough said'

I am just saying that not ALL dancers are out for YOUR cash, when in a relationship... thats why we have the job in the first place, so we can make money for ourselves. Although granted there are many girls out to play guys, however, its unfair to suspect all strippers are out for YOUR money... THen you might also want to consider: why do YOU want to date a dancer? Is it because... gee we are so nice? or is it because you want to know what it is like to date and take home a stripper and perhaps show her off to your friends to say 'lookie what I got'? It is a two way street really. Perhaps we are both being used in the relationship. I don't really like to think so though. However, I must add, without the relationship, yes, we are out for your money. go figure right?

She probably did not tell them.. Most girls just up and leave without a word.

I don't quiet understand why a stripper, like myself, is always considered to be out for money. I dated a guy for a really long time while I danced. I never asked for money. We need love too. What you have to realize is that it is a new lifestyle and that you have to have alot of trust in us girls... not all of us are whores, we are dancers not escorts. And if she is a good dancer, she wont need your money. However, some girls are both, you need to find out which she is. There is no reason this wont work out if she is doing her job the legal way and if you both set up agreeable boundaries. just like in any other relatiobship not involving a stripper.

I would say a nice dinner is something I would feel comfortable with, in both parties. Girls can get defensive and wierded out if you come to her house. Also what you see at the club may not be what she is like else where. In other words she could be a complete pyscho. haha, but thats only some. I also agree that if it is a paid thing, a hotel room, until you both feel comfortable that nether of you is crazy. I dont mean to sound offensive, but when a customer asked me out I usually assume that they might get a little stalker-ish.. but we all have different experiences! Good luck!

yes definatly. some of us girls get scared, its best if you say what you want before the dance. that way she knows what you want and knows you are not part of a sting. Also then if she doesn't give you a definate "yes" or "ok" then you obviously know your not going to get what you want. I am not condoning 'extras', but hey we need our fun too. plus we don't want to go to jail... and the likelyhood of there being vice officers imperssinating dancers are slim.