Hey, I just looked at the reviews for Mitchell Brothers O'Farrell Theater (SF). The club is getting pretty low reviews overall. This used to be the best club in the Bay Area. Do any of you guys who live in SF know what happened to the club? Why has the club gone downhill? Or are the reviewers just being really negative?
MB was my introduction to quality high mileage strip clubs in 1991. The place had energy and a party vibe with 20 plus dancers during peak times and averaged dancers in the 7-9 and occasional 10 range. All the rooms were used on schedule and the seating or booths would fill up when they announced the shows. The dances were off the charts and yes FS was always available but not the absolute objective of nearly every dancer.
Now it's just high cover/high pressure sell to engage in FS, the dancer quality and numbers seem to be way down, and most of the vibe is gone. Sure you can still have a good time here with the right dancer but IMHO it's just not the same overall. Finally, it's far too expensive. I don't care to drop $300 in ten minutes flat...I'll spend more if I can have say 45 minutes to an hour of great laps, a little conversation, and maybe a special treat at the end.
Hope that helps. I don't live in SF but traveled there couple times a year for about 8 years.
islaguy1 is right. I stopped by yesterday. The prices are way to high for what you get. I was told that a VIP dance starts at $, and that's just to feed the meter in the room, you also have to tip the dancer on top of that, whatever you negotiate. Within the last few weeks there's a desk outside the VIP cabanas that the dancers need to check in with before going to a room, and that guy will come by and knock when time is up. Also they have pulled down most of the blackout cabana privacy curtains and replaced them with white sheer curtains.
Higher hustle and higher prices for less service and less privacy. And with better bang for your buck else where, that's why all the reviews are down.
I can only speculate that the management has changed. The new management presumably is just milking the reputation for all the $$$$ he can get his hands on, and as long as the rubes keep coming thru the door and coughing up the cash, he'll keep rippin' 'em off. Sad demise of a once-attractive club.
By demise, I mean the demise of the attractiveness, not the demise of the club. One of the great benefits of TUSCL is that we members find out things like this without ever having to walk thru the door.
A lot can change in 5-6 yrs, Officer. The thing I'm discerning from numerous reviews is that MBOT is the kind of place where you can have your wallet & pipes cleaned out in 10-20 minutes. That is not everyone's cup of tea. If that style floats your boat, GKYSO!!!
Going to the MBOT used to be a great night out. You could spend 2-3 hours there, watching the floor show (i.e. typical strippers), watching porno's with occassional girls coming in to sqirm in your lap to entice you out for more fun, and then visit the specialty "room" shows. Just a few years ago, if you went in with a plan, with discipline; you could experience everything and finish with a bang or no bang (hey, it just came out that way!). This could take a full evening and a full wallet--or as little as you would want to spend. But it was true destination and a great night out "guy" experience. Now it seems the pressure is on to get you in, finished and out too quickly. That's not really a night out. I haven't been there in 10 year's, but that's the difference I perceive from all the posts.
Last time in SF I hit every club in town except for MBOT (and MSC which will likely never get a visit again). It opened too late on Sunday and no way was I paying their night shift cover after leaving MBOT-lite around the corner at New Century. When I first saw the place it shifted my expectations of what to expect in clubs, but now it's more of a drop by (if I have time) spot than a destination club.
Especially for guys who are new to the scene. Nice variety of girls with some lookers, hot stageside action, and the potential for fun in back. That's a place to grab a taxi to, though, if it's sometime at night. I've parked down there and nothing is really convenient to the club. Up on Broadway I'd say it's Little Darlings, but that strip is more of a social and business type area than anything hardcore.
My first stop next time in town would be New Century if it's day or Pink Diamonds at night, but neither place is for everybody.
You'd really blame Meta? MBOT's downfall happened in 2007(ish), and was directly a consequence of MBOT losing the big dancer lawsuit that cost them millions. Management cranked prices waaaay up after that, presumably to cover the ginormous backpay, punitive damages, costs of dancer employee status going forward, etc., and unfortunately have been pretty outrageous since. The girls themselves piled on, increasing their own prices by not just their increased cost, but padding even more. That, in turn, led to lower traffic, which led to fewer and less hot girls, etc. Vicious cycle.
I don't know enough about MBOT's business to say whether Meta really has room to do what I think is the only thing that could bring MBOT back to its previous glory -- lower prices from its current out-fucking-rageous levels, to its former merely-outrageous prices (which many of us in tech could afford, and were willing to pay for top-shelf beautiful girls)
Okay, I did not know her name, but I had known a dancer in San Mateo who knew Meta and had talked with her.
As far as being a tourist trap, well yes. Dives that give great service get busted. Expensive tourist traps that give more fantasy than delivery don't get busted, they just rake in money.
We need more strip clubs, more dives, more disposable clubs opened with very little money.
Clearly in other area of the country it must be much easier to open a new strip club. And then you have these places which are willing to risk getting closed, simply to rake in more money in the present.
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Now it's just high cover/high pressure sell to engage in FS, the dancer quality and numbers seem to be way down, and most of the vibe is gone. Sure you can still have a good time here with the right dancer but IMHO it's just not the same overall. Finally, it's far too expensive. I don't care to drop $300 in ten minutes flat...I'll spend more if I can have say 45 minutes to an hour of great laps, a little conversation, and maybe a special treat at the end.
Hope that helps. I don't live in SF but traveled there couple times a year for about 8 years.
Higher hustle and higher prices for less service and less privacy. And with better bang for your buck else where, that's why all the reviews are down.
I can only speculate that the management has changed. The new management presumably is just milking the reputation for all the $$$$ he can get his hands on, and as long as the rubes keep coming thru the door and coughing up the cash, he'll keep rippin' 'em off. Sad demise of a once-attractive club.
By demise, I mean the demise of the attractiveness, not the demise of the club. One of the great benefits of TUSCL is that we members find out things like this without ever having to walk thru the door.
Especially for guys who are new to the scene. Nice variety of girls with some lookers, hot stageside action, and the potential for fun in back. That's a place to grab a taxi to, though, if it's sometime at night. I've parked down there and nothing is really convenient to the club. Up on Broadway I'd say it's Little Darlings, but that strip is more of a social and business type area than anything hardcore.
My first stop next time in town would be New Century if it's day or Pink Diamonds at night, but neither place is for everybody.
I don't know enough about MBOT's business to say whether Meta really has room to do what I think is the only thing that could bring MBOT back to its previous glory -- lower prices from its current out-fucking-rageous levels, to its former merely-outrageous prices (which many of us in tech could afford, and were willing to pay for top-shelf beautiful girls)
SJG
Holy blast from the past! A thread from 2009? Really???
As far as being a tourist trap, well yes. Dives that give great service get busted. Expensive tourist traps that give more fantasy than delivery don't get busted, they just rake in money.
We need more strip clubs, more dives, more disposable clubs opened with very little money.
SJG
She seems to have avoided the crazy gene. Her brothers, not so much.
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Clearly in other area of the country it must be much easier to open a new strip club. And then you have these places which are willing to risk getting closed, simply to rake in more money in the present.
SJG