Will Roe V. Wade being overturned impact mngering?
WILLYSGOTAWOMAN
New Jersey
1. Roe was about an umbrella of privacy. That umbrella is gone. Do we have less privacy in VIP rooms, LD areas etc...?
2. Without abortion, FS is riskier. Will the service provider pass that cost onto the customer?
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Longer term, it might have a small impact. This is the beginning of a pendulum swing bringing power back to the states. If your state is a classic liberal ( I.e, libertarian ) state, it may feel like it can liberalize various sin industries. Or, if it’s a Bible Belt state, it might tighten some rules.
So far, at least at my club, that didn’t do squat to lessen how many dancers showed up. 🤷🏻♀️
https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/new…
This was from three days ago. If you decide you'd like to actually read the statement released by the Texas AG, it states that although the US Supreme Court judgement has not been issued there are Texas laws never repealed banning abortion (and are potentially enforceable immediately). Now the tongue waggers and random lawyers are saying this is uncharted territory and the 1925 TX law was considered effectively repealed, but the sitting AG has already shown himself to be a...creative thinker. So at best in the TX it's already a tossup. The Louisiana AG has also made a public statement about their trigger law, but I just skimmed over it the other day.
But overturning roe v wade will affect prostitution in states with bans
Subraman you're like sjg. You "read" about it 🤡
I wonder if Texas and Oklahoma will see a rise in anal.
They basically overturned planned parenthood v Casey as well. Which will have a further reaching impact on privacy and bodily autonomy.
It definitely makes it harder for girls who don't have the economic means to overcome an early life accidental pregnancy. This turns back the clock for better or worse depending on your opinion.
It won't change things as much as people think. The states that will make it illegal have already made abortions extremely hard to get.
The thing I'm not sure about is whether abortion by medication can be stopped. Some states are passing shield laws, so it may still be possible to get the medication through the mail, since the sender won't have to worry about extradition. Are the cops in red states going to start seizing and inspecting packages on a massive scale?
What a lot of people on either side can't pin down is when does the zygote/fetus/baby become worthy of the protections of personhood, whether that's conception, implantation, heartbeat, pain sensation, development of whatever organ system. More people are interested in posturing to their fellows than a discussion of embryology and medical science, which is where I think it should be decided--not religion or politics.
That's true. But birth control can fail, and many FS providers report being "stealthed". I'd view it as a legit expensive risk
I think shit like this is why most "abortion bans" are like pissing in the wind.
And if you do get stealthed, take a Plan B (and shank the prick who stealthed you on the way out of the booth).
You seem to be forgetting about something, many of our anti abortion states have already enacted trigger laws that not only make abortion illegal within their jurisdictions but they criminalize citizens living within their borders, with threatened prosecutions for traveling to jurisdictions where it is legal some have gone as far as encouraging vigilantes to do the prosecutions for them.
If I were enforcing any kind of ban, I'd only go after the provider. And if I were the provider, I would conveniently mis-code my patient's visit (which doctors do all the time anyways, usually to get a better payment).
It's insane how people protesting masks during a pandemic as tyranny don't see this as tyranny.
Tetra, agree that defense in depth -- pill + condom -- is the way to go. Condom necessary for diseases as well. The pill, used correctly, is 99+% effective. It's 91-95% effective in practice due to mistakes by people taking them, according to various studies. Men seem to be blissfully unaware of this, but women, especially providers, are not. 91-95% if they make a small mistake, is not enough to not want a backup plan.
Enforcing _any_ laws like this, other than things like murder, is KGB/NKVD-like scary shit.
As far as #2, if I were an FS sex worker, I'd be more paranoid about doing FS, but I'm a risk averse person anyways. I definitely wouldn't work in a state that banned abortion.
* I do hear, anecdotally, that the week of the Republican National Convention is a bonanza for hookers. LOL.
This might be a joke, but a fair amount of conceptions occur from anal because it leaks out (or he pulls out and it drips down) into the vagina. Talk about doing it wrong.
SJG
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As he ran away he came upon that concrete monstrosity known as the LA river and had to cross it. His choice was roe vs wade. Lulz
Out here at least in my experience girls don't want to use condoms. I'm sure that will change quickly in red states
^ who says we are? I've had several condoms break during normal usage and I've not always noticed. Other methods of contraception aren't 100% effective either.
"are sex workers really that retarded enough not to have any birth control besides abortion"
^ Starting with the obvious, yes, yes they are. Not all mind you, but as a whole my experience with strippers at least has lead me to the conclusion that they are not as a whole particularly likely to give thought to consequences beyond the immediate ones. But realistically it's more complicated than that. Based on your posting history, I'm gonna assume you've got little experience with women in this area, but hormonal birth control methods can have side effects. For many, they are mild and maybe even welcome. For others, they're severe and decidedly unwelcome. Most non hormonal options aren't as effective or convenient. There's also the concept that they may want to get pregnant with someone else, just not a customer. Most other methods aren't as selective as condoms.
Going back to the original question, I'll be shocked if the next time I go to bang a stripper and she tells me "abortions are harder to get now, I need an extra $50"
we don't believe a word Iceefag says, he has no time to be doing any of this between his meth habit and posting here 24/7 it's not very credible.
20fag. You describe yourself fucking troll. Tell us more about how you're a millionaire living an extravagant life with models while you troll tuscl 247
You're welcome to stop trolling.
Sorry you're butt hurt coz girls don't want to use condoms with me.
I'm just paranoid. If I don't know her well, I assume she's completely fertile and has herpes. Triple on the herpes if she's a SW.
I've bought my share of Plan B over the years.
SJG
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In my view, there are enough other inflationary pressures that should have an effect on dance prices - and likely drink prices. If a club (or dancer) attempts to add a Roe Repeal Surcharge on her dances - she’s either an opportunistic ROB or a whore who does use birth control. I don’t have any standards - but even I might avoid that whore.
In NJ, I don’t expect anything will change as a result of the Roe decision. But my state is largely democratic - even though we have had a few republican governors.
To me, there are two separate issues. Roe and the ability to get an abortion is one, and it’s not a simple choice (for anyone considering an abortion). The other issue - regarding availability of contraception - should be a simple one - as contraception should be made as widely available as possible. I think Plan B should be made more widely available in all states.