Why young people, especially men, are having less sex
motorhead
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life
I thought we were still in the sexual revolution that started in the 60’s and everyone was getting laid.
Compare that with estimates during WW 2 that 80% of single American soldiers in Europe had sex and 50% of married soldiers
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There aren't the same family/religious pressures to get married and have kids anymore. There are more non-sex diversions like porn, weed, and video games. Young people don't know how to interact with and seduce (or be seduced by) one another like they used to.
Most of us guys are not good looking enough to have a good chance of finding an attractive fuck-buddy. Marriage isn't as easy an option for men now, because that old world, where it was easier for the man to be bread winner, and women were forced to be obedient and dependent, is gone.
I'm not sure what century you were born in, but the balance of power in marriages has tilted towards women easily since the early 80s. By that point no-fault divorces were the law of the land pretty much everywhere and women were gaining a lot of traction in the workforce, yet men were still coming out largely on the losing side of custody and alimony disputes.
At least the one thing we still had working in our favor was a cultural inclination towards intact families, but that has largely eroded as well, especially among our uneducated welfare class. It hasn't helped that since the 90s we have made it so easy to get on the government tit for Section 8 housing, welfare, disability, free healthcare and food benefits (SNAP, WIC), which is a big reason why these uneducated single mothers feel perfectly fine with raising kids in broken homes.
Anyway, with all of that said, there are still plenty of people making marriage work. It just takes a little more work to find a partner who shares your values and vision of the future.
Hard to really know what people are doing of course.
Concern about AIDS?
People generally becoming more upwards mobility oriented from the 1980's, Yuppies?
All the relationship advice manuals, promoting neuroticism.
The rise of the Born Again Movement and the Recovery Movement.
Economic fears just pressing people to live more cautiously and more privately.
More people focused on private wealth accumulation and not wanting relationships.
Does the study offer any interpretation?
SJG
White Room, School of Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh4COKp_…
—>Finances were the main reason to live with family for 40% of survey respondents, followed by caregiving commitments to older relatives. Over half of younger people with lower incomes cited finances as the biggest factor in their decision.
https://fortune.com/2022/03/25/more-adul…
Financial stress is a downer on having enough idle time to look for that kind of thing. Same with lots of people living with their parents, and it can be awkward trying to do activities like sex when living in the same house.
Also, mental health issues are a downer and gets in the way of motivation there. It seems like the youth suicide rate might be finally starting to stagnate instead of ever climbing like it had been since 2007. But there is still a difference between being “well” and “not offing yourself”
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databr…
Mental Health issues are phantom, and they are simply a product of the above.
SJG
But then I tell them to put on a pair of socks, and find some pants that aren’t so tight, and stop complaining about your over entitled life, and how you can’t afford to buy a home because of your BMW lease, and how you want to work from home.
Club environments that have a decent chunk of customers were born from the 1990s on are SO much easier to deal with and definitely improve the club clientele overall. 😎 And it’s absolutely attitude related. Though it is pretty funny when the old white guy gets mad that I’m paying attention to the group of young guys over him. And he acts like it’s because I’m so shallow, but I mean c’mon the group gave me maybe $40+ for my stage set and you gave me $2 sir. AND they are less likely to want to do the sit and talk thing before dances.
Awkwardly though, looking back at who I’ve actually dated in the past, most were several years older than me though. Idk why, I don’t think I selected for that on purpose?
They say you can spot them because they are outlandishly dressed.
And in a strip club it will be a lot more than just 10%.
I agree with what Nicespice starts with, the multigenerational homes, and especially young people being priced out of housing, even college graduates.
SJG
I don't think this is generally true.
I think though for economic reasons, many young women have back burnered the idea of real relationships.
SJG
Do you patronize AMPs, as HJ is their specialty.
SJG
1. big software company that hires lots of weird little geniuses that are good at math and puzzles. These little turds are busy working late and playing video games. They are not getting laid.
2. local music scene, with all the freaks and weirdos that play/appreciate/both local music. These kids seem to be shagging each other rotten. It's also complicated sex: everybody's bi, trans, or non binary, or what ever other non standard shit that has them fucking any/everything. They are definitely getting laid.
I also observe that there are plenty of poly people out here that fuck in the context of way over complicated relationship structures. Plus the swingers and sex club freaks. This is probably more your 25-35 crowd, though.
I do hear from my buddies with high school and college aged kids that they are not drinking and fucking like we used to... so maybe that's the new prude generation. Or else my sample size is small, or the kids are just lying to their parents about it like we lied to ours in the 80s.
DrunkP, good, you don't want to learn to prematurely ejaculate.
SJG
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SJG
@nice the pattern I see is that the guys stage tip a lot of singles buy few if any lap dances. But makes sense to swing by their table to make sure they know they're appreciated. If the club allows it, some spontaneous, grindy table dancing may get more singles flowing. I don't get torqued if a dancer decides to roll up on a different PL before me, even if she's my fav. I hope you'll still give us old guys a chance when you're not otherwise busy. I'm not pushy or gumpy, and I don't feel I'm entitled to any chat time along with the time I pay for.