How are strip clubs going to be changed by Covid?

So you are hoping for an Economic Depression so your mongering costs get lower ? What a selfish, self centered jack-ass.

To answer your question, I don't think they will change much once this thing is completely gone. Some will have been closed permanently because of the closures by certain local governments. But the ones left will be pretty much the same. And new entrepreneurs will open new clubs. Some dancers will have given up, but new ones will replace them.

I think clubs will be worse. I don't think Covid is a hoax. I'm not a science denier. I have cut back my stripper interactions from weekly to almost nothing because I don't want to contract this disease. I'm sure many other customers and dancers feel the same way. Even after the vaccine is available, many people will hesitate about close contact with strangers. Fewer customers will result in fewer dancers and in clubs closing.

At the same time local governments will use Covid as an excuse to tighten regulations and drive clubs out of business. The Christian conservatives will join with the liberal do-gooders to limit or end the fun others are having.

Aye Jack I agree 100%

I don’t think they will be any different. Exhibit A in support of my opinion: clubs in Georgia. They have been open since the first of June. For the first couple of months, there were capacity restrictions and strict mask requirements. Right now, and for the last several months, they are pretty much the way they have always been.

I think around 20% or more will have closed for good by the time the pandemic is through. Dancers that are 8-10's have been able to make money through OnlyFans and canning, so they will likely keep on this path. We will be stuck settling for 7's

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Ordinarily I would comment, but as an all or nothing personality type who hasn't gone since prior to Thanksgiving I am beginning to think its easier to just be done and move on to another hobby. Since the pandemic started I have strip clubbed at 12 different clubs in 6 states and it just wasn't fun any longer. 10 visits were no mask, face to face contact so it isn't fear of the virus and yes it .is serious (sister just out of hospital after 9 days and brother-in-law still there after 14 and no idea if he makes it), its just that the overall mood is a buzz kill

My guess is by mid-year things will be back to normal. If there is money to be made the supply/demand will be there. I have not gone to a club since January despite the fact that they were only closed a short time in my state knowing the experience would be compromised and I would be risking my health. Once we're all vaccinated; status quo.

With democrats in office now its possible.

===> "How are strip clubs going to be changed by Covid?"

They won't, at least not in the long term. In the short-term, the mix of girls is a bit different. I am seeing a lot more Day Job Girls right now as many of those who were stripping full time were forced to find vanilla work to pay the bills when the clubs were closed. Also it is still tougher to make bank during weekdays. But once comfort returns to the more skittish element of the population and they return to spend on those early to mid-week shifts I think the mix of girls will eventually re-align.

SCs have been on the decline. Covid sped it up. Don't see it completely dying, but do see more girls shifting towards OF/social media platforms and SB/SD sites. Thing is, OF/IG/SM and the like girls have to put in initial effort to get a following, strippers make money day one. I see either 2 things happening, SC being even more transient w/regards to strippers d/t more options and/or strippers being stigmatized to a lower rank on the sex work totem pole d/t perceived low effort needed to be one. Both not a good sign. Caveat is, being a stripper with a large social media platform I see doing very well.

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I’m not an optimist about the long term future of clubs, but they’ve been a lot more resilient than I expected. When clubs were open between the first and second wave of shutdowns I met quite a few college age girls new to stripping. Not every girl wants to post nudes online, even the 8-10s.

I'm afraid many of the independently owned clubs will close, never to reopen. I think there was a study that 20% of small restaurants had closed permanently, and another 20% were likely to fail. I don't want to live in a where everything is a starbucks, McDonald's, TGIFridays, or Scarletts.

Eventually, some new clubs will spring up in markets where there is room. However, no one of a sane mind is going to start a new business or new job with so much uncertainty. We could be looking at 10 years or more before we see the economic strength and opportunity we've had for thenpast 4 years. If the dems win the Senate, then we may never see it in our lifetimes.

I have no idea. Since I am now working 95 % at home and have no desire to go back out to work, I have very little incentive to go strip clubbing. I can walk to a bar and see beautiful women and interact for very little time and money. If I need a FS fix, then I have numerous AMPs that are close by. No work travel means no more boring nights in a hotel. Thus, very little, if any, strip clubbing for my near future.

I think the biggest long term change will be a reduced number of clubs. Many have already shut down because they weren't financially healthy before 2020 and the closures/curfews were beyond what they could bear.

The big unknown is how travel recovers because that is a major factor in how clubs perform. Whether it is business travel or just personal travel, a lot of men are more likely to club when they are out of town than they are at home. Personally, 95% of my clubbing is done when I travel and probably 75% is during business travel. Now that my company has realized how well telecommuting works I don't think I will ever travel even half as much for business.

This is going to become a very expensive hobby. The clubs that do make it are going to operate like the top vegas. Thats what i expect will happen

Short term (next 12-18 months) only the strong will survive. Long term COVID will eventually dwindle to the point of being a seasonal flu issue. Laws of supply and demand will kick in and allow pathetic losers to unite again. Stay thirsty, my friends!

Post-pandemic, what will have really changed? Nothing, at least in the long term.

Economic cycles, no matter how painful during the downturns, are just that; cyclic. The epidemic will end, and the economy will grow as the cycle continues. There will be damage to individual workers and businesses, to be sure. But as long as local, state and federal laws & regulations do not change beyond temporary safety-related issues, the strip club business will rebound in time. There may be a large percentage of new strippers, staff, clubs, and owners. And there may be some tweaks in business models. But the demand for this service will drive new supply as soon as local conditions allow it to be done safely.

And just like the legal (and not so legal) brothels mentioned in another post, market forces will drive the process. As long as there is demand, there will be providers to meet that need.

===> But the demand for this service will drive new supply as soon as local conditions allow it to be done safely...And just like the legal (and not so legal) brothels mentioned in another post, market forces will drive the process. As long as there is demand, there will be providers to meet that need."

This 100%. Sex sells. Always has, always will. Until someone comes up with equally enjoyable alternatives to hands-on interactions with strippers and transactional sex with prostitutes (and sometimes a package combination of the two), there will be demand. Online porn and cam are not substitutes for either and never have been.

Now if this board and what I've seen locally are any indication, I do believe that SA may be cutting into club revenues a bit by diverting some of the in-person adult spending. But I still don't see this as a a complete alternative to the in-demand convenience and variety of girls and experiences offered by clubs.

Clubs in certain areas are dying off due to a combination of demographic changes, including aging populations and affluent people moving to other parts of the country, and stricter laws/ordinances designed to drive clubs away. But in places with the right combination of less onerous regulation and positive population migration I believe that clubs will thrive for a long time to come. TX and FL are definitely two states that come to mind. In my local area, we had more new clubs open than those that closed in the past three years, at least pre-COVID.

I think whenever strip clubs are back to normal restaurants will be too and there will be tons of pent up demand. There will be people going out 5 nights a week when they can. I think this will bring back waitress and bartender jobs.

In some cities covid has or will kill clubs permanently.

On the flip side cities are going to have stretched budgets and vice seems to get deprioritized when that happens.

====> "I do believe that SA may be cutting into club revenues a bit by diverting some of the in-person adult spending." <====

Rick, surprisingly (or perhaps not?), I see very few (former) strippers listing on SA in my area (Valley). Or at least I don't see any more than I did pre-COVID. So while it's plausible the customer spend is being diverted, the strippers are generally not receiving that diverted spend through SA. I do have anecdotal stories of displaced strippers going into other alternative businesses, like legal weed/CBD sales or webcamming. And I know several who have upped their OTC games by lowering their prices and/or increasing their "level of service." Ok, some of those "anecdotes" actually took place in my bedroom... but that's a story for another post.

But the premise remains; demand will be satisfied in the long run, one way or another.

Random reminder that YMMV by region and by club. Clubs around my area would be mostly back to normal if the city and county would stop changing their minds like a girl changes clothes.

I am worried that the 18, 19, 20 year old would be strippers of today probably chose a different route now.

And btw I'm not sure some clubs closing is a bad thing, many are over due IMHO.

When I started going to clubs about ten years ago there were around eighteen clubs in my city, Indianapolis, and one of the main appeals of the hobby was the variety available. The numbers of clubs dropped over the years and with four closing just this year due to Covid we are down to around half as many.

We haven't had a new club open in this city for 25 years so I don't foresee any new ones. The legal climate is less friendly now as far as opening a new club with zoning changes and getting the necessary licenses now more difficult. Strip clubs are kind of a throwback to an earlier era and both the religious fundamentalist right and feminist left see them as exploitative of women.

Covid has changed the club going habits of many older customers and in many cases they will never go back to the same frequency of visits as before. Beside Covid, there has also been big increases in crime the last year and with the "defund the police" movement this will continue. At least some suburban customers will be more hesitant to go into crime filled big cities to visit a strip club.

The economy may not recover quickly. The Fed printed up 220 billion dollars last month to buy treasury bonds and all the money printing is causing the value of the dollar to drop. Inflation will start causing price increases which will leave less disposal income for many people. Artificially induced low interest rates by the Fed caused a shale oil bubble but this is popping and oil prices are headed up. Many small businesses will not open again and the reduction in tax revenues will cause state and city governments to raise tax rates to make up for loss of revenue. With higher prices and higher taxes, many customers will have to decrease their strip club spending and this will hurt the clubs.

I'm guessing during peak urban blight and white flight it was relatively easy to open new clubs in urban areas. Then cities became cool to live in again, got gentrified, and now it's likely much harder to open a club. Opening a club in an exurb probably is rough

Fewer clubs. Those that survive will be in select locations that don’t threaten activists. City of Industry. East St. Louis. Tijuana. Generally, the industrialized parts of town.

CoVid will have no affect on strip clubs, post vaccine.

Here’s what I don’t get. There is a clear trend to legalizing drugs at the same time that government is criminalizing sex. If society goes easy one victimless “crime” shouldn’t it go easy on all victimless activities ?

Mark94 says:

"Here’s what I don’t get. There is a clear trend to legalizing drugs at the same time that government is criminalizing sex."

I've had online conversations with a feminist female who opposes legalized prostitution. What she wants is a large welfare state, even to the point of having a UBI given to everyone automatically so they don't have to work. The goal here is to give women unrestricted sexual freedom to have sex with whoever they want. This means the good looking loser bad boy type. These types can't provide any financial support but with UBI in place women don't have to take that into consideration. The money for the UBI will be taken in taxes from the financially well off males. Why have legalized prostitution where women have to have sex in exchange for money when they can have the government just take the money from males and turn it over to them? We are not just talking about prostitution. Why marry some boring average guy just because he is a good provider when you can have the government step in and help pay the bills?

Your feminist friend won't admit it but a lot of women enjoy sex, even if it's from gat ugly guys. The feminist won't ruin sexual encounters for everyone. Just those that think of it as a chore rather than a mutual pleasure thing.

"I've had online conversations with a feminist female"

On purpose? Gross.

I think greed is killing strip clubs more than covid19.

Some of ghe ones I know open illegally charge men $100 covers. $600 to $1500 tables. Dancers paying $300 house fees.

Fuck them.

Icee if people are paying those levels then apparently demand is there.

Prohibition has a way of raising the prices on goods and services.

Its a novelty draw not a sustainable demand.

"The same prices as the 1990s" um inflation has changed the value of the American dollar significantly the last 30 years. I doubt the prices will go down. Stop being so cheap 😅