Hello Everyone. I just turned 21 a week ago and was brought by my friends to a local SC and it was a blast. I wanted to go back without them for one of the girls but it just seems weird. Is it normal to go alone and is there any tips for someone who goes by themselves? Thanks in advance
I think you'll find that most of the customers come in by themselves. They are there to make hay with the girls. Just watch your money and other possessions. And don't fall in love.
Most guys on this board go alone. It's an expensive and addicting hobby. Watch out for scams. Some dancers will give you a sob story and ask you to help them out because an emergency (bills, car repairs, mother needing an operation). Strippers know a fool and his money are soon parted.
I was introduced to strip clubs by a friend when I was in my late 30s. I always went alone after that.
The posts above are spot-on -- but I think it's a very bad idea for a young person to be going to clubs. You should be saving your money and vanilla-dating girls your own age.
You say that you want to go alone for one of the girls. You are about to fall for a stripper. You are about to make a mistake. She cares ONLY about your money. So, if you are deciding to go alone (which most on this discussion board do), then go in with a plan. Take only the amount of money you wish to spend. DO NOT take your credit card nor your debit card into the strip club; leave them at HOME where you have no access to them. You are new to this and you will absolutely spend to much if you take those with you. These girls are masters at making you fall for them. That is what they do. That is how they make money. Just go and have fun, but leave the fun at the door when the night is over. In other words FORGET about the individual girl the moment you walk out to go home. The next trip in, find another girl to have fun with and then forget about her as you walk out that door. And on and on.
^ At 21, if he even has a credit card at all, it won't have much room on it for him to go hog wild.
But Random was right, it is weird to go alone at 21. He should be enjoying civvie dating and cool bars with his buddies, not hanging out by himself surrounded by old men carrying Viagra and dreams of yesteryear.
Besides, he probably can't afford to do much anyway, so he'll get much more bang for the buck spending his limited cash on other entertainment.
I work at amazon 50 hours a week. I have a lot of spending money. When I said going back for one girl I meant she was the hottest one there so when I go back and hang out I want to get dances from her if she is there
Probably wasted advice but IMO Stripclub @ 21 should be a social thing. Get a normal relationship and don't develop an unhealthy one in the club (that involves $). You will fall in love at your age and 99% its not gonna end well.
If you are somehow very mature for your age and got a bunch of daddy's money to spend then treat it as an occasional treat.
If you really have the money you should go and tell her:
“Hi, I am a busy professional concentrated in my career, so I am interviewing girls to find me a Sugar Baby that will be willing to meet once a week to make love and have fun.
Do you know someone that is nice, smart, beautiful, discreet, safe, that would be interested to be interviewed?”
Her response will let you know if you have a chance or not.
If she says “I am nice, smart and beautiful, and would be interested”
Than make an appointment to meet outside the club to have dinner and workout the details: Monthly allowance, days you would meet and for how long, sexual preferences, etc.
Make sure she understands that you value punctuality and reliability and communication above all and you have a three strikes and you are out policy.
48-Cowboy here... Possibly the youngest PL TUSCL has ever seen. I joined when I was 19 and am now 22.
I'm a massive fucking weeb who loves cute girls and ecchi. I think kawaii anime girls should be up there with the computer as the two greatest inventions of mankind. The type of girl I find most attractive is a girl who's sweet, cute, and shy but also has a very perverted and horny mind.
Forget going to the clubs alone. That os way too scary because there is human females there. Get a cute waifu doll. They are programmed to say yes to anything.
In case this is not a troll, he's an adult free to do what he wants and spend as he sees fit. I would caution to not get too fucked up at the club. Every club I have ever worked at whether "upscale" or straight up shit hole the girls do steal and guys mysteriously seem to find their wallets with all their money missing... this seems to happen most with younger more naive guys. I hate that shit... but I have never worked at any club with zero theft problems.
Account created just this month (probably today). Only activity so far has been this thread created. Discussion topic is about a subject matter that has proven to reliably rile individuals up. (Topic of a young guy going to clubs). To each their own, but it has classic troll patterns. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I’m sorry if you guys think I’m a troll. I started lurking yesterday/the day before that. I turned 21 March 1st so I’m fairly young. Sorry if it seems I’m a troll
I’ve basically been going back for one (a hundred different ones though) for the past 40 years. I started at 18 because back then it was the legal age. I don’t recommend it but I understand. I got a real thrill reconnecting with that hot piece of ass I’d been thinking about all week.
"But Random was right, it is weird to go alone at 21."
Happy 21st Birthday. TUSCL is not a place to tell you what's acceptable or not. When I was 21, I was still in college and strip clubs were something a lot of us did socially in our circle of friends to talk shit and spend a little. For those of us who stayed around town and didn't get/stay married, we kept clubbing together off and on for years. If the issue you're having is you're worried about what your friends will think, I'll break out the cliché that "real" friends are going to be ok with who you are.
If you do end up clubbing a lot with other dudes, just talk through some bro rules so things don't get awkward. If you think a girl is hot chances are your friends do, too, and the Law of Sloppy Seconds applies. Unless your crew shares everything, then it doesn't. See? If you want to go back alone, go back alone. All the other stuff the guys here said about watching your finances, feelings, etc are good things to keep in mind.
And have fun. Having fun is the thing I forget to do sometimes because of club drama some girls attract, which goes against the point of the hobby.
If this is a troll at least he didn't come in hot and disrespectful like hornyasianbro did comparing the word 'chino' to the words wetback and nigger.
The funny statement here is he has a lot of money working at Amazon 50 hours a week. With his age and those hours I'm imagining he is a DSP driver for a firm contracted by Amazon. Those guys do not make a lot of money. It's ok, but not a lot. However if he still lives with mom and dad and has nothing but a cell phone payment to make every month then he might feel as though he's Scrooge McDuck right now.
I agree with what most of the posters above warned of. These girls are masters of making you think they feel a certain way for you, but it's an act designed to separate you from your money as quickly as possible. Just don't go expecting to make this dancer your girlfriend. Or hell who knows, maybe you can. I'm sure Icey Loco will be in here to give you some advice on how to do that. But I'd advise you to need all the warning you got from the folks above, especially Nidan.
The op is too trollish. If he was at the club he saw that most patrons were there by themselves. If he is that self conscious its not the place for him
Love the comments and advice here. I was similar I I think, my friends brought me to a strip club in my late 20s and loved it so much I had no issue going back by myself. I understand he’s young and he should be social, which I do suggest, I’m in my mid 30s and regret my lack of social action in my 20s. With that said, I think as long as if you’re habit doesn’t get destructive go see that girl you like. Sometimes guys don’t want to do the social thing, when you go to a strip club the girls are already talking to you making you feel comfortable and maybe she fits a fantasy of some kind you just have to fulfill. My only thing here that I would stress is and someone had mentioned it, OP you may go and see this girl for whatever reason, you get dances from her, a VIP, but really you want close the deal and fuck, you might not just be there yet so if that’s what you want to do just ask, they’ve heard it all before
Going alone to a strip-club is not an issue - it's not like going alone to a nigthclub for example - when one is young one is used to doing things w/ their buddies - also when one is young they tend to care more about what others think (e.g. "oh people are gonna think I'm a loser for being there alone", etc).
If one's main objective at the SC is to socialize and party, then yeah being w/ other people is better for that - but if one is there to mainly get w/ the girls, then having buddies there is not necessary and can at times actually be a hindrance for various reasons - in the end, guys going alone to strip-clubs is not uncommon at all especially if you are there mainly for the girls - it's kinda like going on a date; you can do a group-date thing, or go solo if you just want to focus on her.
w.r.t. this "oh if you're young you should be getting pussy and not be in strip-clubs" - that's overblown and over-exaggerated - being young is no guarantee of getting pussy for various reasons - it's not like as if you are young, girls are gonna be giving it to you like free-bread - plenty of guys in their 20s are not getting any, or not getting the quality or quantity they would like - sure, if one can hook up consistently w/ young hot chicks then no point perhaps in spending hundreds in the club - but I think there are as many, if not more, young guys not getting the sexual-satisfaction they want for various reasons from not having game, being late-bloomers, not being that great-looking, shy, etc - plenty of young-guys are hard-up and not getting what they want, when they want it, from who they want, sexual-wise.
So this "don't go to clubs if you're young", I don't necessarily think is the best advice - sure better to "get it for free" from a girl that wants to be w/ you, but this is not always the case for young guys and being constantly hard-up is IMO worse than clubbing if clubbing is their only outlet for w/e reason - again plenty of young guys are not getting the sexual satisfaction they crave for various reasons, or getting w/ the types of girls they would like/want to get with.
@TFP I actually work in one of the warehouses. Mainly with PIT equipment like forklifts and stuff. I make 16.50 an hour and yeah I split rent with my family and my car is paid off so I just have rent, car insurance and a phone bill.
I will become more involved here as well to prove I’m not a troll. I went with 5 other people last Thursday and I drank heavily so I wasn’t paying attention to the other people in the club @IceyLoco
Since you're asking, I'll add my 2 cents:
At 21, you shouldn't be going to strip clubs, other than the occasional night out with your buddies. You should be going to places where you can meet "civvies."
An inexperienced monger in a strip club could lead to trouble, in the form of separating you from what little money you probably have, as others have detailed the stripper scams.
Don't do the solo strip club thing until you're old, lonely, bitter and broken up after a long marriage or relationship, like me.
For this hobby, it also helps to be a financially secure position that you generally don't attain until later in life.
Strip-clubbing is fun, and it's great to pretty-much have instant access to hot women - but as others have mentioned one has to be careful.
Inexperienced SCers are often taken advantaged of - many of these girls have a huge advantage on the avg guy that rarely SCs since these girls are in the club night-in and night-out for months and years on end thus know the game way better than the avg guy walking into a club - some rules of thumb many SCers agree on:
+ don't fall in-love with a stripper - it's their job to make you feel like they are way into you - that is how they make $$$ and making $$$ is the reason they are there; they are not there to hook-up nor find "Mr Right" - most of them already have BFs or guys they date outside the club - strippers rarely look at guys in the club as dating material, guys in the club are there to be fleeced and are basically looked at as walking-ATMs - at the end of the day, if you don't get w/ girls like that IRL then don't expect the girl in the club to be any different - in the SC it's business for the girls
+ avoid using a credit-card in the club - some clubs, or certain staff, will add bogus charges to a custy's cc, sometimes in the thousands - giving them your CC is giving them access to charge w/e they want - not saying using a CC always causes issues, but def happens
+ don't fall for tales of woe, this is a common scam to extract $$$ from custies - and don't try to be a white-knight and try to "save a stripper" from the lifestyle - it's a fool's errand
+ avoid paying dancers upfront on promises they will do 'X' - more often than not the girls that insist on upfront payment do so to rip you off
You should get TUSCL VIP and read reviews for clubs in your area so you know the M.O. in those clubs and know how to better navigate them and how to avoid over-paying, etc.
You get VIP by paying for it, or writing a good-review of a club visit that gets approved.
Well it seems you have a little money to play around with since you don't have that many bills and work a good amount of OT. Still I'd say be careful. Going to strip clubs is an addicting hobby and one that can blow through your discretionary money quickly if you don't watch out.
No problem with indulging every once in awhile but be careful to not use up all your money messing with these dancers.
Thanks everyone. I’m not going to be going every week lol. Is 1 time a month or so still a lot or is that more reasonable? I still am gonna go out and do stuff in the normal world
===> "I make 16.50 an hour and yeah I split rent with my family and my car is paid off so I just have rent, car insurance and a phone bill."
Then you definitely can't afford strippers. There are old dudes on this site spending as much on strippers in a single night as you take home in a week. Consider saving up for your own place so you can get laid by girls your own age instead of living with your Mom and only seeing them naked in a strip club.
I mean I co-own the house I live in with my grandfather. He stays like 1-2 days a week so it’s not like I live in my moms basement. I may not be old but I am financially independent for the most part
Yeah - what you're making is good $$$ if one is 21 and doesn't have responsibilities like paying a mortgage and providing for a family, and one lives is a decent COL area - w/o overtime, $16.50/hr translates to about $34k/yr if my math is right - decent $$$ for a 21 y/o w/ minor responsibilities, but that would not cut it once you start taking-on other adult responsibilities later in life and def not enough to be able to club well especially once you start getting more and bigger bills later in life - not meant as a put-down, more of a heads-up that that kinda $$$ may be enough for your present situation but it's not enough for the avg adult.
He’s not asking for financial advice he’s asking about going clubbing alone or with friends and even though I believe you are a troll I go by myself more often but I have some buddies that I go with as well I enjoy both at your age there’s no reason to become a loner, life is enriched by having lots of experiences and having friends to share your interests with is great.
I appreciate it @Papi_Chulo. I think I made 41k last year with the extra OT during Nov-Dec time. I know it’s not big money like older people but I don’t see why going once a month and spending a couple hundred is bad
@Twentyfive the conversation kinda shifted over to finances a little while into the thread, amongst other things. The OP didn't seem to mind discussing it, and IMO it's a very important part of clubbing for someone just getting into it.
Going to a strip club solo is fine. One good piece of advice, bring whatever money (cash only and PLEASE leave your credit cards at home if you have any) you plan to spend with you and NEVER use ATMs at clubs.
I agree with what everyone's said here (including the financial advice). It's not weird to go to a strip club alone, and as others have said, it's probably preferable to go by yourself. Most of the time that I've been to a club, many guys are there by themselves, especially if you go during the day or early night shift - say before 8 or 9 p.m. Later on, you might see two buddies who go together, and then late at night, that's when you might see larger groups of guys, especially birthday or bachelor party groups. I tend to prefer to go by myself, or maybe with just one buddy who I can trust. But most of the time, I prefer the freedom of doing what I want, when I want, that comes with going to a strip club by myself. Think with the big head, not the little head. And only bring what cash you can afford to spend. This is an expensive hobby. $100 doesn't go very far. IMO, it's better to go less often and have a bigger wad to blow so you more to spend, and have a proportionately better time (usually). While mo' money doesn't necessarily equal to a better time, having mo' money to spend at a club is better as it increases the likelihood that you will. After all, the strippers probably aren't attracted to your youthful good looks. They're more attracted to the bulge in your pants, and not the one in front, but in back.
Thanks for the good advice everyone. I used to go to the local poker room with buddies every 2-3 weeks or so but I’m bad and I always lose a hundred bucks or so a time. I figured instead of always losing money I can use that elsewhere. How much do you think you typically need to enjoy a SC? When we went I was listening to bad advice and burned through my 260 quick.
Hmm 🤔 okay @ OP the more you’re posting, the more authentic of a vibe I get from you. I apologize for calling you a troll.
Young guys in the club aren’t that unusual imo. And I don’t get the shaming. I’ve danced for some guys before who young and physically attractive for several dances in a row before. Not every shift, but enough for it to not be something absolutely weird as some might imply.
As far as how much is typically needed to enjoy a SC, that’s for you to discover. What are dance prices in your area? How much of a thing is stage tipping at your club? Do you care more about getting lap dances or the bantering before that? (If you want to banter, then probably preemptively offer a drink when a dancer sits down, and factor that into how much you’re willing to spend).
@Papi_Chulo @Nice the private dances are 40 dollars. That’s the only price I know off the top of my head since that’s all I got my first time. I sat in front of the stage last time and I tipped heavily since I didn’t know what to do really. I can ask a friend who used to work there the other prices
Losing hundreds are poker? At least now you'll be able to have something to show for blowing your hundred or so bucks. Maybe you'll even crusty pants to hide. Everybody starts somewhere.
A simple bit of advice, and I know you are getting lots of it right now, is to let it go.
Don’t go back to the same club to get dances from the dancer you found to be unforgettable the other night. If you return, and she remembers you (or you remind her about the other night), she will know you want her, and she knows how to lead you along, and empty your wallet.
If you want to become a filthy young clubbing pervert, read the articles and discussions here. But remember, this is an expensive hobby, and it’s more fun when you don’t need to worry about wasting lots of money.
Yeah, that's it. If clubs are fun for you then keep it fun. What a bunch of dudes are saying here is that there's other stuff that comes along with spending more time in clubs than just the casual visit. How much you should spend is what you can afford. Preferably comfortably. If what you can spend doesn't get you the experience you are looking for, take a break and try again later. Later could be when you have more money to spend or you work something out to get what you're looking for from someone who'll take less to give you that experience.
===> "I mean I co-own the house I live in with my grandfather. "
This story changes faster than a newborn's diapers. First he's a renter with a few nominal bills (rent, car insurance, phone) and now he co-owns a house that he stays in alone most of the time. I'm sure if I ask him who is paying the rest of the mortgage and all of the utilities (water, electric, sewage), groceries, home owner's insurance, property taxes, maintenance and repairs, etc.,etc., he'll create something for that too. "Cause there's no way a 21 year old kid on a $16/hr job is doing all that.
It's so weird when these little scenarios are posted. It's like the person behind these troll accounts has no concept of the real world or human interactions. He/she can manage to piece together a weirdly hollow rendition of an intro story, but all too often it falls apart quickly. Then of course the "I am a unicorn" tapdance starts, with ever shifting conditions.
I often play along for lack of anything else to comment on, but when you do a bad job of portraying a real person, take your lumps instead of creating this silly nonsense.
If the guy wants to be a customer, let him be a customer. There are a lot of younger guys who are customers at clubs. At the people above- I don't think that necessarily somebody younger going to clubs repeatedly = a bad thing. I've seen all kinds of guys in the clubs. Every age/color/ income/ attractiveness/any other characteristic you can think of.
@FLOrange I'd say there is nothing weird about someone going to clubs alone as a customer. Those are my favorite customers to approach generally- or smaller groups. Though I can approach anyone and larger groups, I'm just saying some are higher on the order of priorities LOL.
===> "He’s not asking for financial advice he’s asking about going clubbing alone or with friends"
But his age and financial circumstances matter whether he is asking about them or not. A young guy usually doesn't have the resources to blow large sums on strippers, nor is it a healthy pursuit for a guy who hasn't done shit in this life yet with civvie women. When they do go, they are almost always in groups and it is a party atmosphere as opposed to a dancer fixation issue. It's all inter-related IMHO.
@rickdugan actually in some parts of the US a 16.50/hour job with some overtime like he says is enough to buy a house and maintain it + bills. I would say most of America you sure as fuck either can't do that or barely can (but then overextend yourself financially).. There are some places that houses are so cheap at first I was like "is this a scam??" I'm originally from out west so some of these middle america and deep south housing prices blow my mind away sometimes.
I knew some extreme examples back out in the general Portland area of guys who worked the same manufacturing/warehousing job as me years ago. We were only making like in the range of $15-$20 an hour base pay, but overtime was extremely available and often forced. Anyway I knew a few guys who did buy a house there like 5 years ago making that little money. How they did it I don't know? But it is possible. One of those guys apparently went back to jail though, bummer. Another one of them I know for sure gets a LOT of help from his family. FUck him! My family won't do 1/4 of that for me. Spoiled lil fucker.
===> "@rickdugan actually in some parts of the US a 16.50/hour job with some overtime like he says is enough to buy a house and maintain it + bills. "
On $600/week take home (if he's lucky) it would be a challenge almost anywhere. Even if his "rent" was $500 per month, he'd also have minimum expenses for car insurance ($100/mo), utilities ($200/mo); phone ($50/mo); groceries ($250/mo), gas ($200/mo); home Internet ($50/mo); misc. expenses ($250/mo) - we are already at $1,600 per month assuming a bare bone budget. That only leaves him $800 per month for any emergency items and everything else that comes up on the need and want front.
And I was generous re: his low expenses and controlled spending. All said and done there ain't much stripper money in that budget.
^Oh for sure Rick- the guys I knew who managed it back west were struggling and I know for a fact at least 1 of them his family has been very generous helping him like wow.
I am assuming this kid if he's a real person is not going to go to the club every month blowing hundreds. But here and there??? shit why not! you all are acting like he's a drug addict or something.
ALso I don't know where the fuck he works. But my job the pay went up every year and there were raises here and there as you did more time or developed more skills. Not all of these manufacturing/warehouse jobs are dead end. But I was in the paper business idk about other manufacturing too much.
blah, what he might make in the future doesn't matter. He has to deal with today. If he starts dropping money that he can't afford chasing after strippers who won't appreciate him anyway, he won't have any left over for civvie dating, unexpected car repairs or co-pays for medical visits, etc., etc.
I remember one young guy who I saw do this. The stripper used to nickname him "Home Depot Guy." We laughed about him ITC on a few different occasions before I took her OTC for a fuck and suck. He used to hang out and follow her like a puppy. He got so infatuated that he started spending money he didn't have, until he eventually busted out and had to take on a second job to pay off the credit cards he ran up.
It is just not financially or emotionally healthy for young guys to visit clubs alone to visit strippers.
you make some fair points rick, but you come across like an asshole about it. i'm starting to see why you have so many people on here who dislike you.
also, the money he makes is more than enough to hit a club. you don't need 500 dollars in your pocket to have a good time at a club. its possible to get addicted, but its not guarantee. and just because he's going to clubs at a young age....doesn't mean he's not picking up any chicks.
My only problem with Rick right now and some of these other posters is they are acting this kid is on the dangerous path of meth or gambling addiction. There are plenty of guys who spend money at clubs now and then, but don't make it a regular habit or a financially crippling one.
@Govikings the funny part is you should read some of Dugan's posts over on Stripperweb. You wanna talk about Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde? Man I'll never forget when I used to browse Stripperweb before I found this place. I thought, man this Rick Dugan guy is pretty nice and helpful. Then when I found this place I noticed Rick Dugan was also over here. But man the tone of his posts was dramatically different. Like you said, he was a snarky asshole in almost every post here. I almost thought it was two different guys using the same screen name. But nope, same person. Too bad. If Rick posted in the same manner here as he did over on Stripperweb we probably would have had at least 90% less anti Rick posts.
papi chulo’s first comment in this thread described me in my twenties.
late bloomer. then rushed into marriage.
FLOrange. just enjoy the ladies.
don’t get carried away.
enjoy life.
@GV & TFP: Cry me a river already. The reason for my different tones on SW vs. here are simple: I have a lot more sympathy for young girls who take their clothes off for a living than I do for grown men who behave like trolls on strip club websites.
@Rick you're a trip. Like I said, on Stripperweb even when you're addressing other obviously male posters in the customer section, you're a lot more respectful and helpful. It shows you have the capability of posting like that every time if you wanted. But no on here it's like you go out of your way to be a jerk every time you reply to someone. Not trolls, but regular ass posters just trying to converse.
Hey it is what it is, you're a jerk here and a cool guy there, fine. Own that shit.
@FLOrange "How much do you think you typically need to enjoy a SC? When we went I was listening to bad advice and burned through my 260 quick." and "the private dances are 40 dollars."
Dude, find a different club. $40/dance is pretty expensive. Find a place that's more like $20 or $25 a dance. If you're stuck on a girl at the $40 club, go somewhere else and you'll probably be able to find a replacement pretty easily.
As for how much to bring to enjoy a SC, there are threads that have discussed this, but it's going to be based a lot on what you can afford. Some guys go pretty often and just bring $100-200. Others go less often or have deeper pockets, and bring $300-500 or even more. To have a good time, I'd say bring about $300 and manage your time and money burn rate. $260 isn't a bad amount to bring and is a reasonable amount to have a good time. You just burned through it too quickly. If you had gone to a reasonably priced club where the dances are $25/song, you could have used $60 on cover/drinks/tips, and used the remaining $200 for dances. If you did 2 songs/girl, you could have sampled 4 girls. It's enough to have fun, but not enough to get too deep. Use the search tool on the TUSCL home page and read through past discussion threads for advice on how to level up on your SC game. These girls are sharks, so you need to know how to play the game so as not to get ripped off too badly. You WILL get ripped off at some point. We all have. It's part of the learning curve and the game.
No Rick the reason you act like an asshole here and not there is because they have a moderator and rules and they will throw your ass out, here your true self shines through.
Budget yourself. Only bring the amount of cash into the club that you’re ok with spending so you don’t get carried away. I always count and pocket the cash I’m willing to spend and leave the wallet, ATM, credit and debit cards locked in the trunk of the car. Only once did I go out and get the ATM card and used the club’s ATM for more cash. That was a special occasion when I found my total 1 in a million fantasy woman (a gorgeous blonde Playboy / fitness model who was also awesome in the champagne room) dancing daytime at a local club I happened to stop in for a beer.
@25: You're on a strip club website talking about spending money to diddle girls 1/3 your age. Nut up dude. Strong opinions are to be expected in a place like this.
@FLOrange: Don't be that young guy with limited funds hanging out in a club by himself. Go to the gym, spend the money on some civvie dates and get some overnight ass, explore some cool bars, etc. In other words do the things that young guys are supposed to do. Hanging out by yourself in a club, pissing away valuable cash that doesn't come easy, ain't one of those things.
@FLOrange: Or maybe even get some more technical training (welding, plumbing, electrical, truck driving, heavy machinery operator) in something so that you aren't a $16/hr warehouse worker forever. Invest in yourself, which you're definitely not doing at 21 if you're blowing good money on pointless strip club activities.
FLOrange: Just do you know, Ricky Douchebag Dugan is the last person you should be taking advice from on strip clubs or anything else. Click through to his original post to see how truly idiotic he is. https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6309…
Rickydugan said..."The reason for my different tones on SW vs. here are simple: I have a lot more sympathy for young girls who take their clothes off for a living than I do for grown men who behave like trolls on strip club websites."
Wow! This makes lots of sense! Ricky strokes managers and greases bouncers. He fucks dudes bareback so he doesnt get a girl pregnant. (Genious move being a faggot to hide fucking around from your wife, so no unexpected bambinos show up. ) He is an ass holebto young guys because he is jaded from his younger years of clubbing... he must have been Home Depot guy... which maynhsve causedbhim to swear off girls and go for dudes instead. He got married to hide his faggotry. He is nice on stripperweb because he is trying to improve his ways of trolling for dudes. His antics to pick up dudes on tuscl did not work over here so he is pissed and jaded and is an ass hole over here.
A few years ago I wrote this article on one’s first visit to a strip club. You may find it useful. It may also be useful to the veteran clubber when going to a strange club for the first time :
Welcome to the site, FLOrange. Quit lurking and wrote a review of the club you went to. New perspectives are welcome. Fresh eyes on our favorite clubs are a good thing.
===> "Wow! This makes lots of sense! Ricky strokes managers and greases bouncers. He fucks dudes bareback so he doesnt get a girl pregnant. (Genious move being a faggot to hide fucking around from your wife, so no unexpected bambinos show up. )"
Doctor wishes this was the case, which is why he keeps vying for my attention with bad satire when he's not getting blowjobs in the men's room at Babydolls (disgusting story btw). But NiceSpice knows better, which is why she also follows me around with her accounts - I'm convinced she wants me to treat her like the good little bad girl that she is. ;)
===> "Rick’s not wrong - it’s actually advise I’d give my sons or nephews in the real world."
Of course it is Stud. Only in this twisted place, full of weirdly effeminate and childless "male" posters mixed with oddly trollish "dancers" with ample time to troll, is it purportedly normal for a young guy with limited funds to visit a strip club alone to pursue a dancer his own age or older.
Wow! This makes lots of sense! Ricky strokes managers and greases bouncers. He fucks dudes bareback so he doesnt get a girl pregnant. (Genious move being a faggot to hide fucking around from your wife, so no unexpected bambinos show up. ) He is an ass hole to young guys because he is jaded from his younger years of clubbing... he must have been Home Depot guy... which may have caused him to swear off girls and go for dudes instead. He got married to hide his faggotry. He is nice on stripperweb because he is trying to improve his ways of trolling for dudes. His antics to pick up dudes on tuscl did not work over here so he is pissed and jaded and is an ass hole over here.
Stick to a budget don’t overspend. Decide on a strategy - lappers or otc girl (pay for play). This is a good thing to do when your young. It can help if you have a buddy mentor you in the hobby. Don’t get trapped or manipulated you have to spend more money than a sane budget.
===> "He is an ass hole to young guys because he is jaded from his younger years of clubbing.."
Huh? Nice, I'm one of the least jaded guys on here. I'm also one of the truly kindest to women. Look at 25, who thinks it's ok to add to the misery of girls young enough to be his granddaughter. And I won't even get to what 25 did to that poor immigrant girl in the bathroom of BabyDolls. You'll never read stories like that from me because I don't harbor the resentments against women that they do.
I'm only an asshole to old men who behave like oddball shut-ins or hyper-sensitive women. With the young buck I'm showing a kindness by being blunt. Shit like this is something normally taught by father to son, but since he obviously didn't get it there I (and others) are schooling him as best we can. Whether he accepts it or not is obviously his call.
==>But NiceSpice knows better, which is why she also follows me around with her accounts - I'm convinced she wants me to treat her like the good little bad girl that she is. ;)
==>mixed with oddly trollish "dancers" with ample time to troll
It seems ever since Rick found out that I was a ladyboy, he wants to cross swords ⚔️
@ricky What about the time you took a dancer OTC to a hotel. Drove her there (likely while drunk) Then booted her out after the deed and refused to drive her home because you were too drunk to drive. Then did not even give her cab fare... hmmm nice guy 😉
“ I'm also one of the truly kindest to women.” So says the guy who brags about calling dancers “punts” while making jerk off motions at them. What a delusional dumbass.
Doctor, sadly that was one particularly nasty girl on one night over a long and storied clubbing timeframe. But sadly for you and 25 bad treatment of women is par for the course.
25 will eagerly cut a girl off if she doesn't give him enough affirmation - he really is a needy fuck. That's when he's not squealing to the manager of sending her nasty texts.
You treat them like cheap cum-dumpsters, dragging them into men's rooms when you aren't refusing the honor your commitments when a girl actually wants a whole $100 for full on sex. What they call that is a pattern of bad behavior and I'm sure it's only the tip of the iceberg.
Btw Doctor I can't imagine that scene in the closed door private room when you explained to that young girl that full sex with her wasn't worth $100. Of course I couldn't imagine making that other girl get on her knees either in a dirty bathroom stall either. Ugh.
@D_E, Dugan constantly shows what a friendless twat he is, he’s actually just a super low class trailer park shithead who always resorts to the most vile innuendo and common bigotry
RickiBoi it’s not shame on either of us,
actually it’s shame on you,
25, you posted this stuff yourself. This is how you treat very young girls - easily young enough to be your granddaughters - just for trying to earn a living. Very angry and bitter.
And Doctor's stuff is also a matter of public record. Very sad stuff. You guys are Grade A misogynists. You give lip service on the discussion board, but when push comes to shove the proof is in your behavior and it is bad.
Ricky said..."But NiceSpice knows better, which is why she also follows me around with her accounts - I'm convinced she wants me to treat her like the good little bad girl that she is. ;)"
Then ricky said... "25, you posted this stuff yourself. This is how you treat very young girls - easily young enough to be your granddaughters - just for trying to earn a living. Very angry and bitter.
If the same rules apply both ways he thinks 25 wants to treat him like the good bad boy he is. Watch out 25. I think ricky is flirting with you 25. He is out of the closet now... 😉
Mack, and here I thought you were one of NiceSpice's troll accounts. Apparently either you are not or you're OK with his horrible treatment of your fellow dancers. Be careful if you ever meet up with 25, because if you don't show him enough continuous affirmation for his dollars, he will cut you off and send you snarky texts like asking you about your GPS. ;)
>No Rick the reason you act like an asshole here and not there is because they have a moderator and rules and they will throw your ass out, here your true self shines through.<
This post is what set off that amazing display of hatred and vitriol
Like I keep saying RickiBoi you are such a Dugan
Almost always for me, going to a strip club means going alone.
Friends I took once were only marginally interested in it. And too much money as they saw it. They did comment that I was really into the girls, much more than they were.
I guess it's kind of nice to have my own little fanboi Ricky Douchebag reading all my reviews and living vicariously through them (he probably wacks off while he reads them). Very weird and stalkerish, but a little flattering I guess. He does seem to have reading comprehension issues, though. He posts a bunch of innocuous discussions by 25 as evidence of misogyny, although he's the one who brags about calling girls punta and making obscene gestures at them (yeah, the mark of a real man, right?). And he claims I dragged a girl to a restroom and stiffed one out of $100 without posting my reviews. I'll post my Chicas Locas "restroom" review so the readers can decide who dragged who anywhere. https://tuscl.net/review.php?id=361789 A fun little episode. I doubt I'll repeat it, but who knows, maybe i will someday. As far as the misunderstanding over the $100, all turned out well and everyone was happy. https://tuscl.net/review.php?id=368530
Twentyfive posted: >No Rick the reason you act like an asshole here and not there is because they have a moderator and rules and they will throw your ass out, here your true self shines through.<
Yeah this sounds about right. I had it backwards. He doesn't go out of his way to be a jerk here, that's his true personality. Over there on stripperweb, as much as it must hurt him, he has to be respectful there. Otherwise he runs the risk of all those non extras, air dancing, $1000/night claiming dancers not liking him or worse, getting banned. Makes sense.
No worries, it's cool to see folks be able to be their true selves here.
My advice for a young guy going to a club alone to woo a stripper:
1. Wear a nice suit, 3 piece is preferable
2. Bring flowers, a dozen red roses would work
3. Don't tip or buy any dances from her, but tell her you have money to spend
4. Tell her she is too pretty to work at the club
5. Ask her out for dinner, mention how much your parents are going to love her
^^^^^ WCG's ideas might sound a bit distorted. But that's because they have their own strip clubs in the top floors of high rises. So the girls are already pretty much bought off.
Its all for when the Singularity occurs and humanity formally divides into Masters and Slaves.
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The posts above are spot-on -- but I think it's a very bad idea for a young person to be going to clubs. You should be saving your money and vanilla-dating girls your own age.
But Random was right, it is weird to go alone at 21. He should be enjoying civvie dating and cool bars with his buddies, not hanging out by himself surrounded by old men carrying Viagra and dreams of yesteryear.
Besides, he probably can't afford to do much anyway, so he'll get much more bang for the buck spending his limited cash on other entertainment.
I am going to go and on a limb and guess your ultimate goal I’d to have sex with this stripper.
And I am sure you can’t get civilian girls this hot on your “real” life.
Once you accept the fact that you are going to be paying for sex with this girl, the question is how much are you willing to pay.
I posted an article about:
Some Customers Get Ripped Off At Strip Clubs - How Not To Be One
https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=57218
Just listen to the advice given to you so you can learn from others experiences.
Be careful out there.
If you are somehow very mature for your age and got a bunch of daddy's money to spend then treat it as an occasional treat.
Good luck!
If you really have the money you should go and tell her:
“Hi, I am a busy professional concentrated in my career, so I am interviewing girls to find me a Sugar Baby that will be willing to meet once a week to make love and have fun.
Do you know someone that is nice, smart, beautiful, discreet, safe, that would be interested to be interviewed?”
Her response will let you know if you have a chance or not.
If she says “I am nice, smart and beautiful, and would be interested”
Than make an appointment to meet outside the club to have dinner and workout the details: Monthly allowance, days you would meet and for how long, sexual preferences, etc.
Make sure she understands that you value punctuality and reliability and communication above all and you have a three strikes and you are out policy.
Good luck and be careful out there.
I'm a massive fucking weeb who loves cute girls and ecchi. I think kawaii anime girls should be up there with the computer as the two greatest inventions of mankind. The type of girl I find most attractive is a girl who's sweet, cute, and shy but also has a very perverted and horny mind.
Forget going to the clubs alone. That os way too scary because there is human females there. Get a cute waifu doll. They are programmed to say yes to anything.
https://youtu.be/R5kPUFxXYLs
Happy 21st Birthday. TUSCL is not a place to tell you what's acceptable or not. When I was 21, I was still in college and strip clubs were something a lot of us did socially in our circle of friends to talk shit and spend a little. For those of us who stayed around town and didn't get/stay married, we kept clubbing together off and on for years. If the issue you're having is you're worried about what your friends will think, I'll break out the cliché that "real" friends are going to be ok with who you are.
If you do end up clubbing a lot with other dudes, just talk through some bro rules so things don't get awkward. If you think a girl is hot chances are your friends do, too, and the Law of Sloppy Seconds applies. Unless your crew shares everything, then it doesn't. See? If you want to go back alone, go back alone. All the other stuff the guys here said about watching your finances, feelings, etc are good things to keep in mind.
And have fun. Having fun is the thing I forget to do sometimes because of club drama some girls attract, which goes against the point of the hobby.
The funny statement here is he has a lot of money working at Amazon 50 hours a week. With his age and those hours I'm imagining he is a DSP driver for a firm contracted by Amazon. Those guys do not make a lot of money. It's ok, but not a lot. However if he still lives with mom and dad and has nothing but a cell phone payment to make every month then he might feel as though he's Scrooge McDuck right now.
I agree with what most of the posters above warned of. These girls are masters of making you think they feel a certain way for you, but it's an act designed to separate you from your money as quickly as possible. Just don't go expecting to make this dancer your girlfriend. Or hell who knows, maybe you can. I'm sure Icey Loco will be in here to give you some advice on how to do that. But I'd advise you to need all the warning you got from the folks above, especially Nidan.
If one's main objective at the SC is to socialize and party, then yeah being w/ other people is better for that - but if one is there to mainly get w/ the girls, then having buddies there is not necessary and can at times actually be a hindrance for various reasons - in the end, guys going alone to strip-clubs is not uncommon at all especially if you are there mainly for the girls - it's kinda like going on a date; you can do a group-date thing, or go solo if you just want to focus on her.
w.r.t. this "oh if you're young you should be getting pussy and not be in strip-clubs" - that's overblown and over-exaggerated - being young is no guarantee of getting pussy for various reasons - it's not like as if you are young, girls are gonna be giving it to you like free-bread - plenty of guys in their 20s are not getting any, or not getting the quality or quantity they would like - sure, if one can hook up consistently w/ young hot chicks then no point perhaps in spending hundreds in the club - but I think there are as many, if not more, young guys not getting the sexual-satisfaction they want for various reasons from not having game, being late-bloomers, not being that great-looking, shy, etc - plenty of young-guys are hard-up and not getting what they want, when they want it, from who they want, sexual-wise.
So this "don't go to clubs if you're young", I don't necessarily think is the best advice - sure better to "get it for free" from a girl that wants to be w/ you, but this is not always the case for young guys and being constantly hard-up is IMO worse than clubbing if clubbing is their only outlet for w/e reason - again plenty of young guys are not getting the sexual satisfaction they crave for various reasons, or getting w/ the types of girls they would like/want to get with.
At 21, you shouldn't be going to strip clubs, other than the occasional night out with your buddies. You should be going to places where you can meet "civvies."
An inexperienced monger in a strip club could lead to trouble, in the form of separating you from what little money you probably have, as others have detailed the stripper scams.
Don't do the solo strip club thing until you're old, lonely, bitter and broken up after a long marriage or relationship, like me.
For this hobby, it also helps to be a financially secure position that you generally don't attain until later in life.
Inexperienced SCers are often taken advantaged of - many of these girls have a huge advantage on the avg guy that rarely SCs since these girls are in the club night-in and night-out for months and years on end thus know the game way better than the avg guy walking into a club - some rules of thumb many SCers agree on:
+ don't fall in-love with a stripper - it's their job to make you feel like they are way into you - that is how they make $$$ and making $$$ is the reason they are there; they are not there to hook-up nor find "Mr Right" - most of them already have BFs or guys they date outside the club - strippers rarely look at guys in the club as dating material, guys in the club are there to be fleeced and are basically looked at as walking-ATMs - at the end of the day, if you don't get w/ girls like that IRL then don't expect the girl in the club to be any different - in the SC it's business for the girls
+ avoid using a credit-card in the club - some clubs, or certain staff, will add bogus charges to a custy's cc, sometimes in the thousands - giving them your CC is giving them access to charge w/e they want - not saying using a CC always causes issues, but def happens
+ don't fall for tales of woe, this is a common scam to extract $$$ from custies - and don't try to be a white-knight and try to "save a stripper" from the lifestyle - it's a fool's errand
+ avoid paying dancers upfront on promises they will do 'X' - more often than not the girls that insist on upfront payment do so to rip you off
You get VIP by paying for it, or writing a good-review of a club visit that gets approved.
No problem with indulging every once in awhile but be careful to not use up all your money messing with these dancers.
😊
Then you definitely can't afford strippers. There are old dudes on this site spending as much on strippers in a single night as you take home in a week. Consider saving up for your own place so you can get laid by girls your own age instead of living with your Mom and only seeing them naked in a strip club.
Young guys in the club aren’t that unusual imo. And I don’t get the shaming. I’ve danced for some guys before who young and physically attractive for several dances in a row before. Not every shift, but enough for it to not be something absolutely weird as some might imply.
As far as how much is typically needed to enjoy a SC, that’s for you to discover. What are dance prices in your area? How much of a thing is stage tipping at your club? Do you care more about getting lap dances or the bantering before that? (If you want to banter, then probably preemptively offer a drink when a dancer sits down, and factor that into how much you’re willing to spend).
Don’t go back to the same club to get dances from the dancer you found to be unforgettable the other night. If you return, and she remembers you (or you remind her about the other night), she will know you want her, and she knows how to lead you along, and empty your wallet.
If you want to become a filthy young clubbing pervert, read the articles and discussions here. But remember, this is an expensive hobby, and it’s more fun when you don’t need to worry about wasting lots of money.
Yeah, that's it. If clubs are fun for you then keep it fun. What a bunch of dudes are saying here is that there's other stuff that comes along with spending more time in clubs than just the casual visit. How much you should spend is what you can afford. Preferably comfortably. If what you can spend doesn't get you the experience you are looking for, take a break and try again later. Later could be when you have more money to spend or you work something out to get what you're looking for from someone who'll take less to give you that experience.
This story changes faster than a newborn's diapers. First he's a renter with a few nominal bills (rent, car insurance, phone) and now he co-owns a house that he stays in alone most of the time. I'm sure if I ask him who is paying the rest of the mortgage and all of the utilities (water, electric, sewage), groceries, home owner's insurance, property taxes, maintenance and repairs, etc.,etc., he'll create something for that too. "Cause there's no way a 21 year old kid on a $16/hr job is doing all that.
It's so weird when these little scenarios are posted. It's like the person behind these troll accounts has no concept of the real world or human interactions. He/she can manage to piece together a weirdly hollow rendition of an intro story, but all too often it falls apart quickly. Then of course the "I am a unicorn" tapdance starts, with ever shifting conditions.
I often play along for lack of anything else to comment on, but when you do a bad job of portraying a real person, take your lumps instead of creating this silly nonsense.
@FLOrange I'd say there is nothing weird about someone going to clubs alone as a customer. Those are my favorite customers to approach generally- or smaller groups. Though I can approach anyone and larger groups, I'm just saying some are higher on the order of priorities LOL.
But his age and financial circumstances matter whether he is asking about them or not. A young guy usually doesn't have the resources to blow large sums on strippers, nor is it a healthy pursuit for a guy who hasn't done shit in this life yet with civvie women. When they do go, they are almost always in groups and it is a party atmosphere as opposed to a dancer fixation issue. It's all inter-related IMHO.
On $600/week take home (if he's lucky) it would be a challenge almost anywhere. Even if his "rent" was $500 per month, he'd also have minimum expenses for car insurance ($100/mo), utilities ($200/mo); phone ($50/mo); groceries ($250/mo), gas ($200/mo); home Internet ($50/mo); misc. expenses ($250/mo) - we are already at $1,600 per month assuming a bare bone budget. That only leaves him $800 per month for any emergency items and everything else that comes up on the need and want front.
And I was generous re: his low expenses and controlled spending. All said and done there ain't much stripper money in that budget.
I am assuming this kid if he's a real person is not going to go to the club every month blowing hundreds. But here and there??? shit why not! you all are acting like he's a drug addict or something.
I remember one young guy who I saw do this. The stripper used to nickname him "Home Depot Guy." We laughed about him ITC on a few different occasions before I took her OTC for a fuck and suck. He used to hang out and follow her like a puppy. He got so infatuated that he started spending money he didn't have, until he eventually busted out and had to take on a second job to pay off the credit cards he ran up.
It is just not financially or emotionally healthy for young guys to visit clubs alone to visit strippers.
also, the money he makes is more than enough to hit a club. you don't need 500 dollars in your pocket to have a good time at a club. its possible to get addicted, but its not guarantee. and just because he's going to clubs at a young age....doesn't mean he's not picking up any chicks.
late bloomer. then rushed into marriage.
FLOrange. just enjoy the ladies.
don’t get carried away.
enjoy life.
Hey it is what it is, you're a jerk here and a cool guy there, fine. Own that shit.
Dude, find a different club. $40/dance is pretty expensive. Find a place that's more like $20 or $25 a dance. If you're stuck on a girl at the $40 club, go somewhere else and you'll probably be able to find a replacement pretty easily.
As for how much to bring to enjoy a SC, there are threads that have discussed this, but it's going to be based a lot on what you can afford. Some guys go pretty often and just bring $100-200. Others go less often or have deeper pockets, and bring $300-500 or even more. To have a good time, I'd say bring about $300 and manage your time and money burn rate. $260 isn't a bad amount to bring and is a reasonable amount to have a good time. You just burned through it too quickly. If you had gone to a reasonably priced club where the dances are $25/song, you could have used $60 on cover/drinks/tips, and used the remaining $200 for dances. If you did 2 songs/girl, you could have sampled 4 girls. It's enough to have fun, but not enough to get too deep. Use the search tool on the TUSCL home page and read through past discussion threads for advice on how to level up on your SC game. These girls are sharks, so you need to know how to play the game so as not to get ripped off too badly. You WILL get ripped off at some point. We all have. It's part of the learning curve and the game.
@FLOrange: Don't be that young guy with limited funds hanging out in a club by himself. Go to the gym, spend the money on some civvie dates and get some overnight ass, explore some cool bars, etc. In other words do the things that young guys are supposed to do. Hanging out by yourself in a club, pissing away valuable cash that doesn't come easy, ain't one of those things.
Wow! This makes lots of sense! Ricky strokes managers and greases bouncers. He fucks dudes bareback so he doesnt get a girl pregnant. (Genious move being a faggot to hide fucking around from your wife, so no unexpected bambinos show up. ) He is an ass holebto young guys because he is jaded from his younger years of clubbing... he must have been Home Depot guy... which maynhsve causedbhim to swear off girls and go for dudes instead. He got married to hide his faggotry. He is nice on stripperweb because he is trying to improve his ways of trolling for dudes. His antics to pick up dudes on tuscl did not work over here so he is pissed and jaded and is an ass hole over here.
Da Mackie figures it out! 😂😂😂😂😂
Now you can wink at dudes all you want unapologeticly 😘😉😘😉😘😉😘😉😘😉😘😉😘😉😘😉
A few years ago I wrote this article on one’s first visit to a strip club. You may find it useful. It may also be useful to the veteran clubber when going to a strange club for the first time :
< https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=46476 >
I also wrote this article you may find useful on how to have a good time at a strip club without spending a fortune:
< https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=19523 >
You have gotten a lot of good advice already above, and also some not so good.
Enjoy your future clubbing, and remember, leave the debit and credit cardS home.
Doctor wishes this was the case, which is why he keeps vying for my attention with bad satire when he's not getting blowjobs in the men's room at Babydolls (disgusting story btw). But NiceSpice knows better, which is why she also follows me around with her accounts - I'm convinced she wants me to treat her like the good little bad girl that she is. ;)
Of course it is Stud. Only in this twisted place, full of weirdly effeminate and childless "male" posters mixed with oddly trollish "dancers" with ample time to troll, is it purportedly normal for a young guy with limited funds to visit a strip club alone to pursue a dancer his own age or older.
What a fuckn weirdo LOL
Da Mackie figures it out! 😂😂😂😂😂
Huh? Nice, I'm one of the least jaded guys on here. I'm also one of the truly kindest to women. Look at 25, who thinks it's ok to add to the misery of girls young enough to be his granddaughter. And I won't even get to what 25 did to that poor immigrant girl in the bathroom of BabyDolls. You'll never read stories like that from me because I don't harbor the resentments against women that they do.
I'm only an asshole to old men who behave like oddball shut-ins or hyper-sensitive women. With the young buck I'm showing a kindness by being blunt. Shit like this is something normally taught by father to son, but since he obviously didn't get it there I (and others) are schooling him as best we can. Whether he accepts it or not is obviously his call.
==>mixed with oddly trollish "dancers" with ample time to troll
It seems ever since Rick found out that I was a ladyboy, he wants to cross swords ⚔️
@25: Not all of us need this place for personal affirmation like you do. 😉
25 will eagerly cut a girl off if she doesn't give him enough affirmation - he really is a needy fuck. That's when he's not squealing to the manager of sending her nasty texts.
You treat them like cheap cum-dumpsters, dragging them into men's rooms when you aren't refusing the honor your commitments when a girl actually wants a whole $100 for full on sex. What they call that is a pattern of bad behavior and I'm sure it's only the tip of the iceberg.
Shame on both of you.
RickiBoi it’s not shame on either of us,
actually it’s shame on you,
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6346…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6339…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=6511…
Then ricky said... "25, you posted this stuff yourself. This is how you treat very young girls - easily young enough to be your granddaughters - just for trying to earn a living. Very angry and bitter.
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If the same rules apply both ways he thinks 25 wants to treat him like the good bad boy he is. Watch out 25. I think ricky is flirting with you 25. He is out of the closet now... 😉
This post is what set off that amazing display of hatred and vitriol
Like I keep saying RickiBoi you are such a Dugan
Friends I took once were only marginally interested in it. And too much money as they saw it. They did comment that I was really into the girls, much more than they were.
SJG
https://youtu.be/pWa0dZMHYeE?t=4
Yeah this sounds about right. I had it backwards. He doesn't go out of his way to be a jerk here, that's his true personality. Over there on stripperweb, as much as it must hurt him, he has to be respectful there. Otherwise he runs the risk of all those non extras, air dancing, $1000/night claiming dancers not liking him or worse, getting banned. Makes sense.
No worries, it's cool to see folks be able to be their true selves here.
1. Wear a nice suit, 3 piece is preferable
2. Bring flowers, a dozen red roses would work
3. Don't tip or buy any dances from her, but tell her you have money to spend
4. Tell her she is too pretty to work at the club
5. Ask her out for dinner, mention how much your parents are going to love her
WCG
Its all for when the Singularity occurs and humanity formally divides into Masters and Slaves.
SJG