OTC Price limit
CrimsonCaravan
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Long time lurker of the website here. Finally decided to make an account because I think I have something that's worth asking
For those of you that have decided to go through with paid fun outside of the club, where did you draw the line at how much you were willing to pay?
For those of you that have decided to go through with paid fun outside of the club, where did you draw the line at how much you were willing to pay?
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There's a few factors that go into where I draw the line -- the ultimate limit, of course, is how much I could afford, given that I want to do it at least once or twice a month. But that number is higher than what my actual limit is. I set my limit based on asking lots of girls for OTC over many years, as a result I know about what the average is; I'll adjust a little higher or lower based on how hot she is, but that's about what I offer. I also compare that number against other activities -- e.g., PPM for an SB -- and make sure it's still worth it. Although at least in this area, OTC prices for an attractive stripper, and PPM for an attractive SB, aren't terribly far off from each other
WCG
@Subraman So your very first OTC experience EVER, how much did you pay for that? Because I've never had any before so I don't really have anything to compare it to other than what I make every month. To be honest OTC fun was her idea and full service is implied
If you state your clubbing area and/or which clubs you visit, it helps in giving a bit better feedback.
Having said this - there's sorta a range per se vs an exact figure - more often than not guys that overpay often do so b/c they are inexperienced and don't know better and dancers pounce on this.
500 seems a little steep but she says there are no time constraints as long as it's not some ridiculous period of time, but even that is still pretty vague. The only reason I consider this is because her and I seemed to click pretty well in the club
Paid OTC can also be sex as well, it is isn't always non-sex stuff although some people may prefer that
If one is looking for more-or-less the same type of service OTC as one gets ITC (mainly just sex), then IMO ITC prices are a decent barometer to go by - some will state ITC pricing has no bearing on OTC pricing but IDK exactly why there is no connection.
@Supraman Thanks for insight! I guess the price I would pay is roughly about double VIP in the club
I won't say the name of the club out of privacy reasons, but it is located in Los Angeles, CA. I don't frequent the club very often so I rarely get OTC offers if any at all. I have no real basis of comparison
Maybe I’ll change my mind sometime but right now I just want to fuck. All the rest of the stuff that’s fun for some of these other guys isn’t for me right now.
This is good-enough info to get a ballpark figure - so you're saying ITC sex is ~$250 at this club? If so, personally I think $500 would be too-much to get about the same level of service as ITC - unless it was a whole-day date kinda thing then personally I could see the upcharge but o/w I would not pay 2x to get about the same as ITC.
The thing is ITC sex isn't the same as it is outside, you've got people around you and sometimes unplanned disturbances. I'm gonna have to think and consider whether paying double is worth it for the privacy and "normal" environment. Unfortunately I don't think a "date" style outing is an option.
@Huntsman The real kicker is that I don't know her that well. We get along, but we haven't spent any real time other than client/customer
@twentyfive And you're probably right, if I actually like her I'll find a way to justify the price. I just want to make sure that this is a fair transaction from the eyes of someone that isn't involved. Seems like I should try to negotiate before settling
An additional variable is the type of club she works at - is it a seller's or buyer's market - i.e. often times the easier it is for the dancer to make good/sure $$$ ITC often times the less of an incentive for OTC or to do it unless it's a very-good payout - whereas if she has to hustle hard to make $$$ ITC or ITC $$$ is for w/e reason fairly-unstable, then she may be more apt to accept a more reasonable offer.
The fact that she initiated the OTC discussion and she was the one that stated the price, it may be that she normally looks to augment her ITC earning$ and would be willing to take less since it's common for dancers to overshoot when giving custies an offer since many custies don't know any better and a good # will bite.
Personally - I would offer $300 if ITC going-rate is around that or a bit lower - this is assuming that this is not a "I gotta have her" situation b/c as others said $500 is not way out in left field but personally I feel it's overpaying given the club she works at - as has been mentioned, often times the price one starts at kinda gets you locked into that price in the case you may wanna have this be a repeat thing.
Also - have you done ITC w/ her yet? If not then this is another variable to consider in that you don't know if it'll be worth it OTC.
WCG
If you don't know this girl well, going to her place of residence could be very dangerous. She might set you up to be robbed or killed.
@heaving Why does it prevent you from contributing? Elaborate please! And if by computer background you mean computer skills then yes you are correct to some degree
She was nervous as fuck the first time but once she learned I wasn’t an axe murderer she settled into a twice weekly routine.
I will play along since all written in this site is work of fiction.
“A thing is worth what someone is willing to pay for it; and someone is willing to accept for it. No more, and no less.”
One word of advice, before you hop into bed, just be clear on what you are looking for in the relationship (a sugar baby relationship, Casual “escorting type of sex?” Boyfriend/Girlfriend sex? one night stand?) so you can make informed choices and can be honest with her about your expectations.
I would not offer less than she is asking for this first time, because the lower the price the lower the level of service; but would ask her “if this time works out and we have “chemistry” and it becomes a repeat thing or set a schedule (sugar baby type) would the price per meeting wold be better (300-400)”
Remember what Vivian said in Pretty Woman”
“Baby, I'm gonna treat you so nice, you're never gonna wanna let me go ...”
You probably want her to have that attitude to provide you with a good experience.
I think the goal here is to have a mutually beneficial experience where you both walk away feeling that it was a good deal and would like to do it again.
In any case just prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
Let us know what happens.
Good luck and be careful out there.
There isn't a technique that works all the time, nor a technique that never works - dealing w/ strippers is often a crapshoot - there are no "written rules' everyone (dancers, custies) abide by - but I too disagree w/ the statement above - if one always went w/ what a dancer throws-out, one would be consistently unnecessarily overpaying - and has been mentioned, once a price has been set, usually that is what she'll expect going-forward - dropping the price/$$$ for subsequent OTCs is usually more detrimental than coming to a mutual agreement from the get-go.
Most important thing to do, if you intend to see her multiple times, is make sure the price is acceptable the first time. This is exactly the right time to negotiate, and as long you negotiate down to a number she's still okay with, your service will be fine
But the fact that she's already giving it up for $250 ITC makes me wonder where she is on the quality scale. That is obviously good money in many parts of the country, but not so much in L.A. I wouldn't pay $500 to fuck a 6 no matter what part of the country she was operating in.
If she is hot and you just don't want to spend that kind of money, maybe counter for $400 and see what she says. It's only a few days before Christmas, so she may be feeling some pressure to buy presents and put a little aside to carry her through the slow holiday season.
I’ve seen her off and on for four years and we follow the same pattern. She’ll tell me she needs something, I’ll buy it and once we get to the $300 to $400 range we’ll finally find a mutually agreeable time.
Last month I was sending her $20 to $30 almost every day. She was buying lunch one day, buying weed the next , then she called me and asked if I could come to her apartment; her mom was taking the kids for the night.
@CJKent To be honest I never put that much thought into what I want out of this besides casual physical pleasure. A sugar type of relationship is something that I do not want to get into and BF/GF sex seems like a great option, although it would most likely not be a frequent occurrence
However if the cost is in the ballpark (when compared to what others have mentioned) but feels offputting that may be a signal that one is not as interested or comfortable or ready yet (and there is nothing wrong with that).
Basically my main (and unsolicited) advice is that once the price is agreed upon treat it as a sunk cost, and just go ahead and enjoy. What that price is has no bearing upon the enjoyment so long as you do not let it.
I will use the movie Pretty Woman again for reference, Vivian and Edward negotiate the price for her to be his beck-and-call girl, and goes back and forth “adjusting the details” and finally settling on the price of $300, if I remember correctly, for the week.
For her, it's a lot of money and an easy workweek. However He said he would have paid more because he can afford it.
In your individual case depends on the girls’s ability to satisfy your needs or requirements, at a price you and her agree/believe/feel is fair.
It is all perception, just remember:
“The bitterness of poor quality remains after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.”
Thanks for catching my typo, yes $3000 fo the week and $300 for the night.
I am glad someone is paying attention.
“It's unwise to pay too much, but it's worse to pay too little.
When you pay too much, you lose a little money - that's all.
When you pay too little, you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do.”
-John Ruskin
(8 February,1819 - 20 January, 1900)
What makes you think that the offer will be there forever? These girls are flaky and a girl who decides to do that today may decide tomorrow that she doesn't want to fuck and suck for money anymore. The only way you'll ever know if this is something you would enjoy is to cowboy up and pull the trigger on one.
Because strippers keep telling me no sex in the champagne room 😟😪
Maybe I'm wrong, but it does seem like many women can get a minimal about of enjoyment from making out with a physically unattractive man, if she feels a little special to him. I feel like I typically manage that, by being generous, affectionate and unpushy.
IMHO you may need to rethink your approach if this is something you're seeking, like visiting during slower nights, or changing how you approach it with the girls, or change whatever else it is that is leading you to that conclusion.
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The hottest brazzers pornstars are available for around $1000+ an hour, so I don’t know if I should be paying any strippers that unless they’re similarly hot
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For OTC with a reliable and filthy dancer, I will set a limit of about $500 for an hour session. The cost of the hotel room and possible tip is not included in the $500.
If the girl isn’t a clock watcher - and she’s energetic - I might tip her up to $100. I don’t want any GFE bullshit.
I want her to show up close to the time set, get naked, and let me start pounding away. I’m a simple pervert, so it’s a pretty simple 60 minutes of work for her.
How cheap are the hotel rooms? What if you use those cheap motels for an hour? Do they give a cheaper rate for the hour?