Hwo do you distribute your P4P spend?
herbtcat
Cool Cat in the Valley
Not interested in dollars, just percentages of how your P4P spend gets divided between the following categories:
1. Lap dances
2. Lap dances with extras
3. OTC with one or more strippers
4. Sugar babies
5. Pro escorts (not strippers)
6. Porn stars
7. Tinder/BumbleBee dates / "UTR pros"
8. Civilian pickups that required some form of gift
9. Current spouse/GF (and yes, it may not always be cash, but you are still paying for it.)
I'll provide my data after several replies.
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2. 70%
3. 25%
4-9 = 0%
2. 40%
3. 40%
4-9 0%
2. 45%
3-8. 0%
9. 50% (court ordered spousal support.)
5% 1. Lap dances
10% 2. Lap dances with extras
10% 3. OTC with one or more strippers
60% 4. Sugar babies
0% 5. Pro escorts (not strippers)
15% 6. Porn stars
0% 7. Tinder/BumbleBee dates / "UTR pros"
0% 8. Civilian pickups that required some form of gift
N/A 9. Current spouse/GF (and yes, it may not always be cash, but you are still paying for it.)
2. 30%
3-9 = 0%
2. 25%
3. 25%
4. 0
5. 0
6. 0
7. 0
8. 10%
9. 0
10. Bargirls: 40%
I don't count my spouse as p4p, nor should anyone who has a wife who bears and then raises his children. p4p girls are just a cheap and silly diversion by comparison.
Also, this little survey didn't factor in other non-LD non-p4p payments to dancers, such as tips stage side or barside, so these were not included in my definition.
1. 100%
Have done 2 - 6 and the inevitable 9 in the past
Not sure why 9 is here, I mean birthday dinner out, remember your anniversary, some people 'pay' more than that?
I want fewer pie charts in my life.
I know I spend zero on 4-7. 8/9 I don't know what you mean. If you count buying dinner/drinks for Civi's and GF's there's some money spent there, but its not like I'm buying girls stuff to get in their pants in any sort of informal quid pro quo type situation. I'm gonna go ahead and call that nothing too though. That just leaves Lap Dances/ITC/OTC. I'd say 20/20/60 split.
Like Rick mentioned, you didn't include incidentals like stage tipping or buying drinks, so I'm leaving that out. I'd say these days most, maybe 75%, of my in club spending is on that stuff. That could be considered in support of the other stuff though.
And @Rick, do you mean you don't buy any dances at all? Or just that any spending ITC is in pursuit of OTC so you're just considering the dances part of the OTC cost?
It's been a year since I bought a LD and I've had a ton of club visits between then and now. I'd rather tip a girl under the table than go back into a place where I'm limited in what I can do and monitored by other grown men. I'm just not wired to find that exciting or sexy. The only time I buy LDs is when I'm in the type of club where getting them is basically a prerequisite to negotiating anything else, but fortunately that is infrequent.
2- 20%
"@OP keeping a spreadsheet isn’t normal pervert behavior"
Agreed.
And I'm sure writing a web & iOS app which accesses a 3GB mongering history database isn't normal pervert behavior, either.
But here I am.
1. 60%
2. 25%
3. 15%
But I'm new to this shit, still learning.
2. Lap dances with extras 9%
3. OTC with one or more strippers 15%
4. Sugar babies 65%
5. Pro escorts (not strippers) 0%
6. Porn stars 0%
7. Tinder/BumbleBee dates / "UTR pros" 5%
8. Civilian pickups that required some form of gift 5%
9. Current spouse/GF (and yes, it may not always be cash, but you are still paying for it.) N/A - P4P cash is just for them.
If you keep a spreadsheet, notes, or not, to each there own, that would not constitute or disqualify as "normal" pervert behavior.
That's what generic terms like 'honey" or "sweetie" are for.
Fucking A, some of you guys work way too hard at something that is casual entertainment. With all the other stuff in my life i have neither the bandwith nor the desire to bother. Most of these girls won't remember you name either, so they understand. I've never had a problem with re-introduction when I want to do spend on the same girl again. I'll also remember the name once she becomes memorable enough, but if not then no need.
"Hey Honey, good to see you again."
"No, Honey's back in VIP."
"Oh... sorry, Sweetie."
"Ugh. Sweetie's on stage!"
You're probably right that some us work too hard at this shit. OTOH, thinking too much about yr hobby is sometimes the fun part. Keeps me from thinking about work. But that's why I read this board, I can always learn from others w/ more experience than me.
I wonder how many strippers keep notes on their custies, like Sasha Grey in The Girlfriend Experience movie. Some girls remember a lot of details from our pre-dance conversations. (Actually, keeping spreadsheets on what they make is probably good business...waiters I know have an app to keep track of their tips over time.)
".waiters I know have an app to keep track of their tips over time.)"
I think I know a few strippers who use an app to keep track of PL "tips". And pretty sure it tracks shafts, girths, and ball sweat as well! :p