Hwo do you distribute your P4P spend?

herbtcat
Cool Cat in the Valley
I've been speculating that I may not be the uber-level perv that I think I am, so I'm asking this as a baseline of comparison. Noting that readers in the VIP Room are already de-facto above average pervs, of course.

Not interested in dollars, just percentages of how your P4P spend gets divided between the following categories:

1. Lap dances
2. Lap dances with extras
3. OTC with one or more strippers
4. Sugar babies
5. Pro escorts (not strippers)
6. Porn stars
7. Tinder/BumbleBee dates / "UTR pros"
8. Civilian pickups that required some form of gift
9. Current spouse/GF (and yes, it may not always be cash, but you are still paying for it.)

I'll provide my data after several replies.

Thanks for contributing.

38 comments

  • whodey
    5 years ago
    1. 5%
    2. 70%
    3. 25%
    4-9 = 0%
  • chowder
    5 years ago
    1. 20%
    2. 40%
    3. 40%
    4-9 0%

  • Jascoi
    5 years ago
    1. 5%
    2. 45%
    3-8. 0%
    9. 50% (court ordered spousal support.)
  • herbtcat
    5 years ago
    Here's my data:

    5% 1. Lap dances
    10% 2. Lap dances with extras
    10% 3. OTC with one or more strippers
    60% 4. Sugar babies
    0% 5. Pro escorts (not strippers)
    15% 6. Porn stars
    0% 7. Tinder/BumbleBee dates / "UTR pros"
    0% 8. Civilian pickups that required some form of gift
    N/A 9. Current spouse/GF (and yes, it may not always be cash, but you are still paying for it.)
  • Papi_Chulo
    5 years ago
    1. 70%
    2. 30%
    3-9 = 0%
  • Cristobal
    5 years ago
    1. 5%
    2. 25%
    3. 25%
    4. 0
    5. 0
    6. 0
    7. 0
    8. 10%
    9. 0
    10. Bargirls: 40%
  • Nidan111
    5 years ago
    I don’t have stats. If i like where I am at the time, then I really don’t give a shit what U pay. I pay up to $300 for VIP service. If they want more, I simply move one to the next. I will pay $200 to a gal if she just wants to have fun with me drinking and eating and talking. I can generally get FS for $100. I actually pay more for the friendly interaction. So, $100 for FS and no friendly interaction, $200 for friendly interaction and $300 for both friendly interaction and FS. I ACTUALLY prefer the friendly interaction over the FS. WEIRD, but true!
  • rickdugan
    5 years ago
    3. 100%

    I don't count my spouse as p4p, nor should anyone who has a wife who bears and then raises his children. p4p girls are just a cheap and silly diversion by comparison.

    Also, this little survey didn't factor in other non-LD non-p4p payments to dancers, such as tips stage side or barside, so these were not included in my definition.
  • Icey
    5 years ago
    sircumsinhispantsalot is the only one on here who considers wives and girlfriends P4P lmao
  • edgewise
    5 years ago
    Currently at
    1. 100%

    Have done 2 - 6 and the inevitable 9 in the past
  • gSteph
    5 years ago
    1. 100%.

    Not sure why 9 is here, I mean birthday dinner out, remember your anniversary, some people 'pay' more than that?
  • Jascoi
    5 years ago
    if i didn’t have my ‘spousal support’ i’d be spending that much more on these fine lovely young ladies.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
    5 years ago
    I spend on whatever is (A) fun and (B) available.

    I want fewer pie charts in my life.
  • Dolfan
    5 years ago
    I really have no idea overall how its split.

    I know I spend zero on 4-7. 8/9 I don't know what you mean. If you count buying dinner/drinks for Civi's and GF's there's some money spent there, but its not like I'm buying girls stuff to get in their pants in any sort of informal quid pro quo type situation. I'm gonna go ahead and call that nothing too though. That just leaves Lap Dances/ITC/OTC. I'd say 20/20/60 split.

    Like Rick mentioned, you didn't include incidentals like stage tipping or buying drinks, so I'm leaving that out. I'd say these days most, maybe 75%, of my in club spending is on that stuff. That could be considered in support of the other stuff though.

    And @Rick, do you mean you don't buy any dances at all? Or just that any spending ITC is in pursuit of OTC so you're just considering the dances part of the OTC cost?
  • twentyfive
    5 years ago
    @OP keeping a spreadsheet isn’t normal pervert behavior
  • Jascoi
    5 years ago
    For me keeping a spreadsheet (mental or paper) is me trying to justify what I have spent so far on this very expensive delightful hobby. shit. i’ve even done that with my previous hobbies.
  • rickdugan
    5 years ago
    ===> "And @Rick, do you mean you don't buy any dances at all? Or just that any spending ITC is in pursuit of OTC so you're just considering the dances part of the OTC cost?"

    It's been a year since I bought a LD and I've had a ton of club visits between then and now. I'd rather tip a girl under the table than go back into a place where I'm limited in what I can do and monitored by other grown men. I'm just not wired to find that exciting or sexy. The only time I buy LDs is when I'm in the type of club where getting them is basically a prerequisite to negotiating anything else, but fortunately that is infrequent.
  • Bavarian
    5 years ago
    1. 100%
  • prevert
    5 years ago
    Used to be about 95% 1, and 5% 5. I haven't seen a hooker since I realized what's really going on in clubs, so it's probably 50-50 between 1 and 2 right now. I wouldn't mind adding #3 to the mix, but I really haven't found anybody that floats my boat enough to do that yet. Seems like it could be a lot of drama if you're not careful.
  • Huntsman
    5 years ago
    1-5 have varied at times over the years but I don’t have a breakdown in my head. I go by mood and what’s out there to be enjoyed at the time.
  • skibum609
    5 years ago
    1 - 80%

    2- 20%
  • herbtcat
    5 years ago
    @twentyfive:

    "@OP keeping a spreadsheet isn’t normal pervert behavior"

    Agreed.

    And I'm sure writing a web & iOS app which accesses a 3GB mongering history database isn't normal pervert behavior, either.

    But here I am.
  • Eric2100
    5 years ago
    I keep a document of which girls I got dances from and how I spent my $$$, and it's like 80% accurate.

    1. 60%
    2. 25%
    3. 15%

    But I'm new to this shit, still learning.
  • gSteph
    5 years ago
    Guess I'm not a normal pervert either. I keep a spreadsheet on SCing. How else would you remember the details when you get old and forgetful?
  • Eric2100
    5 years ago
    Keeping a record helps keep me from calling girls by the wrong name. ;-)
  • Uprightcitizen
    5 years ago
    1. Lap dances 1%
    2. Lap dances with extras 9%
    3. OTC with one or more strippers 15%
    4. Sugar babies 65%
    5. Pro escorts (not strippers) 0%
    6. Porn stars 0%
    7. Tinder/BumbleBee dates / "UTR pros" 5%
    8. Civilian pickups that required some form of gift 5%
    9. Current spouse/GF (and yes, it may not always be cash, but you are still paying for it.) N/A - P4P cash is just for them.
  • Cristobal
    5 years ago
    These numbers are just guesses, it a number on the TUSCL discussion board not an official company expense report.

    If you keep a spreadsheet, notes, or not, to each there own, that would not constitute or disqualify as "normal" pervert behavior.
  • MackTruck
    5 years ago
    I save it all for the $20 lot lizzards. Best use of money ever
  • MackTruck
    5 years ago
    And the $5 lapperz
  • MackTruck
    5 years ago
    And I bring poket shots
  • MackTruck
    5 years ago
    And drink
  • MackTruck
    5 years ago
    and drink
  • rickdugan
    5 years ago
    ===> "Keeping a record helps keep me from calling girls by the wrong name. ;-)"

    That's what generic terms like 'honey" or "sweetie" are for.

    Fucking A, some of you guys work way too hard at something that is casual entertainment. With all the other stuff in my life i have neither the bandwith nor the desire to bother. Most of these girls won't remember you name either, so they understand. I've never had a problem with re-introduction when I want to do spend on the same girl again. I'll also remember the name once she becomes memorable enough, but if not then no need.
  • Eric2100
    5 years ago
    ===> "That's what generic terms like 'honey" or "sweetie" are for."


    "Hey Honey, good to see you again."

    "No, Honey's back in VIP."

    "Oh... sorry, Sweetie."

    "Ugh. Sweetie's on stage!"
  • rickdugan
    5 years ago
    ^ Why would you ever have to say the second or fourth out loud to someone else? And 1 and 3 work just fine when speaking directly to her.
  • Eric2100
    5 years ago
    Haha alright, it was meant to be a dialogue, so the 2nd and 4th were the stripper's responses. The joke being that Honey and Sweetie are the kind of names strippers use.

    You're probably right that some us work too hard at this shit. OTOH, thinking too much about yr hobby is sometimes the fun part. Keeps me from thinking about work. But that's why I read this board, I can always learn from others w/ more experience than me.

    I wonder how many strippers keep notes on their custies, like Sasha Grey in The Girlfriend Experience movie. Some girls remember a lot of details from our pre-dance conversations. (Actually, keeping spreadsheets on what they make is probably good business...waiters I know have an app to keep track of their tips over time.)
  • herbtcat
    5 years ago
    @Eric2100

    ".waiters I know have an app to keep track of their tips over time.)"

    I think I know a few strippers who use an app to keep track of PL "tips". And pretty sure it tracks shafts, girths, and ball sweat as well! :p
  • Countryman5434
    5 years ago
    Escorts 20 percent bg 60 percent sg 30 percent
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