Fat Is The New Skinny
sinclair
Strip Club Nation
What I have noticed over the last few years is the number of fat (or to not offend anyone, "curvy" or "thick") strippers there are nowadays. Back in the 1990's it was rare to see a big woman working the titty bars. Now, it seems like some lower or mid level strip clubs are full of overweight women whether that is 30-40 pounds or 100 pounds overweight. When 3/4 of American adults are considered obese by some accounts, I guess this is no surprise. Factors I attribute to this:
1. Processed foods are everywhere. If you are not raising your own livestock and gardening, then you are eating processed food to some extent.
2. It is cheaper and less time consuming to eat out than cook a meal from scratch at home.
3. There are too many sedentary options: streaming televison (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, Youtube Red), addiction to social media, constant texting.
4. When the older (and fatter) Kardashians became idolized as a standard of beauty.
5. A good percentage of America is government dependent. Why work when the government will give you food stamps, healthcare, and housing for free? Once upon a time, welfare did not exist. You either got up and worked every day or starved.
6. Cars and gasoline are relatively cheap. Nobody walks anymore. Some new subdivisions don't even have sidewalks.
Now, what is worse is how American guys have raised the white flag and accepted fat women over the last decade or two. I have several acquaintances and coworkers who married chubby or downright fat women. Will they even be able to find her pussy hole in all of that blubber? Terms like "curvy" and "slim thick" are just ways of sugarcoating you are an overweight bitch. They are just less abrasive ways to say fat.
There are still a few discriminating clubs out there that will suspend dancers for putting on too much weight or not hire fatties. My hat goes off to them. Maybe the reason so many clubs are closing is that there are not enough slim, athletic, or fit dancers to go around anymore. Fat women don't give me an erection and I will body shame them before I give them a nickel.
1. Processed foods are everywhere. If you are not raising your own livestock and gardening, then you are eating processed food to some extent.
2. It is cheaper and less time consuming to eat out than cook a meal from scratch at home.
3. There are too many sedentary options: streaming televison (Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, Youtube Red), addiction to social media, constant texting.
4. When the older (and fatter) Kardashians became idolized as a standard of beauty.
5. A good percentage of America is government dependent. Why work when the government will give you food stamps, healthcare, and housing for free? Once upon a time, welfare did not exist. You either got up and worked every day or starved.
6. Cars and gasoline are relatively cheap. Nobody walks anymore. Some new subdivisions don't even have sidewalks.
Now, what is worse is how American guys have raised the white flag and accepted fat women over the last decade or two. I have several acquaintances and coworkers who married chubby or downright fat women. Will they even be able to find her pussy hole in all of that blubber? Terms like "curvy" and "slim thick" are just ways of sugarcoating you are an overweight bitch. They are just less abrasive ways to say fat.
There are still a few discriminating clubs out there that will suspend dancers for putting on too much weight or not hire fatties. My hat goes off to them. Maybe the reason so many clubs are closing is that there are not enough slim, athletic, or fit dancers to go around anymore. Fat women don't give me an erection and I will body shame them before I give them a nickel.
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I agree, 110%!
1. I've always had a preference for women who looked like they finished meals. For many years, I thought that there were too many scrawny girls dancing.
2. That said, there's a difference between 'thick' and 'obese'. Though that difference is highly subjective.
3. I have noticed at my favorite club that the average BMI has gone up several points. Yet they're still doing good business. I'm not sure they'd be doing themselves any favors by booting out the thick dancers.
4. I don't think it's accurate to say that customers are universally martyring themselves or 'settling' by spending money on bigger dancers. There have always been guys who liked bigger girls, and tastes do change over time. Look at what was considered beautiful 100 or more years ago compared to now. The idea of beauty or sexy is malleable.
Ultimately, I'm not struggling to find what I like.
I've often assumed curvy/big-booty girls may now be more in-vogue, for lack of a better-word, due to hip-hop music being the prevalent style of music w/ young-people for the last 15+ years, where curves and big-booties are celebrated and admired.
When rock was the more popular style of music in the 80s and somewhat 90s, skinny bleached-blonds w/ flat-asses were the thing.
It just depends on taste - if one leans towards thin/small girls, then a girl w/ a few extra lbs is "fat".
A guy that is into large natural breasts and big curvy asses; is likely more tolerant of a few extra lbs if he's getting what he likes most (big tits; ass; and hips) - a guy for whom large breasts and asses are unimportant, or undesirable, a few extra lbs is not acceptable.
And there also seems to be a cultural component - Latinos and blacks seem to tilt towards liking women w/ meat in the right-places even if they are not "perfectly toned"; whereas the avg whiteguy can often LDK at the sight of an ironing-board w/ A-cups.
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I was gonna paste the same pic as CMI
For those into voluptuous women, she's just "meaty in the right places"
Yeah... I don't. That's possibly the least reliable metric.
"I guess the logic many women have in 2019 is if they are obese, but not morbidly obese, they can consider themselves average body type."
You're correct that dating sites (as well as SA) are a street guide to denial and wishful thinking. At the same time, there are also plenty of women on those sites who know they're huge, but they also know that if they select the "I'M HUGE" checkbox, then they won't show up in as many search results.
Anyway - I do agree it's easier, and perhaps more enjoyable, to fuck a skinny girl since there is easier more-direct access to the coochie w/ "less barriers" - it's just for me I really like the look and feel of a voluptuous well-endowed woman - I don't get much out of touching/feeling-up a petite-girl w/ petite-assets.
Cuz they don't need ur advice they still gettin customers.
Also, did you really just misspell 'ton'? It's three letters.
Now if your free time is relegated to walmart, malls, or fast food restaurants you are going to be surrounded by whales.
^that's exactly why I'm very careful with my words bc I'm a smart girl who knows the difference between meabings of words:)))). I didn't say fat men have to like fat women, but they they can't have cant have. A negative opinion about their weight lmao.
Business model means customer choose product. Complaining about fat stripper when there are other skinny girls is like complaining about Toyota when market offers Ferrari that u can afford
Complaining about fat women is irrelevant and , when business models (strip clubs) offers skinny girls too(MOST of the time..unless youre in exclusively thick club).
^this. EXACTLY this.
Sure they can. You may not like it, think it's fair, or agree. But that has no bearing on whether or not they can hold that opinion or personal preference. And, in a strip club they can endorse and fulfill that opinion via how they spend their money.
I know a French guy who doesn't like French cooking. He's allowed.
As white as I am, I'll never be that guy.
Nope, about as white as white can be. Unless you're getting your snark on at my expense, I'm not sure why you thought I was black.
Yeah - that's a bad-look both on females and males.
On the opposite spectrum - there are some naturally big-boned women that have a nice shape and are firm - some of them you feel their legs and they are like oak-trees w/ hard muscle - and they can have large D-cup+ breasts that are firm and shapely and stay-in-place w/o a bra - similarly there are some guys that are big-boned and may weigh a lot but have a good shape and have hard/firm muscle-tone.
That assumption led you astray. I do like tattooed women (depending on the tattoos), and I do have many tattoos myself.
Regardless, I'm a white guy.
In that case... 100% true and factual.
Regardless, I like dancers that have some meat on them.
It is a catch 22 for me. I am not visually attached to plus size dancers, but IME sex often feels better with chunky girls vs skinny ones. Not that there is a size related difference in tightness or depth, but maybe a since of fullness? And no bruised pubis afterwards.
"Anyone can do anything..that doesn't mean it makes logical sense.
I know a French guy who doesn't like French cooking. He's allowed."
^this was the analogy used to support your point.it is a bad analogy, because it inherently follows a different logical train of thought than the one used in my statement.
A French guy can talk shit about French cooking,, but that analogy is different than if a messy roommate complains about his/her roomate being messy .this analogy is more analogous to the logic behind my statement.
I wasnt even talking about u 25 omg why u feeling some type of way .
Errr... that's not true.
"That doesn't mean it makes logical sense."
We're talking about personal preference, which is not something that can be proven valid or invalid in court or require the approval of others. It is 100% subjective.
Neither do preferences or opinions mandate logic (or parity, for that matter). This is made evident by 90% of your posts. And 90% is my polite way of saying that 99.999%.
"A French guy can talk shit about French cooking, but that analogy is different than if a messy roommate complains about his/her roomate being messy. This analogy is more analogous to the logic behind my statement."
No. It's not. This is a strip club site (perhaps you forgot...).
A guy goes to a restaurant looking for food he enjoys. If he likes what he sees on the menu, he orders. If not, he goes to another restaurant with choices he likes. And once he's done with his meal, he pays and goes home. That's basically the same experience guys have at a strip club, with boobies substituting for a nice Caesar salad.
A messy roommate is a 24/7 living situation and that dynamic does not equate to what a guy looks for, likes, or dislikes when he walks into a strip club.
Also... you suck at debate.
I think there is a difference between an obese woman
https://www.instagram.com/p/BteedJlAoTU/…
And thick women that still carry it in s healthy way (slim waist, nice muscle mass under neath so they look “firm”
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt_jcyXhbPf/…
Obesity is of course not healthy.
But it really interesting how our culture began to tell men they should fine thin and sometimes curve-less women attractive when that really, from an evolutionary standpoint is not ideal. It’s not healthy for women to try to maintain low body fat as to reproduce they as better off to have a little extra body fat, and a slim waist with thick hips/butt and large breasts were a good sign of health and fertility. Again not to be confused with being so big that a woman is now unhealthy.
Pictures would help as I’m imagining you saying
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn9BeCShCc6/…
The point I’m making is (without photos) is that maybe in some ways the obesity epidemic (which is not good) is allowing some women who were otherwise unhealthy and too thin (because recent beauty culture said so) to feel ok gaining some weight and actually be as nature intended them to be, thicker but healthy.
BTW are you saying Kim Kardashian is fat?
I think my point is, is stead of assuming the skinny is the “right” standard of beauty maybe look at it as the skinny culture that came about when, the 60s?? was the problem and we are finally realizing that’s not attractive or healthy. Again not saying obese is ok either.
And fwiw I like my ladies slim waist and thick in all the right places.
No its not. There is something inherent missing in your analogy. The only underlying similarity between Your analogy and the situation of strip club customers is the fact that both the French guy and custies have preferences.
However, a distinction between your analogy and strip club situation (which my analogy compensates for) is that the customer in strip club situation has the shares the same characteristic (fatness) that he is complaining about.
The roomate example is relevant because the roomate also has a preference (cleanliness) like the strip club patron has a preference for hotness.
Even if u made ur analogy relevant by saying that the French guy himself sucks at cooking but goes to a restaurant to eat food that is nicer than he himself cooks..In the same way that PL GOES to strip club to find girls more attractive than himself , your analogy still fails to refute my point
This is because one of my points was even in a club were there are a few fat girls, there are still a significant number of skinny girls.as a result, while the French guy would have wasted his $ on bad food, the PL would not have had to spend $$ on a "bad stripper" in the first place because he could just pick a skinny girl to begin with.....
You can't tell me I suck at debate when I had to create my own analogy to compensate for your faulty one, and you also cannot tell me I suck at debate when I correct your analogy and show how it still fails to refute my point .LOLLLLL
This is because and is seeking out a roommate who If your analogy mentioned that the French guy himSince you did not mention in ur analogy customer sharing the same characteristic as that which he is complaining If in your analogy
Nicole should just drop the act and go dance.
Umm no...I'm going to graduate at the top of my class once I get there thanks.
they do sell chicken nuggets(or fries) at other cultural restaurants other than those that are French.they do it a lot in Asian and middle eastern restaurants. I'm sure you can find some French places where They do it too. They don't focus on it , but they still sell it. Seeing another customer order chicken nuggets mosf of the time doesn't take away from the plethora of Asian dishes that can be ordered lol...
I am.not thinking about it. I'm academically qualified for it lmao
Bye hater with unjustified comments lol.
None of that matters. Fat guys can complain about fat dancers. Again, it may not be fair, and you may not like it, but they can do it. You don't need to be a good cook to complain about food you think is bad (in a restaurant or out). And the restaurant analogy works more effectively because it describes a transitory situation where you're paying for a pleasurable experience, and the privilege leaving without having to take care of the dishes ... or anything else.
"The roomate example is relevant because the roomate also has a preference (cleanliness) like the strip club patron has a preference for hotness."
And the resemblance mostly ends there. But I will point out that messy people can also complain about other messy people. Again, probably not fair, and possibly not reasonable, but they're allowed. And if a messy guy has the funds, then he can hire a maid to ... clean his pipes. In much the same way that a customer pays a stripper to provide a quick service that he enjoys without doing much work himself (other than paying a fee).
See what sort of a gentleman I am? I fixed your analogy for you. You're welcome.
"Even if u made ur analogy relevant by saying that the French guy himself sucks at cooking but goes to a restaurant to eat food that is nicer than he himself cooks..In the same way that PL GOES to strip club to find girls more attractive than himself , your analogy still fails to refute my point"
I'm pretty sure you have no idea what your point actually is.
"This is because one of my points was even in a club were there are a few fat girls, there are still a significant number of skinny girls.as a result, while the French guy would have wasted his $ on bad food, the PL would not have had to spend $$ on a "bad stripper" in the first place because he could just pick a skinny girl to begin with....."
You don't understand how preference works. You're assuming that for a guy who likes skinny women, any skinny woman will do. When a person goes to a restaurant, they want to see a variety of dishes that they'll potentially enjoy. Similarly, when I guy goes to a strip club, he wants more than a few girls to choose from. Also, if we really want to bring this back on topic, Sinclair's original complaint is that the number of bigger dancers in clubs is increasing, and therefore, the types of strippers he likes to meet in strip clubs is decreasing. See? The restaurant analogy still holds up better.
"You can't tell me I suck at debate when I had to create my own analogy to compensate for your faulty one, and you also cannot tell me I suck at debate when I correct your analogy and show how it still fails to refute my point .LOLLLLL"
None of that actually happened. But if it helps you sleep tonight, then run with it.
"This is because and is seeking out a roommate who If your analogy mentioned that the French guy himSince you did not mention in ur analogy customer sharing the same characteristic as that which he is complaining If in your analogy"
You're actually rolling your face around on the keyboard now, aren't you?
Quick aside ... the original error upon which you launched this entire dumpster fire argument was assuming that the guys complaining about larger dancers in this thread are also large guys, which you can't know as a provable fact. Be careful, Nicole. That's the sort of fantastically inept and unfounded assumption that will cost you your seat on a federal bench.
So, are you going to author another even longer, less coherent post to mask the fact that you've entirely lost the plot here. Or, is this the point where you create an significantly shorter yet entirely crazy pants screed in ALL CAPS and post it 20 times as a sort of digital temper tantrum?
Have a good night, your honor.
It sucks when you go to a club and it's all skinny chicks with tiny-tits or fake-tits just bc the club equates beauty/desirability with being skinny as if that was rhe only option/form.
A club should hire most size girls unless it's an extreme like morbidly-obese or concentration-camp skinny. Hiring thick girls does not mean there won't be skinny girls.
Fun fact ... your typing is what I imagine it would sound like if Daffy the Duck fell down steep escalator.
SJG
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No I'm actually gonna have to comment tmrw cuz my phone is dead and I am out getting ice cream like a baby!!! LOL.
Umm youve never been out and ur ohone on low battery?
Smh at least wait till tmrw before u think I surrender .if I wanted to leave I would not say I'm coming back lmao...
Also happen to agree with him on his choice of women.
I personally believe making thicker bodies the “undesirable” in our society while idealizing thin flat women, was no accident in the history of repressing minorities, namely AA people. You don’t have to agree with me, that’s just my 2 cents.
THIN may have been in, but FAT's where it at!
With the chubby and fat girls it really blows my mind. I'll sit their thinking who in the world is interested in this girl? Who thinks this girl is a "fantasy"? And then sure enough some mexican dude will come up and make it rain on her...
Stop exaggerating.
"As far as tastes in women? I apprecite clubs being inundated with fat gitrls and girls with fake boobs becuase it makes me want to stay away"
You don't even understand my point.I was never advocating for a strip club to be significantly filled with fat women ?
"None of that matters. Fat guys can complain about fat dancers. Again, it may not be fair, and you may not like it, but they can do it. "
1) fat guys can't complain about fat dancers because fat girls don't take away from the plethora of skinny girls that are still available for them to choose from...in HIGH FREQUENCY.
"I'm pretty sure you have no idea what your point actually is. "
UMMMMM LOLOLOLOL. My point is that PL's have no business complaining about the increase in fatties because generally speaking , they do not interfere with the relatively wider selection of skinnier girls offered by the club.
Note: Lets be careful not to conflate increase in fatties with implying that there are am objectively high number of fatties. I believe original post was referring to increase in fatties ..which could mean going from 0-1, 2-3, 3-4 etc rather than 0-100.
You don't understand how preference works. You're assuming that for a guy who likes skinny women, any skinny woman will do. When a person goes to a restaurant, they want to see a variety of dishes that they'll potentially enjoy.
Umm no I was not assuming that.if anything, i was making my point while taking into consideration the variety aspect LMAO. I was taking that into consideration when I first commented on this thread, but I explicitly addressed this point in this particular comment.I'll copy and paste what I said so u don't have to scroll up.
Here is what I said : fat guys can't complain about fat dancers because fat girls don't take away from the plethora of skinny girls that are still available for them to choose from...in HIGH FREQUENCY.
Writing is fine . my previous comment and discussion posts where I speak by using facts rather than resorting to name calling, and making assumptions about the academic abilities of ppl based on their tuscl posts etc showcases just one aspect of my logical abilities.
Whether you are academically qualified by grades to be admitted to law school or not, your writing does not demonstrate you have what it takes to be a lawyer.
Oh. I'm sorry that I said I was academically qualified in response to your comment that asked if I was still thinking about a type of school(law school) that decided to admit or reject you solely based on your academic credentials.
Next time you don't wana hear me talk about school, then maybe you shouldn't make a comment directed at me that was about school to begin with !
Whether you are academically qualified by grades , your writing does not demonstrate you have what it takes to be a lawyer.
Oh yea? Damn. Hard to see how that would be true when the predominant , if not the only hiring criteria (unless u suck /have comnection) used by lawyers to hire law students is academic credential.
The acadmeic credential(exam performance ) is supposed to demonstrate the extent to which a student can think logically under pressure. You wouldn't kmow my abilities in this realm because ur opinion of me is based on my writing on an informal strip club forum from my phone when I can't even send proper, regular text messages .
Maybe you should know what employers look for in law students before hiring them as lawyers before making that comment lolol..
Well, since I’ve been a lawyer for over twenty years and have hired a number of them, I think I do know.
I am pretty sure that many, if not most, require a legal writing sample as part of the hiring criteria.
You're not fat.
Glad my club has variety of dancer (body) types. I prefer lapdancers that are small or medium. Tried a big buns gal once or twice. Nice, but didn't change my opinion
And....
What was the question?
Ok ..in terms of getting first job/foot in door, grades /school u went to still come first...everyone. Knows this..its kind of why top 10% or the top schools gets u interviews to the most elite firms..so on..etc
In terms of first job its pretty much just grades...if you're I'm top half of class you will find job assuming u go to decent school...but ur grade is based on how well you write..and my tuscl writing does not reflect my academic writing...sry that I'm not consistent with that but its true ..lol..
But I am not judgemental about their looks. And some fat is okay with me.
SJG
They are not looking at them as a person they would really know and engage with.
While I would be looking at another girl that I might like, not thinking the same way as them.
It isn't just looks which decides which girl I will go for. It is the entire persona.
SJG
(i’m such a hypocrite. because my six pack abs are still hiding behind a keg.)
i’m looking for my dream girl.
Ime most girls that bitch about skinny girls or "anorexic" women are usually super fat in the stomach.
Say what you will about changing trends. I feel like slim or mostly slim girls don't work as hard for the money as the bigger girls. Sure a girl can get hired 30 pounds overweight these days, but she will have to put up with more difficult and grabbier/cheaper customers that want her to "work for it".
Anyway not judging body types- but in this biz it pays to look at least halfway in shape and gives you access to easier/better clientele. Just from constantly observing.
I would agree here in Texas chubby girls get the grabbyer Mexican customers.
However, when it comes to pay for play it is all about what I want physically so I look for my preferred body type for those transactions.
Healthy food is expensive, and they put preservatives and unhealthy shit into everything to increase shelf life hence profitability....since you can sell it longer. And of course since the gov is loyal to private sector and corporate interests they allow it.