Dayshift - Where do you find the time and why bother?
Nixur68
Texas
What’s up with the sudden increase in dayshift clubbing? I’ve got a normal Monday-Friday job so it’s not like I could go and even if I could why would you? I’d expect the night shift to have the best quality and quantity.
Or am I missing something completely?
Or am I missing something completely?
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It depends on the club and what you're looking for. I'd never go to Follies at night, but I can't see myself going to any South Florida clubs during the day. In what has pretty much become my home club up here, the rosters are completely different between day and night so if I have a chance I'll go on dayshift because it's almost like being in a different club.
As for time, aside from weekends, if you're a white collar worker/manager/owner you can always sneak in an hour or so now and then. If you're punching a clock, this is probably the wrong hobby for you anyway.
Yes, night shift has some of the bets looking dancers. But not every hottie wants to work from 6pm to 2am, especially if they have a family. I've known literally hundreds of top tier dancers who drop their kids off at school, then workout, then come to the club for a few hours, then pick their kid up again. Nighttime crowds make it harder to find and keep a dancer you want to get dances from, and nighttime bouncers/floaters usually keep the girls on a much shorter leash with respect to mileage as well. And, if you're not into a bunch drunken pseudo-alpha males getting absolutely shit-faced while you're trying to get your lap on, then day shift is definitely preferable.
I could go on, but you get the point (I hope).
CP
Maybe the Southern US is different? Most of my time is spent in Dallas and the Midwest.
There's a lot of jobs out there that don't have a 9-to-5 dynamic, ranging from the self employed to hospitality to hospitals to manufacturing. Most clubs aren't jam packed during the day, but there's enough business to keep the doors open and dancers taking shifts.
Day shift girls don't go as glam as the night shift girls, if you are into that. They don't wear as much make up, wigs, extravagant outfits, or glitter. It just doesn't go over as well during the day. Usually bra and panties, or a thong bikini, and light makeup.
I'd say day shift usually has a couple of the most popular girls in the club, a bunch of new girls, and some night girls there for an extra shift, or on a day rotation.
I am busy as shit at work during the day, at time so busy I am eating my lunch while driving. Even if I had enough time in the day to dayshift club I’d feel too guilty as working hard in engrained into my brain. I have dayshifted before and it’s just not for me. I like the glam, the party atmosphere that the night brings. What I don’t like about the night shift is it’s much more crowded, usually harder to get a dancers attention and dayshift girls are usually more relaxed and friendly than nightshift girls.
Missing a lot, completely :) Of course, it depends on what you value.
Nightshift: For a party atmosphere, more girls in the lineup (usually), and a higher percentage of higher girls. Along with all that, you typically get a higher customer-to-dancer ratio, higher hustle, less mileage or time for the money, and a bouncer staff that will usually be relatively more strict.
Dayshift: Fewer patrons means it's a buyer's rather than a seller's market, which means the same amount of money buys you far more time or mileage (to put this in perspective: I usually hang out drinking with a hot dayshift girl for an HOUR before we do our first VIP dance), far lower hustle, bouncers that are often less strict. You do often have a lower percentage of hot girls, but that doesn't mean there aren't any, just fewer ... but if you do find a hot girl, you can hang out with her as long as you want, whereas a nightshift girl will be relieving you of your money as quickly as possible and then moving on.
You can probably tell from the above, that I think nightshift sucks, it's a low-value sausagefest, I don't care if there's relatively more hot girls if the value is so much lower. All I need on dayshift is one hot girl, she'll hang out with me as long as I want, I pay far less $ for more mileage and more leniency from the bouncers.
Some clubs are utterly dead during most day shifts and often won't run stage (if they even have any dancers) until around 7pm even if they're open by noon. Those clubs' Sunday - Wednesday night shift can be like the day shifts at the clubs Subraman is talking about.
Among the dead day shift clubs, if there are any dancers at all, it can sometimes be a better value on day shift, but not always. The dancer always determines the upper range of mileage. The club might be more lenient during the day, but individual dancers might not be.
At clubs where nights are slow, the same advantages expected on day shift tend to apply at night. In those instances, it becomes more of a matter of Sunday-Wednesday vs. the weekend rather than day shift vs. night shift.
FWIW, some clubs don't have bouncers on slow shifts whether it's day or night. It's more of a thing where if the bartender or DJ hears someone scream, they'll go over and help and/or call the cops. Since the day shift customers at those clubs tend to be retirees or otherwise peaceful older guys, I don't think it's generally a problem. 2PMers aren't a thing as far as I can tell.
During my first 10-years of PLdom I rarely visited on dayshift and like you it was odd to me to SC on dayshift (that's something one did at night and particularly weekend (Fr/Sat) eves).
Many of the vets on TUSCL talked about preferring dayshift and I finally tried it and now I prefer it and it's about 80 to 90% of my SCing - for me dancer-treatment/mileage trumps eye-candy and I often get the former much more consistently on dayshift - nightshift is often more about the hustle and dancers often have plenty of targets to choose from so IMO QoS goes down - IME/IMO more sharks on nightshift b/c competition is more-fierce (lots of dancers) plus lots of custies/targets to choose from means a dancer can jump custy to custy - dayshift dancers are ofte more experienced and often better-know how to treat a custy; whereas nightshift can often have stuck-up younguns that think their pussy is made of gold.
Some areas have dayshifts perhaps not worth going to but some areas have pretty-good dayshifts.
I used to live in Dallas and found the dayshift scene a bit weak but then again I did not look into dayshift too-much - Bucks in Forth Worth and Baby Dolls Dallas both have pretty-good dayshifts - PT's also I believe.
Dayshifts often last till 7 or 8 pm - so it's not super-impossible to stop in the late-afternoon unless one has a certain type of job - dayshift it's not for everyone but does not mean it's not worth trying it out.
Some of the clubs in my area are actually pretty good for nightshift. I've been to a few where the atmosphere is laid back, the crowd is a good mix of younger and older customers, and the dancers will sit with you and chat for a while before asking for dances or VIP.
Nightshifts have much larger, often much younger, and rowdier crowds; not too-mention groups of guys where one of them may be tempted to show-off for his buds and cause a scene/trouble in the club, thus security needs to keep a tighter leash - dayshifts are often quiet and usually an older crowd of lone-wolfs
Chili Palmer and Subraman pretty much sum things up.
Busy night shifts are like classic hot rods. The bodies are a thing of beauty and they can get you revved up pretty quickly but the mileage is low by most standards.
Slow day shifts are like a modern hybrid. Their bodies may be plain, and it will take longer to work you up to speed, but the mileage is so incredible you will forget all about the compromises you made regarding looks.
@Nixur68 "What’s the transition time for most clubs? 8-9PM?"
I've found that the attractive night shift girls usually come in around 10PM, though sometimes they'll come in earlier. Most girls that will be working that night will be there by 11PM.
Those rare times I do have a nightshift CF, very often I've met them late at night, but once we connect, I ask her to come in at 7pm when night shifts starts. At that time, as pointed out by chessmaster, the nightshift crowd isn't there yet. So she comes in at 7pm just for me, I get three pseudo-dayshift-slow hours with her until 10pm, and then I book. Still not as good as a real dayshift, because nightshift bouncers are nightshift bouncers, and the place is always more buttoned down at night, but talking a nightshift girl into coming in at the beginning of the shift is at least tolerable for me
In Providence at the Foxy Lady, there's a "Leggs n' Eggs" shift on Fridays from 6AM to 11:30AM. I've never been, but I've always been curious.
Where are your priorities?
Do you not go to the dentist or do you have those visits on the night shift?
The day shift has worked for me as well. When I club alone, the day shift works well. I prefer to stop in after work and stay an hour or two, to take the edge off before heading home. If I'm clubbing with friends, then it would be to enjoy the party atmosphere at night.
However, the day shift must be evaluated on a club by club basis. Certain clubs have a good line up during the day, and the relaxed vibe is enjoyable. Some clubs are simply dead during the day shift, and the vibe can almost be depressing.
All you guys go on night shift. We don’t want all of you PL’s coming in during the day and taking up the time of our MILFs. ;)
Clubs are less likely to confront out-of-control, liquored up patrons at 2:30 in the afternoon, so they hire fewer bouncers. Many dayshift clubs have 1 bouncer and he is busy working the door. As a result, dancers are less supervised resulting in a better customer experience. Also, dancers are less likely to be drunk or drugged up -- also often resulting in a different experience than night shift. Further, I have never heard of LE raiding a strip club in the afternoon.
Either way, clubs open for 14 hours, from noon until 2:00 am provide the best of both worlds.
Many of us can accomplish dayshift visits: white collar, retired, delivery, salesmen, customer service, installation, repairmen, self employed all can squeeze in an hour here or there.
Dayshift was an odd value thing. That was where I learned (perfected) the art of talking to strippers and in some cases paying for convo (I know, anathema on Tuscl!!). That was mostly because the money went too quickly when I bought dancers, versus just tipping less $ for convo (longer than 20 minutes). If I'd had money for dances, I would have went that route, obviously.
I'd agree with the consensus on the different vibe of dayshift, less money needed, more 1-on-1 attention, etc. All pluses.
I'd do dayshift these days except a few constraints work against it. Can't afford the dentist so that excuse won't work. Really clubbing isn't enough of a priority nor do I have the latitude at work to skip out. Fri & Sat nights are dead times in my schedule so it makes sense to use that time instead. It's just at my point in my life the priority needs to be my career (and earning potention) so skipping out doesn't (yet) make sense. Maybe sometime. But for now, it's nose down, work hard.
Nights it is.
It's not sudden.
"I’ve got a normal Monday-Friday job so it’s not like I could go"
Sorry.
"and even if I could why would you?"
Because I can.
"I’d expect the night shift to have the best quality and quantity."
I used to think that, too. A lot of the time it's true, depending on what you're looking for. In some places you get the reverse because the money shows up during the day. Or sometimes a girl who could easily do night shift and prime time decides she prefers dayshift or will show up for an appointment.
"Or am I missing something completely?"
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But I feel ... weird and kinda wrong doing dayshift in other circumstances. During the day, I feel like I should be, you know, working. Even if I get a day off and it's just me. At worst, resting. Doing something productive. Not clubbing.
I do very much believe some of the best ladies work during the day. And yes, more mileage and personal time sounds awesome. But I feel like it's just not the time of day to be doing that stuff.
Also, yeah, I very much skew glam, and I don't mind the music too much. So night plays to that as well.
Each has their pros and cons, I guess. But I skew night.
Then, I stopped in on a Friday day shift, and it was less of a party atmosphere - a different set of girls (still mostly hot) - and the time spent in VIP was quite a bit cheaper - and there were basically no limits. The dancer had my cock out - and a condom on me - in about a second - and the rest is history...
1) Lunch where places have food or if someone I have known for years wants to go to eat, talk,and take in the view......NYC comes to mind but any large city where I travel for work this could happen. Last time was not so good if you recall my comments
2) Right after work--Happy hour with someone I know and trust or a club is near the hotel I am staying when out of town. From my own limited experience this is the worst time you want to go if you are looking for the most variety of dancers. However if you do find a dancer you know and she is working extra hours to pick up money it works out well
3) After 9 PM--till Midnight weekdays and Fridays---- for the occasion when I am traveling or need to stay over for the weekend. Where I drop the most money, where the best selection of dancers can be found the majority of the time, and where the hustle is at it's peak.
I don't worry about how many guys are in the club or how packed it is. If I want to get a girls attention there are a handful of ways to do it and if she is not interested then chances are it wasn't meant to be ......
Exceptions from my limited POV are Vegas and Dallas where going out before 11 PM doesn't make sense---the clubs are just waking up in those two cities at 11.