SJG talks about "toda la noche" Escorts offer it in their listings (at a high price, thou$and$) I am sure strippers OTCing offer it too.
Why though?
It does not make sense to pay thousands to have a warm body sleeping next to you for 8 hours.
Are you all fucking and sleeping through out the night to get your money's worth?
Those who have done it. Chime in please.
The benefits I see are not sleeping alone for a change, if you are single, and having sex the next morning too.
What I've found is if you are staying at a nice hotel, sometimes the women will stay overnight without charging a ton more, just because they want to hang out at the hotel longer, since it's like a vacation. Not always, but sometimes.
What I also recently learned is that it's a good idea to know the girl pretty well before doing an overnight. Even if they don't steal anything, they could still cause problems by messing up the hotel room, if they are too drunk or high.
I agree with the points TravelingG made. Especially the being single sleeping point. Not too many occasions under my belt just yet, but despite the allure of wanting the overnight for woman to hold, rub on, sex middle of the night, and next morning, I tend to sleep uneasy because it's hard to not put anything past these strippers.
You can fuck her while she's asleep
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Yeah mikey I was being facetious again
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Escorts will charge extra for stating all night. Many dancer don't. Besides not being rushed at night, morning sex is common. Breakfast with a hot babe is nice.
Well the allure for the sleepy time rapist is clear. What a creep that dude is.
I think the allure for me is not being rushed.
I've has strippers stay overnight before and they didn't charge extra. Just take them to Bob Evans the next morning and send them on there way.
I've has strippers stay overnight before and they didn't charge extra. Just take them to Bob Evans the next morning and send them on there way.
Guys. Guys. You guys are forgetting the most important part. Being able to stay up all night... and just talk. :)
But real talk. My girls don't take dumps, fart, nor have morning breath (ok maybe this part's not real :) but it enhances the GFE, multiple sex romps, and wake up together for joint shower and breakfast. I've yet to do it and would depend on how much more to consider it worthwhile.
I have never paid for an overnight stay as I'm poor, but I love having a bed mate. When our spouses are out of time, my g/f and I frequently arrange an over nighter.
I've never really wanted/asked strippers to stay the night, and for a long time I refused their requests to stay the night. I've recently let two stay over and have overall enjoyed it. The first one I let stay woke me up with a blowjob and followed that up with some pancakes, did the dishes, and then fucked me some more. The second one stayed on a weeknight, so we didn't have all morning to fool around, but she made a run to Starbucks for coffee and sandwiches on her dime before we both left. I know this wasn't the question, but strippers have asked me to stay the night for a variety of reasons. Some, maybe most, are likely bullshit, but a few that I can recall are:
My house is the opposite direction from the club than hers, so now the drive home is long and she'd rather just go to back to work tomorrow than go home first (this is the most common one I hear)
She's tired/drunk and doesn't feel safe driving/ubering home
She doesn't want to go home and deal with her BF and/or roommates, often times this one is kinda a desire to actually sleep, vs fuck the BF or party all night with the roomies.
She wants to make use of the amenities, pool, bathtub, etc
I won't list the ones that were complementary to me, since I think we can all agree they were probably just bullshit covers for not wanting to go home or weak attempts at getting a better tip.
Overnight stays but hobbyist friend has had them for $300 overnight at his house. He usually gets them for regular sessions for $100 - $150.
He had one and her sister show up one time at 2am on his doorstep and had them all nite and next day $60 each. If providers legal in USA like Brazil pop wb about $60.
If u keep getting calls from OTC gals try get pop down.
Correction - pop in Brazil $25. No I don't care about over nighters w strippers or providers.
As with some of the guys above: I'd never pay $$$ for an overnight. The advantage of OTCing with strippers is their lack of professionalism. Admittedly, that lack of professionalism is a double-edged sword, but in this particular case, where an escort charges for every second of her time, it's very common that strippers just charge for the sex, and any other time spent is "free". I have NEVER paid a dime extra for an overnight with a stripper.
The other key point here, when it comes to strippers is that for me, I like my OTC strippers. Some guys stay emotionally detached, and just use their OTC strippers as a warm hole, and I respect that, whatever works for you. For me, I genuinely like my OTC strippers, and I find that affection makes the sex even better. So, I have no interest in overnights with an escort even if I could afford it, since I can't imagine spending enough time with an escort to develop any feelings either way about her. Overnights are only interesting with someone I like.
So, the advantage of overnights:
For an overnight stay you have to be in love with a stripper like JS69 to make it work. If she's just a cum dumpster, then I can see where most guys don't see the point of having an overnighter.
The only options are in live or cum dumpster? There is no middle ground? No other options?
I learned something today.
lol ... I imagine shailynn was using some hyperbole. But I'd say, I'm not remotely interested in overnights with a girl unless I like her, have fun with her, and am incredibly attracted to her.
Twice for me, with an SB, at my house, with my wife out of town. Sex puts me to sleep, and I love the feeling of falling asleep with my arms around her.
I agree with shailynn
An occassional overnighter can be great fun with a girl you know and like. I've only done it with ones I've known for years. Nothing's rushed, getting to know each other better is fun, and I'm good for about three fucks. But it's not worth a lot extra, and I usually give her just the one fuck rate. I don't get a good night's sleep.
It isn't worth it if one has to pay an exorbitant amount of money. But often this will not be the case. I know that in Thailand it is common. I've heard of people retaining one of their girls for as long as 5 days and nights.
On Escorts of Mexico it says that compared with Tijuana, in Mexicali it is done more slow and personal. I interpret this as meaning more Toda La Noche's, like in Thailand.
And then in TJ it is known that it is common, and not unreasonably priced. The street girls will do it, but you have to get to them real late at night. I would not do this until I knew the girl and could just make an appointment with her.
But obviously in the hotels over the HK Bar and Club Tropical, they are set up for it. Jacuzzi's, everything. And guys have posted about the money. Quite reasonable.
The benefits, well its more rounds, slower rounds, more DATY and DFK + FIV, and more time to talk. In my experience girls may not say it, but they want to be bothered during the middle of the night, and in the morning too. And after a couple of rounds, both parties are more softened up for talking. There is something about just going to the point of exhaustion with her. It changes both parties. It makes the experience into something both parties will remember and want to repeat.
You also need to work into this feeding her, if you are going to keep her with you for that long.
It becomes a more civilian like experience, like she is your mistress instead of you hooker. Easier just to fall asleep with her, than to send her off or have to drive her home.
For myself, I would not do it unless I was planning on seeing the same girl again regularly by appointment. And then doing that with her for the first time would be an excellent way of communicating that intent to her.
In the book for Born on the 4th of July, Ron Kovick writes about a really tender toda la noche in a rural Mexican brothel.
The girl has got to sleep somewhere and sometime, and so just like eating, she can do it with you without needing to charge lots of money. That HK Bar, running around the clock and servicing people who come into the airport for other time zones, is a perfect set up for it.
And another thing, if you send her off, then you have to sleep alone. And for people like business travelers who have Warm Ports established, semi-pros, the overnighters are how you keep her happy and keep the relationship going. The money helps her pay her bills and it is compensation for not being there at her beck and call everyday.
You do your first toda la noche with her and, at least in my opinion, it will never again be strictly P4P.
SJG
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You won't need a baby sitter for your kids. :)
If there is a connection w/ the dancer where she actually enjoys being w/ you rather than having to be w/ you ($$$) then I can see it being worthwhile - but for me personally I'm used to sleeping alone and I toss and turn a lot so I rather sleep by myself and get a good night sleep - I would not mind her sleeping over in a separate bed once we are ready to go to sleep that way we can be together in the morning, take a shower together, maybe some a.m. sex; and have some breakfast.
Her scent on your pillow is priceless
^^^^^^ very true.
and, "If there is a connection w/ the dancer where she actually enjoys being w/ you ..." Yes of course. That's what preliminary front room GFE is for, and also maybe taking a street girl to lunch. Or in the HK Bar, doing a girl once in the VIP room, then taking her to eat, and then to the hotel room. And then just exchanging contact info to see her by appointment. And this is also why it helps if you select the girl yourself, instead of letting he pick you. She will always remember which way it was.
SJG
"connection w/ the dancer where she actually enjoys being w/ you rather than having to be w/ you ($$$) "
I don't engage in intimate acts with any girl until this has been clearly demonstrated. Money is just a show of respect and recognition of the fact that she would not have been able to be there available for me unless she was getting money. But money is never something used to try and persuade her to do anything she would not be otherwise perfectly happy to do.
SJG
This subject is currently much on my mind, as I have been cultivating a favorite stripper (and she me) ever since we met in early April for precisely the "toda la noche" experience. It finally happened a few nights ago! I checked into a motel near her apartment, picked her up and took her to a very nice Japanese hibachi-style restaurant and then to my room, where we spent a wonderful night together, including engaging in 138. (Hint: Factor it.) We ended this 16-hour date with a fine brunch the next day and promises of future such pleasures, probably at her place. I expect to write this up as an article soon -- stay tuned.
I agree with others who stated that they enjoy the intimacy and the unrushed nature of an overnight date, as long as they really like the girl and want to spend many hours with her and wake up with her. There's plenty of time to dine, go to a movie, go clubbing, talk for hours, and still enjoy multiple rounds of adult fun. If you object to insignificant details like morning breath, then by the same reasoning you should also avoid dining with a beautiful woman because she might burp or have spinach in her teeth. Sheesh! In any case, in the morning I simply brushed my teeth and did a quick touch-up and asked that she do the same. Done! -- fresh as two daisies.
I like this line from Subraman: "Cuddling all night -- for those of you, like me, who are a little bit faggy and like this stuff." Yep, me too!
If you already know the girl well enough from hanging out ITC that you are sure you will enjoy her company for many hours, I strongly recommend "toda la noche". As for cost, I simply paid her what I would have paid for two 30-minute VIP rooms ITC -- $400 total -- and she was delighted.
I've spent the night with are DS I and II on trips, and I've spent the night with DS I when she got off work at around 3 am. In all of those situations spending the night was a practical necessity. In other situations, I see no purpose in having the stripper spend the night unless you want to fuck her when she wakes up.
"... I see no purpose in having the stripper spend the night unless you want to fuck her when she wakes up ..."
And many women have the gall to say most-guys are not romantic
:)
Very nice MrDeuce. Looking forward to the article.
The morning breath thing was a joke, lol
I would love to spend the night with my CF but she would laugh in my face if I offered $400. She can make that in a couple of hours at the club.
Hey Bavarian aren't you the guy who pays 400 for three dances ha. Just busting your chops. I'm probably much worse :)
The last time I spent the night with DC I came 6 times between fucking and BJs.
I'd definitely feel rushed in a 30 minute session. Being able to pop a bunch of times in different positions would be a selling point for me.
On the rare occasions I've request her to stay I expect to pay extra. I offer most nights and get a high percentage of acceptance. I don't pay extra for these nights.
As for how much she can make at the in a few hours being a factor. I am always surprised at how cheap OTC is compared to a half hour in the VIP, Many of these women don't seem to realize that they could make more by working an extra hour or two at the club.
Thanks, Bavarian! I can't believe my luck -- she's 30ish, 5' 1", 100 lb (i.e. a spinner, not usually my type), very cute, blonde, from a good family and with a bachelor's degree -- and she does a great imitation of being crazy about me :) I know there's a certain amount of SS involved, but I have bought a lot of VIP dances from her. In the next couple of weeks I'll try to write articles about this very successful sleepover and about a few earlier less successful attempts.
"... Many of these women don't seem to realize that they could make more by working an extra hour or two at the club ..."
IDK - working an extra hour or two is no guarantee they will get an extra VIP or 2 out of it - whereas OTC is sure-$$$ and also can be seen as extra $$$ they can earn outside their normal shift.
The allure to SJG is being able to rape them in their sleep
Well it can be fun to have a dancer you like sleeping with you so you can fuck her again before check out time. If she didn't stop by until 5am and neither of you slept any, getting a few hours of sleep is better than none. The only time factor for me was getting out before check out time. I didn't want to pay to stay another night.
The "allure" is to fuck something other than your pillow
:)
K-->" I am always surprised at how cheap OTC is "
I agree with that
Papi_Chulo-->"IDK - working an extra hour or two is no guarantee they will get an extra VIP or 2 out of it - whereas OTC is sure-$$$ "
And I agree with that too. I think we as customers would be surprised by how variable the pay at the club can be, and how much a sure thing can be worth. That said, I also think the SW-ified view that the strippers view every customer exactly as every other customer is typical SW fantasyland, and in fact it is absolutely my experience that making less money with a respectful likeable customer can often be preferable to making a bit more money but putting up with strip club management, the other girls, and strip club customers (we here on tuscl are awesome, of course, but strip club customers have a reputation as worst and most disrespectful in the sex industry). Especially a girl who is fatigued, and tired of putting up with shit from all quarters, you can imagine guaranteed money with a guy who she likes (or at least dislikes less than most customers) and who treats her with respect can sound awfully good.
One of my ATFs, she was one of the better earners on her dayshift (so figure usually $300-$500, but less on slow days), but used to ask me to buy her out for $200. She was one of many strippers whose actions can only be explained by "sometimes it's better to make less money with a favored customer, than make more money and put up with bullshit". That girl took far less money for OTC than she'd make on a shift, and at her no extras club, she didn't fuck anyone, suck anyone, get anyone sticking their finger in her asshole, put on her hands and knees and spanked cherry red, and any other number of things which she most assuredly got every time she OTCed with me.
I think anyone who has been SW-ified will underestimate the value of a good customer, overestimate how much the girls are not even remotely perfect economic actors, and have a good idea of how much crap the girls put up with from power tripping management, douchebag djs and bouncers, cunty girls, and asshole customers.
^^^ True dat. My overnight companion often makes more than $400 on an afternoon shift (12-7) at the club but, for that same amount, chooses (this time, anyway) to spend 14 hours with a favorite customer who is respectful to her and treats her to two great meals and two excellent orgasms :)
Dancers like Juice so much that he gets overnight OTC for $49.99
About 30 years ago I stayed overnight at a civvies' apartment. We were snorting coke and we're both horny as hell. We fucked and sucked for an hour and a 1/2, then showered together. We sat and talked till about 2:00 am and went to bed. At 4:00 I awoke to her sucking my dick and it was memorable. I was 40 and she was 29 and gorgeous. I woke up at 8:00 and she had breakfast ready and it made for a great night. She's now 59 and waiting for a liver transplant. Fast forward 28 years and my ATF was charging $500 an hour , $100 for 3 hours, and $1500 for overnight which I tried once. I woke up at 4:00 to piss and she was in the living room of the suite I'd rented, sleeping on the couch with Kleenex stuffed in her ears bitching about my snoring. It was less than romantic and not worth the money. Our trips together were a mixed bag. I wasn't paying, but most nights were nothing special. In Vegas I rented a two bedroom suite and frankly the action was much better. Another time I brought her for surgery for breast enhancement and also rented a 2 bedroom suite. She had to get up and walk every two hours, and I helped her shower and change her bandages. I was the last to see and suck on her natural breasts and the first to see her new ones. I took a photo of her new tits when the bandages came off and the height was intimate but far from erotic. She smoked in the non-smoking $300 suite and trashed the bathroom and it was a task to get her out and back home 100 miles so I couldn't clean the place up and got hit with a $300 fine for the smoking. Usually if she smokes in a non-smoking room, I'll spray it down with air freshener and leave the housekeeper a $10 tip and haven't been fined since.
^^^^^^ Your ATF rubs me the wrong way.
SJG
My two SBs live out of town. Closest is 3 hrs away, the other is 6 hrs away, so overnights are routine. When I meet up with them, I enjoy the relaxed pace. Typically, I try to arrive in their area before 6pm and check into a decent hotel. The mid-range suite hotels are my favorite. SBs like the extra play space. If we meet at the hotel before dinner, we avoid a full make out, but do get things rolling with some DFK.
During dinner, I like sitting side-by-side with my SB to enjoy sensuous leg touching, HOP and smooches. Most visits we head straight to the hotel after the meal for playtime, but occasionally we'll hit a dance or strip club.
Back at the room, I like to kick things off with a thoughtful, inexpensive gift. Women love gifts. People love gifts. LOL! The Law of Reciprocity kicks in, and I'm set to have her return the love with her whole self. We fuck for a few hours, get a good night's sleep, then wake early and fuck some more. SB#1 provides a complete PSE, a real freak! It's like shooting a gonzo porno. SB#2 is a bit more conservative, but delivers very satisfying GFE.
While I'm a big fan of overnight OTC, I've learned the hard way to only do it after building trust and a relationship. Tried end of shift OTC overnights with dancers I didn't know well. The hookups were all terrible experiences.
A very lonely SAP gets to snuggle with a hottie for the night and get the feeling of night time romantic endeavors even if the feeling isn't mutual
Not to mention dealing with her farts while she sleeps, morning breath and hearing her take a dump in the morning, LOL.