Strippers and school
Clackport
Washington
I had this fuckbuddy relationship with this stripper for some months. She recently started school for her MBA, and now she's not returning my texts (probably too busy, she also has a full time job). It was fun while it lasted.
Me and a former strip club manager (or bouncer I forget) were talking and he said he's only ever known of one stripper that actually graduated college.
A lot of strippers say they're in school, but of course the vast majority are lying. If they're in school, they're maybe taking one class. I only know of three strippers that actually graduated from college.
How many strippers do you know that actually graduated from college?
Me and a former strip club manager (or bouncer I forget) were talking and he said he's only ever known of one stripper that actually graduated college.
A lot of strippers say they're in school, but of course the vast majority are lying. If they're in school, they're maybe taking one class. I only know of three strippers that actually graduated from college.
How many strippers do you know that actually graduated from college?
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On the other hand, as we all know, the typical student/stripper has taken a few community college classes in nursing and is now sporadically attending cosmetology school. All too often she's still working on that cosmetology license as she is closing in on 40.
I know zero that actually have a degree, but I know 100s that are "in school" or "taking a break from school" or are "going back to school soon."
I work with girls at my current club who have bachelor's degrees, one just quit to work on her master's I believe. I've worked with numerous girls who already held advanced degrees but made so much money dancing they didn't have to use their degrees.
Besides internships for experience, I don't plan on quitting dancing and using the degrees I'm going for until I'm 30. I want to enjoy my 20s and travel the world while I'm still young and NOT have a 9-5 with limited vacation time.
I knew of another one from Sunnyvale who had I think an MBA. She was manager of accounts payable or receivable in a high tech start up. She wanted to be CFO for a start up.
Another probably did not have a college degree, but she was Human Resources Manager for a computer gaming company. Another, black, was a bank loan officer. Another had been secretary for a Catholic church, but that did not pay very much.
All of these girls saw me as a possible next Significant Other.
Another one at the Pink Poodle, nude w/ no alcohol, I got to help study for her final exam in her San Jose State US History class, there in the Pink P of course.
Another was going to UC Santa Cruz, and another to San Jose State but she would throw people off by saying it was the Jesuit Santa Clara University.
That our local clubs are such soft core places, no touching, is probably the a big factor in this.
About the fuckbuddy who no longer returns your texts, she probably now thinks that she is better than you. Sorry to say that, but that is how women are, and this is why the guys who frequent strip clubs are referred to as PL's.
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SJG
Of my current regulars, all but one is a college student. Two of these girls work very hard as a student and take it very seriously. These two have ambitious goals that they are working towards, but their goals are realistic. I believe both will very likely be a success. That means unfortunately that both will stop stripping and stop playing with me when they graduate.
Nevertheless, my distinct impression is that most strippers don't take school very seriously and many drop out or do nothing with it after they graduate. Being a single mom is one of the biggest factors that leads them to drop out and focus on stripping.
Again, the softer core local clubs are a factor in this.
SJG
Muddy Waters
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This is also why I have found that it is the non-White dancers who are less likely to be complete nut cases and shit heads. The non-White dancers know that life is hard and unfair, and that they have been victimized.
Far too many of the White dancers do not understand this, they do not understand that they are survivors of abuse and unfairness, and so they adopt a tune out Alcohol / Drugs / Recovery / Born Again approach to living.
SJG
Voodoo Child
https://youtu.be/dIhVJnYaRX4?t=51m52s
Now, as a customer, I only know of 1 that I'm positive is a real grad student and 2 more that I know are in real 4-year universities. I think a lot of them attend vocational schools or questionable for-profit universities though. Graduation rates in those joints are horrible, hiring rates for graduates are probably worse. I think a lot of them start stripping to pay for those schools and by the time they figure out they're bullshit they're in debt and have a bad perception of higher education.
I think it really depends on the age group you're targeting. There's probably a lot more 19yr old strippers taking classes than 25yr olds. By 23 or so, I'd think they've either decided to get serious about school and their prospects after it by getting a real job or they've decided to fuck it and keep telling PL's at the club they're stripping their way through college to get better tips.
But also at the Sunnyvale Hip Hugger the management told me that at their club the girls tended to "not be just strippers." This was true of the majority of the girls. Bank loan officer, physical fitness teacher, store clerk and pro body builder, telephone receptionist for high tech firm who returned to dancing because company left town, bank software applications support, nursing school student. The reason for this was how soft core the club was was, bikini and no touching.
It was a minority who to me came across as committed to earning their living via OTC.
So it is not just the age of the girls, it is also the sort of a club it is, and these two things connect.
In San Francisco you will find 18yo girls who are ideologically committed to sex, so they do the most that their club allows and follow that up with OTC, and they make money. But money is not their only motivation, it is just their own radical views. Sometimes these girls would end up in Sunnyvale, doing their best to promote OTC. They are a trip.
But what I would classify as the hardest core dancers were in the underground table dancing shows in the Mexican Bars, and in George's Rock'n Robin.
Of course it was related to what realistic employment chances the women had, and that tied strongly to college degree status. These women were earning a living. They enjoy what they do, and this is why the ones group I call Beloved Latina Escorts were so popular. But it was still economics and racism which set up the parameters of their lives. They had only limited options in conventional employment.
At George's Rock'n Robin, the women were on stage and $1 went very far as they did not get much. They were there to set up OTC's. Otherwise they would not bother being there. Their realistic options in life were not that great. They did not have the looks anymore to dance in the advertised clubs, only in this underground.
SJG
Strippers: "yay I'm in college and stripping making hella money, partying all night and drinking while making money." 8am class next day "oh fuck that shit I'm not going to that." End of semester "sorry you've been kicked out of school for bad grades." Stripper sez "well looks like I'm just a stripper now."
I think that's the cycle, very hard to maintain both those lifestyles I would think.
Legitimate students love to talk about how much homework and studying they have to do.
A lot of times if they do finish a degree they quit stripping. Especially since it's hard to make money if you're over 25 and don't do extras.
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"A lot of times if they do finish a degree they quit stripping. Especially since it's hard to make money if you're over 25 and don't do extras."
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The ones who are ideologically committed to sex are the really radical ones. You find them in San Francisco, 18yo, doing everything they can, because they want to. Money is more just a way to regulate the demand level. These girls are a trip, but they are atypical. They are part of why San Francisco is so special.
SJG
We had one here about 1 1/2 years ago, in the DC and East Coast area. She was a sociology grad student and she posted an article. And she did not do 'extras'. She was just getting through school, making some money, and having an adventure too. Very unlikely she would keep stripping for very long.
The ones I really like, I mean like the at a personal level because they are such a trip, are the ones who are ideologically committed to sex, and they do everything, because they want to, not because they have to. They started stripping as soon as they were 18, because they wanted to do all manner of sex acts. But these are a rarity unless one is really exploring the stripper scene in San Francisco.
SJG
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I read about a study that says black women age at a rate 10 years slower than white women. Interesting.
SJG
Redheads are timeless.
I'm 24 and still feel super young. My peers are kids to me and so am I.
28 sounds better, someone who can be more of an equal partner. For women, a few years means a huge difference in life experience.
Enjoy. I wish it were me going out with this 28yo. And I wouldn't hold back at all with her either. Her sleep likely would get disturbed.
SJG
Origins of DSM
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JS69 was never completely there, but, yes, is losing it at an accelerating rate it seems.
SJG
In my observations folks with darker skin-tone (from olive-skinned to black) do often age much much better and often have much less wrinkles (women and men)
Also, women with darker skin tone might dance in strip clubs, because they need to earn a living. But those with lighter skin tones, far too often, do so because they have been abused by being made the family blacksheep. So as they cannot face the pain of this, they live by dissociation.
In my experience, the real screwball dancers are more often than not white. What it comes down to is just that whites are in a privileged position in this country. Whites have no protection against the mythology of upwards mobility. So it is taken out on children.
SJG
@sjg- I'm happy for her, it's good to see a stripper doing something good in her life. I have a girlfriend, so I'm good on that front. The last text I sent her was a couple of months ago, so I'm over it now.
SJG
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Some women who take care of themselves (don't smoke, work out, eat super healthy, avoid the sun and wrinkles) look pretty freaking great, even in their 40's. I've seen some moms who look better than their daughters, because the moms are really fit and the daughters have been sitting on the couch getting fat.
Another danced naked at a Juice Bar in Columbus, back in the days when if the dancers were naked there were no lap dances. She got her master's degree in psychology, and now is a professional anti-environmental lobbyist.
One is now a dental hygienist, who is likely giving patients hardons while she leans over them with her huge tits while cleaning her teeth.
A third currently works as a Vice President of a major financial company, and her company web page lists her as having a MBA and a Doctorate in Accounting. She was one of the hottest dancers in the club, and is still smoking hot in her 40's.
I only got one or two dances from her when she dances, since she had a very cold as ice attitude and her dances were all air. From what I heard from people who work in her division, she is a fucking bitch to work under, which means she hasn't changed much.