“Looking for free”

33 comments

• JohnSmith69

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  9 years ago

  The only rule is that you must tip if you sit at the tip rail. My own personal rule of good practice is that I tip a girl if I'm staring at her even if I'm not at the tip rail. Staring means something more than just the occasional glance. I think it's rude to not tip if you stare, but of course that can't really be enforced. Occasionally if a PL is staring at one of my favs (especially the DS) and won't tip, I mention to him that the girls don't dance for free. But only if he doesn't look he could kill me with his bare hands if he wanted to.
• Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx

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  9 years ago

  I agree with JS69. I believe it is only necessary to tip if you are sitting directly at the rail. I hate that mandatory tip walk that some clubs force their dancers to do. This is especially prevalent in almost all of the San Diego strip clubs.
• Papi_Chulo

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  9 years ago

  Yes – agreed about the tip-rail – some newbies may be unaware but if one is sitting stage-side it is w/ the purpose of looking or getting a better look; thus you should tip. The tip-parade shit in Miami is sometimes out of control in certain clubs – dancers will interrupt you for a tip even if you are talking to another dancer and even if you are getting a floor-dance – in some clubs depending where you sit you may not have a view; or good view of the stage – still under these circumstances I've had dancers demand a tip “b/c you shouldn't be there to look for free”
• lookingforpink

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  9 years ago

  I am with Papi. I will tip if the girl suits me, puts on a good show and I find myself watching. I want to keep the talent working!! And it is about money. But if she is unattractive to me, just kind of stands around, I do not feel it necessary to tip her. As far as the tip rail, who does that???
• lookingforpink

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  9 years ago

  I am with Papi. I will tip if the girl suits me, puts on a good show and I find myself watching. I want to keep the talent working!! And it is about money. But if she is unattractive to me, just kind of stands around, I do not feel it necessary to tip her. As far as the tip rail, who does that???
• shadowcat

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  9 years ago

  So far this year I have spent less than $5 stage tipping at my favorite club but I don't sit up front either and hardly anybody tips at this club because there is a constant parade of dancers coming around to sell you high mileage table dances. I only stage tip when I want to get a particular dancers attention. In other clubs I never sit up front. I always like to have my back to a wall to prevent fuglies from sneaking up on me and I don't want to tip every dancer that gets up there. I got out smarted at the Goldrush in Atlanta. I sat at the bar with my back to the wall. Maybe a dozen dancers working and pickins were slim but I though I was safe from having to tip them. Wrong. Next thing I know they are dancing on the bar top and standing right over your drink until you tip them. They can make 3 passes during 1 song depending on how many customers are seated at the bar. I don't go there anymore.
• Dancer_

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  9 years ago

  Btw, speaking of tip-walk setup in the clubs where girls collect $ from custies around bar - as a dancer, I don't like them either. I worked at one and while it was nice to know that I will always make something off stage, some guys can be really obnoxious. From times to times, they just throw fucking dollar to you like a bone to dog. Seriously. I always threw bill back to them, cause fuck it, you might get frustrated with system like that but don't even dare to humiliate me like that. Also once I was sitting with a custie at the bar when my coworker got off stage and tried to collect tip from him. Oh, gawd. He started waving his bill in front of her and giving commands "Turn around! Show your ass! Hmmmm, I don't know...". I do think that sitting at rail and not tipping is rude. But I had custies who did it yet spent a lot later on dances, soooo. I won't care too much about zero stage tips, my pet peeves are assclowns who 1)expect me to take tip out of his mouth and get surprised when I rip it off ; 2)try to grope me on the stage for couple of bucks ; 3) wave their bucks to me.
• Dancer_

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  9 years ago

  Some strippers seriously have to chill tho. I went as a customer to a strip club and the same girls were coming up to me and my friend every 2 minutes. They didn't even bother to take off bras, lol, just lazy walking around pole and once song was over, they were coming up to us to get a tip and come back to the stage to do this over and over again, smh.
• MrDeuce

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  9 years ago

  Night Moves in Bloomington, IN is notorious for its tip walk. Almost every dancer after every stage set walks around the bar saying "Are you tipping the ladies tonight?" and I usually tip a dollar. However, on Sunday night an attractive brunette named Brooklyn came begging for a tip after I had just tipped her on stage (and asked her for a lap dance). I said "I *just* gave you a tip! Don't you remember?" and she replied "Don't you want to tip me again?" Result: no lap dances for her!
• jester214

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  9 years ago

  I concur with whats been said. Tip if you sit at the rail. Tip if you want to grab some attention. Otherwise no need to stage tip.
• chessmaster

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  9 years ago

  The tip walk must be a regional thing or a dive thing because I've only seen it once. But yeah, I'm not going to tip her if I don't find her hot no matter if I was looking or not. I probably wasn't if I don't want to tip her or if I was there wasn't anything at all better to do.
• chessmaster

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  9 years ago

  And yes if you're at the stage you should tip. I always tip at the stage even the dancers I don't like. I just usually tip them $1, maybe 2 if I thought they were ugly but I liked the show.
• IHearVoices

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  9 years ago

  I used to almost never tip stage, simply because I don't care about stage. Most clubs I go to have TVs that air sports, so I watch TV until I'm interested in dances...or just to pass time. Recently, though; I've gotten cool with the idea of stage tipping. I've probably tipped twice as much on stage since April than I have the rest of my five-year SCing career. I'll do it if no one else is tipping and I'm actually watching stage, or if I just feel like doing something different. It doesn't cost much at all: I mean, a $2 tip to 10 girls is hardly anything (it just doesn't feel right to me to tip $1). I'll never do two tip-related things, though: sit at the tip rail or go to a place with a tip walk.
• georgmicrodong

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  9 years ago

  Looks like I'm in the majority for a change. I tip at the stage if I'm sitting there. I tip at the bar if she lets me play with her boobs. I tip in the back if she blows me. I don't tip if I'm not the one initiating it. I've gotten plenty of dirty looks when declining to tip for a tip walk, but the absolute worst they can do is kick me out. And in Louisville, it is apparently illegal to *ask* for tips in the first place.
• mjx01

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  9 years ago

  recycling fromprevious post............ I've noticed more and more rocks in clubs in the past 6-12 months. I don't think customers should be expected to tip every dancer (I believe in voting with your wallet.. and to not vote for fuglies). However, if you aren't tipping any of the dancer, then the good girls also aren't making any money, and they leave. If there are 7 ups on stage and you are not tipping them at least a couple of dollars per set, something is wrong.
• Subraman

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  9 years ago

  I don't like the tipwalk, but to me, the unwritten rule at those clubs is: just tip the fucking dancers. $1 really isn't so bad. My feeling is: either play along, or go to a different club that doesn't have a tipwalk
• Papi_Chulo

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  9 years ago

  @ mjx: point well-taken – but just b/c a custy is not spending on stage does not mean he is not willing to spend or is not a good spender – and vise-versa – just b/c a custy spends a few bucks on stage does not mean he is a good spender. If a dancer notices a custy eyeing her on stage; that should be a clue that he is interested even if he does not go up to the stage to tip her for w/e reason (not his thing; does not have singles on him; does not feel like getting up and possibly losing his seat/drink; etc). Some dancers get pissed for not getting a few bucks on stage and then fail to make the bigger bucks – some will half-ass it on stage if not getting tipped and they think that is a good/right thing to do but that is counter-productive IMO b/c a custy watching her on-stage w/ poor demeanor whom may have been considering getting dances from her may subsequently pass b/c of her shitty stage-show and attitude.
• Papi_Chulo

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  9 years ago

  A tip-walk can become a real pain-in-the-ass in clubs w/ lost of dancers. Dancers wanting $$$ as much as we want sex means they'll do w/e – at least in Miami in the larger clubs w/ a tip-walk; dancers get greedy and they constantly approach custies for a tip even if they did not just get off stage from their stage set – they'll go up to custies all night long asking for tips making the custies think they just got off stage – in a busy club w/ a tip-walk; you can easily get approached 5 different times during just one song by a girl wanting a tip – and this is all fucking night long – it gets to the point one can't just sit back and relax and all they are dong all night long is reaching into their pocket to give tips as if one was Santa Klaus. I even think that for many dancers in these types of clubs; this is their main and preferred way of making their $$$ - rather than have to go up to custies and convince them for a $25 dance and have the PL grope them all over – they seem to prefer to walk the club all night long asking for tips and often times just doing as little as just asking you for a tip while they stand a foot away from you or just holding out the side of their g-string and not saying anything and just expecting you to tip them w/o them doing anything – and many will give you a look of disgust if you do not tip on demand. Fuck that shit – dancers are there to accommodate me – not the other way around.
• chessmaster

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  9 years ago

  Yeah the tip walk thing is wack.
• TheeOSU

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  9 years ago

  Thankfully I don't recall being in a club with a tip walk but I agree that if you sit at the stage you tip although I've seen cheap losers sit there grinning and not tip. Guys like that should be escorted out the door. I believe Ohio law says that dancers can't ask for tips, drinks, or dances but that doesn't stop most of them and usually the least attractive ones that I want to avoid are the ones that badger you the most.
• Papi_Chulo

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  9 years ago

  Just like some custies like/enjoy stage-tipping; there are some custies that actually like the tip-walk b/c it gives them a chance to interact w/ each dancer and maybe cop a quick feel for a minute – but I've noticed many/most of the the tip-parade tippers often don't buy dances or many of them. I don't mind tipping some dancers; but don't want to tip every single one of them and especially don't want to be tipping 5 different dancers during each song.
• Papi_Chulo

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  9 years ago

  It sounds lame – but since many custies are infrequent SCers and may not be aware of SC etiquette; perhaps it would help everyone if there was a sign at the tip-rail stating that tipping is required to sit there just as there are signs posting the dance prices or there being a 2-drink minimum.
• mjx01

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  9 years ago

  "just b/c a custy is not spending on stage does not mean he is not willing to spend or is not a good spender – and vise-versa" Papi: true... but I doubt dancers see it that way. If you can't muster $1-2 for a dancer of appropriate quality for her stage set, is that dancer going to think you are interested in more? Different clubs have different M.O.'s.... so my earlier comment can never be universal to all clubs. My go-to club has about 20 dancer on Fri/Sat night. Let's say that 10 of them are fine IMO. I want to tip those 10 to not get a bad rep with them even thou I'm only going to LD/VIP with 1 or 2 of them.
• mjx01

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  9 years ago

  I dislike drink minimums.... I'd rather pay a cover and not have some waitress annoy me all night long. Of course... "buy the lady a drink" BS is worse. I think all most all of the clubs I've been to are stage tipping with no tip parade. Only tip parades I can remember are the DC clubs I've been to recently. In those clubs it was pretty clear cut who just got off stage and was due for a tip. I can see larger more hustle oriented clubs being problematic.
• rh48hr

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  9 years ago

  I'll concur with the masses. Tip if you are at the rail. I never sit at the rail and just move up and tip a dancer who I have an interest in getting lappers from. Filly Corral in Pittsburgh has a different set up in that most of the seats are at the rail. There are a couple tables behind the rail and seats at the bar and booths behind that for hanging out. So many guys just sit at the tip rail. I haven't seen too many tip walks, but what I do like is when clubs have the girls go around giving mini lappers for 45 sec to a min for a couple bucks. you get to see a girl up close and maybe decide you want to gets full dance with them.
• lopaw

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  9 years ago

  Given the choice between a mandatory tip walk or a constant "buy the lady a drink", I'll take the latter. Both hustles suck but at least with the drink hustle it's usually only one waitress, and hopefully I can tip her so that she'll leave me alone. But having every dancer demand a tip is nuts. I'm glad that the clubs in LA don't do the tip walk thing.
• former_stripper

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  9 years ago

  Glad to see that people tip at stage. As strange as it seems there are clubs where guys sit on stage and don't tip. That's rude. I danced at a club with the tip walk because it was a jukebox club and we needed dollars to put in there. Otherwise it seems odd and no, I never felt a guy has to tip every dancer.
• JamesSD

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  9 years ago

  Tip at the rail. Especially it there are other placed to sit. Here at night it's a non issue, as the rail is full enough that no dancer makes it to the bar, 3 songs later, begging for tips. There's one club here that's smaller and the dancers busk every customer during the day. But day cover is $5, no valet, no drink minimum, free soda. So tipping a buck every 5 minutes isn't that rough, and I can step outside if I really dislike a dancer.
• Ch3ll

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  9 years ago

  I posted in a little detail over in the spend something thread, but wanted to say I'm glad I now have learned there are clubs that have a tip walk. A drink minimum (non alcoholic) at a full nude was sort of a stretch for me. I hope I never come across a tip walk club. Just doesn't seem right...not all dancers who get on stage even do a decent stage dance.
• rogertex

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  9 years ago

  It is entirely appropriate not to tip. I tip dancers at the stage often. A tip with a real complement cheers up dancers. At least down here in Texas. Happy dancers bring good vibes inside the club. Wallets open. Booze flows. Lap dances, CR and partying. Everybody has a good time.
• ATACdawg

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  9 years ago

  I always tip at least $1, more usually $2, and $3 to a select few. For Pete's sake, these girls are up there getting naked for your pleasure to make money. What if you were up there dancing for them? Would you want to be tipped? Of course you would. At my rate of tipping, I spend $18-$20 per hour. That's hardly a backbreaker for me. If you're going to sit at the rail, you should tip. In LDK's initial post, he wasn't spending on anything. No drinks, no tips, no private dances. If more clubs had customers like that, there wouldn't be more clubs.
• warhawks

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  9 years ago

  By me, I've never seen this "tip walk" ever. If you are sitting next to the stage, then I can see where it's expected that you tip the girls dancing. If I'm sitting in a booth far away from the stage or at the bar (usually the case) then I don't believe you have to tip as long as you are either paying for a drink or having something to eat at the club.
• JamesSD

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  9 years ago

  I had a stripper last night who approached me talked for five minutes. She wasn't my type, but was pleasant. When I shot her down for a dance, she had the gall to ask "well how about a tip?" For what? Talking? I should have asked her to tip me. But I just said "no Thanks".