Next up we got the Empire State. There's a lot here so let's try to break it down.
Buffalo- I think most clubs ain't worth a damn in this city go across the border for amazing times. The "upscale" clubs are by the airport Tiffany's and Pharoh but don't expect any mileage. The easy going hang out bar spot is Colonie's. Body shop wasn't a fan of low on talent.
Rochester- Barrell I guess it's the upscale hip hop club in town, Mirage real slow and Tally Ho, lame talent. There's Foxy's out off 90 I haven't been to that one yet.
Syracuse- Alpine closed I guess it sucked anyway. A couple dives by the mall, Bunny and Lookers didn't like them. The upscale club in the city is Paradise Found, it's like a tiki themed club. And Diamond Dolls, might be real slow but you might catch a decent looking chick in there and higher mileage possible in curtained booths. Going north of Syracuse you got the Whoosah, it's for girls that can't get hired in Syracuse.
Albany- I'd probably recommend Nite Moves and Double Vision for the area, ok priced no extras but decent two way with GND types. CandyHouse is like the basement of somebody's house it's amateur as all fuck. Looks like Dicarlo's closed. Ciro's had NO dancers when I went at like 9 on a saturday how do you explain although the prices were the cheapest dances I have ever seen floor dances $6 and vip $30 for 15 minutes. And then Shenanigans which is some wanna be high flying hip hop joint with a DJ who doesn't shut the fuck up.
Elmira- OD Marr Inn really old bar with maybe a couple awful looking dancers. And then Mchale's, small bar place, decent two way affordable, maybe find a good looking chick in there.
Binghamton- Madame Oars. Pretty nice spot actually, big club. People that run it are nice, decent talent, cheap dances, but ain't no extras, open booths.
Hudson Valley- Mansion is the upper crust club, pretty new. You'll start to see fake stuff big booty latinas here. Sunset Strip low on talent, high on mileage. Smiles didn't like the lineup. Blue Moon decent GND lineup but lower mileage. The Office and Foxes both real slow. Lace is kinda pricey but I think you can catch a gems in there bigger lineups. City Lights in Yonkers heavy latina, expensive covers depending on how late you go.
The Bronx- Diamond in the South Bronx, they remodeled it since i've been there but cheap dances out in the open. JR Cabaret high mileage possible but talent is lower end. Both spots are black/latina.
Manhattan- I still just love Manhattan it's an adventure every time. Unless you know these girls well, I would say stay the fuck outta of these crazy priced VIP's. You can really get burnt. But in a lot of these clubs, $20 one way with maybe a real hot chick is not a bad deal to me. Manhattan is still my favorite place to club in NYC because it can have really high end girls. I personally like Sapphire on 60th right under the 59th street bridge, best talent in NYC, Ricks good daytime option, Wonderland (a Joe Lido LD spot) and Rosewood Theater (good lapdance mileage) I would say. Sapphire times square is very tourist trappy, Sapphire 39 and Platinum dolls they patrol way too hard. If your gonna go VIP the prices at Vivid are a little more affordable around $400 rather than like $900 at other spots. Flashdancers midtown is the smallest club of all time and downtown a good amount eastern euros, it sounded like VIP or bust when I went I sure wasn't doing VIP. Larry Flynts I never liked the lineups, nice spot though. And Spearmint is the newest club, they looked like they were struggling to find dancers when I went, it's 6 floors most of it empty, maybe they fixed that, decent LD's in the open.
Staten Island- Only one place called Tens, it's real nice in there but lineups too small for the big ass club every time I went.
Brooklyn- Lost a few spots in recent years for ghetto bullshit mostly. Only two left now. Foxy's down in Coney Island it's pretty forgetable. Pumps in Hipster brooklyn, and it's a hipster club. Dive bar with alternative white girls which is rare in the outer burroughs.
Queens- Show palace in Long Island City is probably the most upscale spot in Queens, best talent they filmed that JLo ripoff bitch movie there. Gallaghers 2000 has been a Queens go to for a lot of dudes for a long time. Riviera heavy latina it's one of those clubs where all the girls look the same. Sugar Daddy's a lot of fake stuff, mostly latina. Starlets you'll see a lot of rappers and stuff hang there, the strippers take a back seat to the bargirls there. Atlantis same thing, it's just a place to be seen, not a strip club. Dive's nobody gives a fuck about are Mermaids, Ilda's. NYC Gentleman's Club a place for higher mileage. Vanity and Vixens are just run of the mill forgettable spots.
Long Island- Where I'm a current resident. Billy Dean's is the club near me you know what I travel a billion miles all the time for all these strip clubs, it's just weird being able to drive 10 minutes to a club a back. Anyway every time I go in there the lineup is different, decent two way. The one upscale club on Long Island is Gossip. I hear good things about VIP haven't done that but normal LD mileage is limited, great lineups though. Mirage is expensive out and open dances, latina and eastern euros. Carousel, Blush, Temptations standard tip parade spots I don't think extras but decent two way allowed. Landing strip I hear is high mileage but based on the girls, your not gonna want it. You also got the scene and lipstixx which I don't care for. And then also while not strip clubs you got the West babylon spots XDreams, Showgirls, Tunnel of Love which are ultra high mileage.
Ultimately while not the worst there's nothing that can't miss in New York in my mind. Y'all got anything about New York State?
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last commentFirst, thanks @Muddy for all your work continuing this State of Strip Clubs series.
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In a nutshell: insane VIP prices & clubs are weird about touching tits. That's fine, I'm an ass man anyway. More Eastern European and Asian dancers than other parts of the east coast. Out of all the clubs on the island, I prefer Rick's. No day shift cover. Solid $20 grinds. Hustle factor is less than Flashdancers or Hoops next door.
Brooklyn
I agree with you about Pumps in Williamsburg. Hipsters. Metal chicks. Latinas who grew up in BK. Some Asians. But it has my least favorite club layout: stage BEHIND the bar. That alone makes it not worth it to me.
New Paltz
A quick train ride 80 miles north of the city. Small college town. Blue Moon Cabaret. Mostly hot white girls in their 20s. Decent grinds and roaming hands, but nothing crazy.
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For the Hudson Valley crowd, is Foxes aka Sugar and Spice still as slow as it was or has it changed with the new name? I have been meaning to swing through there myself, but haven't found the time.
@PAWG_Patrol, is there no real mileage at Blue Moon anymore? I haven't been there in years, but I used to go to the old one near where Mansions is now, and the mileage was great.
The Office is up here, but you're spinning the wheel as to how good a time you have. I've never had mileage there, but I've heard others had so, good luck if that's what you're after.
Then you have Smiles in Poughkeepsie. It's nothing special. Okay girls. Nothing extra. Meh vibe in my opinion.
If you're looking for straight up extras in the HV just hit Sunset Strip. Really rough selection of girls, but no pretense as to what happens in the back. Honeslty I think they overcharge for the talent roster though. If you want a show, a drink and a chill time I'd say Mansions is the way to go. Just be ready to spend for some quality time, and don't expect any extras.
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@Klause It's been a while but my last time at BMC I got good grinds but just stick shifts at best.
Forgot to mention Buffalo. "Most clubs ain't worth a damn" is accurate. Pretty shitty rust belt town. Pharaoh's day shift was a snoozefest. One cute brunette with a specific intention to make me LDK saved the day though 😂
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Not seeing a lot of what I like. Different strokes for different folks.
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Are you looking for hot blonde chicks by any chance?
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NO mention of V-Jah's?
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Yeah that's right Ski I went a few months back yes very high mileage but need some help with the roster to put nicely
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And that's outside of Utica
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Rochester - Mirage is even slower than it has been, molasses on downers, but that slowness seems to have opened up the mileage.
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@Klause: Yes, indeed I am.
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PAWG- I met that brunette at Pharoah's on my two visits there 14 months apart. I didn't even remember her the second time until we got into the LD room and she started going to town.
Muddy: I was just at Landing Strip out on Long Island by MacArthur Airport Sunday night. Picked it because it was walking distance from a hotel and I wanted to get my drink on. They've got a 15 minutes for $120 deal. Both dancers I met confirmed FS was on the table. I'd just driven over from Delilah's in Manville NJ and had stopped for a couple of post-coital beers at Torpedoes, so wasn't interested in trying FS again but asked first dancer about a HJ. She said it was "included" in the price. Second one had no problem pulling my dick out either.
On the way back west the next morning, I stopped at Show World. A TUSCL review said it was similar to Carnival in NJ but not as good. I concur. Two 40-50ish Latinas in bikinis sitting on a couch in the back. (Granted, it was 11 am on a Monday morning so it likely wasn't their top talent). You make selection, strike your deal, walk back up to the front and pay the cashier $60 and he sets you up in a private room with a faux leather couch and porn playing on a screen at ceiling level (like Sunset Strip up by West Point). Not a bargain. Actually kinda sad, but at least I can say I've been there, done that.
Also a lot of old gay men wandering in and heading for the "theater". Maybe because it was the first Monday of the month and their social security hit their bank accounts.
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Good to know fellas
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Can't really add to this thread except nostalgia and hate :)
Manhattan pisses me off as much as Chicago, but at least there are lap dances. My gripe is how expensive it is and except for a few places, it's mostly meh.
It's been 7 years but I used to spend a lot of time at a client in the Rochester Buffalo area. Buffalo had more dancers, but both were really meh. However, Rochester every now and then would get a real diamond in the rough. Back then, it was worth it to stay in the area and gamble and then head over the border to Niagara. Reviews seem to indicate that those days are long gone.
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