why would you think that someone would sit around making up fake sex stories to post on the FUCKING internet to try to fool other ppl? possible? yes. likely? hell no.
I believe his stories. Don'tvyou believe all my stories?
I was kept awake last night on my drive home by the lightning flashes. someone up high must be looking out for me. the other possibility is that I have been communicating with the all powerful AI that created this artificial reality we call a universe and it has been reading my thoughts which is scary like crazy if true. anything I think of could suddenly become reality.
ok, I'm going to think of an announcement by china and a 2000 point market surge to help get the global economies moving up. The fed could announce no interest rate increase this year.
I'm with govikings. It's more than likely they are the truth or at least his version of events. Remember he is high for much of this so some details might be slightly off. But the stories are good he gets some poetic licence.
In the immortal words of founder :"Everything written on this site should be considered a work of fiction."
However, an awful lot of the fiction written here is based, at least in part, on real life experience. I like to believe that most of JS69's posts fall into that category. I may be wrong, but who cares because they are certainly entertaining.
I've never met JS69, but he and his posts strike me as credible. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt. And even if what he writes is strictly fiction, he does a damn good job at it.
John smith is a legend! Don't fuckin question him, he'll write your ATF a long ass poem and take her right off the pole never to strip again! All hail john smith!
The fact that some don't believe the stories just demonstrates that she's worth what I pay her. Before I met her, I would have wondered about these kind of stories too because this dancer seems to good to be true. But that's the idea behind a dream stripper. She's perfect for you. It's rare but I now know it can happen.
Believe what you will but I offer the following evidence. Look at my posts before the fall of last year. I didn't post much, if anything, in the way of stories about strippers except for a couple of articles about my best lap dance and my first OTC. Then all of a sudden starting in the fall of last year I start having all of these stories about this amazing dancer. Those stories flow like a river starting at that point. If I was a fiction writer, it's much less likely that the stories would just suddenly appear one day. A guy into fictional writing would have had these stories all the time.
Also, Ranukam is right. Come to a meetup if you want to judge my stories in person. I won't waist anybody's time, but I'll be glad to share more then if anybody asks. And if you come to Detroit I will show you some additional evidence. As a reminder it's Sept 12
at Penthouse.
Lastly, I wasn't high when I wrote many of the stories. Indeed, learning to smoke weed didn't even happen until a little while into our relationship. Nevertheless, I'm sure I was high sometimes cause being high makes me think of her. And sometimes I'd start the story high, fall asleep, and finish it sober. But being high is not evidence that something is either true or false. Unless of course like SJG you get your information about weed from Reefer Madness.
The meetup is in the evening (I was thinking 8 pm for me) but I'll be there Friday night and Saturday during the day for the potential of hitting other clubs. I've never been to Detroit so I want to see as much of it as I can. the strip clubs I mean.
Unfortunately I won't be able to able to make the Detroit meetup. I was looking forward to it, but not to judge JS's veracity. There is a lot of made up shit on here and everywhere, but for the most part I believe JS telling it as he sees it.
I've assumed it was fiction from the start. JS69 originally introduced his "DS" in order to top everyone in somebody else's thread about paying big bucks for a dream stripper. Said he'd seduced her several weeks earlier, but hadn't had time to post anything about it. Yeah, right.
What I've read of his stories is super cheesy fantasy with no true to life details. His "DS" is all superlatives without any interesting human traits. Everything proceeds from start to finish with no conflict, no detours or surprises. That's how fantasy unfolds, not life. Not even strip club life.
I don't begrudge some people finding it entertaining. I'm a bit entertained myself by the whole charade.
I have met JS69 twice at Follies and have been shown "The Photo" of his DS or it was at least a photo of a naked chick from the neck down. I was not impressed by his choice of dancers at Follies. He definitely likes em with big tits. Non the less he his a likable guy and he asked me my opinion about his story telling. I told him to write what ever he wants and let everyone decide whether they want to read it or not.
So it's your choice and there is always the ignore button.
@Chandler......I couldn't have said it better. Everything just goes along so perfect everytime and she is just so perfect. Nobody is perfect and as I have read many threads and comments on this site strippers are way too immature and flaky to not have any issues at all or not have any lies and excuses that I know as well as the rest of you know they lie and make things up all the time. Also he says the DS doesn't do this stuff with anybody else.....ok.....if he wants to believe he can pay her for sex AND he doesn't just do OTC with her but with others but he thinks she only has sex with him and isn't meeting other guys too. Hey.....it is VERY entertaining but I feel like mostly made up. Just because he can tell me the same stories in person that he can write on here doesn't make them any more true....lol
It's real........ to him. Only him.
After he started clogging up the board with his imaginary 420/ sex chronicles, he was promptly put on ignore. I was hoping the constant posts seeking attention would die down. Sounds like it hasn't.
Chandler, you sort of got it partially right. Miley posted the question of would we rather spend a large sum like $1-3K on -- one night with our dream stripper, or several nights of fun with more reasonably priced talent. Yes mikey first used the term dream stripper, not me. I shared my story in response to that post, but it wasn't a situation where everyone was trying to "too everyone" with stories of their latest conquest. Instead, people were just answering the hypothetical question and nobody but me shared any specific sex story. I shared my story not to prove that I'm the biggest baddest PL around, but rather as an example of why I would choose the dream stripper in answer to Mikey's question.
And yes I shared the story a few weeks after the fact. So what? I don't rush straight home to tell every club story the night it happens. And after the first night I didn't even know that this dancer would end up being special to me. I had only met her once at the time so for all I knew she wouldn't want to see me again. I was prompted to share the story because, as I said at the time, I thought it was directly responsive to Mikey's question.
And as for the lack "interesting human traits," I stuck mostly to the sex stories because I don't want to give any personal identifying information about her.
If I said that she didn't have sex with other customers that was early on when she didn't. She does now, and I know two of the guys. But she's very picky and very expensive so it doesn't happen a lot.
In any event I've sensed for a while that people are tired of my sex stories, so I was contemplating giving it a break even before this post. And I understand why a stripper with no stripper shit sounds hard to believe. It's still hard for me to believe.
In any event, I'm done with the sex stories for at least a while. But I really don't want to read about SJG's AMP girls, so I wish others would share more stories.
I agree with Shadowcat as far as keeping them coming JS69. We all can choose to read em or not.
I find it interesting that he catches shit here for his postings when 75% of the current threads are about RickDugan's system and similar far too hashed out topics. I guess everyone has their won point of interest.
“... Everything just goes along so perfect everytime and she is just so perfect. Nobody is perfect ...”
That does not disprove JS69's statements – most of us hold back from airing dirty laundry when we are talking about someone else whether it'd be a relative; GF; or a DS.
Please don't misunderstand me.....I am not telling people what they can post or not post. I just didn't know if I was the only one who questioned these stories and from the comments it sounds like I am not the only one. Keep writing all you want. @Papi.....yes that is true but most guys do throw in a few things about stripper lies or something. JS69 not only doesn't air the dirty laundry but just like above he says she has "no stripper shit" Just very hard to believe because besides the fact she is a stripper....she is also a female and that by itself causes her to do things we men don't understand
If I said she was perfect then I was being figurative, although her body comes damn close. Obviously nobody and nothing is perfect except Dougster's views on the stock market. As for SS, she really doesn't do all that crap. All my other stripoers do but she doesn't. So I call it like it is. I could explain why I think this is true about her so it would make more sense, but that would reveal too much about her background.
Nobody is telling me what I can or can't post, or if they do I don't give a shit. Nonetheless, I try to post interesting stuff and if people loose interest then I'll usually stop. The truth is I guess that I'm a little tired of writing the sex stories too. The sex itself is still awesome, but the novelty of the stories has worn off.
^I really don't get why your getting so flack. Your sex stories are no less interesting than talking about the system, or aliens, or hairless apes, or the stock market.
I believe JS69 and his tales of his exploits with strippers, and especially with his DS. Because of his testimonial on behalf of Trojan Bare Skins, I wouldn't think of doing it any other way.
JS69 is a good contributor. He starts a lot of discussions and he comments on others' discussions. I believe everything he writes. Of course, I believe everything strippers tell me too.
Who gives a shot if they're real? They're far more interesting than repeated content less bumps of old threads, endless repetition of no longer even faintly amusing jokes, and countless drones and aliases spamming the boards with breathless stories of shit taking and chicken gobbling.
"I really don't get why your getting so [much] flack. Your sex stories are no less interesting than talking about the system, or aliens, or hairless apes, or the stock market."
I think some are pissed off because they think I lie to try and create fake credibility or standing on tuscl. Aside from the absurdity of going to such lengths to create standing on an anonymous web site, such a view if it's true misses the point of my DS stories. The stories have very little to do with me. I'm just an experienced PL who happened to be in the right place at the right time and knew what to do about it. Lots of us could have been in my shoes. I just got lucky.
The key to my stories is her, not me. She's the one who is so amazing, and so unique. I share mainly to encourage others to keep looking for your own DS. My own "standing" or whatever is not the point.
My PM's with JS69 led me to fully believe his exploits. I've written quite a bit about my ATF and when I shared some of the real dirty aspects of my adventures he replied that I'd had more wild adventures than he. When you fill in the details involving police, hospitals, beatings, her parents, car crashes, your wife meeting your ATF, drug overdoses, former BF showing up HIV positive, accusations of rape, etc. credibility creeps into the picture. I've been seeing my ATF OTC for more than 6 years, I still lust over her, I've spent far more money than I should have, and there's very little I'd change if I could do it over again.
JS, your sex stories, true or not (and I'm strongly inclined to think they're true), are *much* more interesting than most of the drivel on this board, including such tired topics as RickyBoy's faggotry, hairless apes, and the dancing circuit of underground Mexicans or whatever the fuck it's called. Take a break if you must, John, but come back with more of your droolworthy stories!
I've met JS69 at Follies two or three times. He seems like a decent fellow. I've seen him hit it off well with dancers, so I don't doubt that he has good experiences with them. I don't believe that his "DS" stories are just dreamed up out of thin air.
My main comment isn't that his stories are too good to be true. Not at all. They're just far too neat and simple, and too full of wild exaggeration for me to believe. And pardon me, but the very concept of the "DS" is all about topping everyone else's garden variety ATFs. And campaigning for "DS" to be added to the glossary by repeating it ad infinitum was textbook self-aggrandizing.
I'm also instinctively skeptical of anyone who has devoted so many words from the start to insisting that his stories are true, and laying out various rationales for why it's misguided for us to doubt him. This latest one, that he's merely a humble messenger encouraging the rest of us to find what he's found, doesn't help.
Sorry, I meant to wrap the word jokes in quotation marks. "Jokes" like shorting treasuries, the whole System thing, everybody being a faggot and a host of others.
I don't take John's stories about the DS as meant to top "everyone else's garden variety ATF." It just seems more like he's letting us know every one of us PLs has his or her unicorn, whether we realize it or not, and he was just lucky enough to find his.
As for continuing to post his exploits, I say go for it! Hell, forget the posts -- he should show the hack that wrote "Fifty Shades of Grey" how to really write erotica! Mind you, I've never read "Fifty Shades," but I'm certain John's stories are a helluva lot better written and realized.
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why would you think that someone would sit around making up fake sex stories to post on the FUCKING internet to try to fool other ppl? possible? yes. likely? hell no.
I was kept awake last night on my drive home by the lightning flashes. someone up high must be looking out for me. the other possibility is that I have been communicating with the all powerful AI that created this artificial reality we call a universe and it has been reading my thoughts which is scary like crazy if true. anything I think of could suddenly become reality.
ok, I'm going to think of an announcement by china and a 2000 point market surge to help get the global economies moving up. The fed could announce no interest rate increase this year.
However, an awful lot of the fiction written here is based, at least in part, on real life experience. I like to believe that most of JS69's posts fall into that category. I may be wrong, but who cares because they are certainly entertaining.
Believe what you will but I offer the following evidence. Look at my posts before the fall of last year. I didn't post much, if anything, in the way of stories about strippers except for a couple of articles about my best lap dance and my first OTC. Then all of a sudden starting in the fall of last year I start having all of these stories about this amazing dancer. Those stories flow like a river starting at that point. If I was a fiction writer, it's much less likely that the stories would just suddenly appear one day. A guy into fictional writing would have had these stories all the time.
Also, Ranukam is right. Come to a meetup if you want to judge my stories in person. I won't waist anybody's time, but I'll be glad to share more then if anybody asks. And if you come to Detroit I will show you some additional evidence. As a reminder it's Sept 12
at Penthouse.
Lastly, I wasn't high when I wrote many of the stories. Indeed, learning to smoke weed didn't even happen until a little while into our relationship. Nevertheless, I'm sure I was high sometimes cause being high makes me think of her. And sometimes I'd start the story high, fall asleep, and finish it sober. But being high is not evidence that something is either true or false. Unless of course like SJG you get your information about weed from Reefer Madness.
What I've read of his stories is super cheesy fantasy with no true to life details. His "DS" is all superlatives without any interesting human traits. Everything proceeds from start to finish with no conflict, no detours or surprises. That's how fantasy unfolds, not life. Not even strip club life.
I don't begrudge some people finding it entertaining. I'm a bit entertained myself by the whole charade.
So it's your choice and there is always the ignore button.
After he started clogging up the board with his imaginary 420/ sex chronicles, he was promptly put on ignore. I was hoping the constant posts seeking attention would die down. Sounds like it hasn't.
And yes I shared the story a few weeks after the fact. So what? I don't rush straight home to tell every club story the night it happens. And after the first night I didn't even know that this dancer would end up being special to me. I had only met her once at the time so for all I knew she wouldn't want to see me again. I was prompted to share the story because, as I said at the time, I thought it was directly responsive to Mikey's question.
And as for the lack "interesting human traits," I stuck mostly to the sex stories because I don't want to give any personal identifying information about her.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
In any event, I'm done with the sex stories for at least a while. But I really don't want to read about SJG's AMP girls, so I wish others would share more stories.
I find it interesting that he catches shit here for his postings when 75% of the current threads are about RickDugan's system and similar far too hashed out topics. I guess everyone has their won point of interest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl…
That does not disprove JS69's statements – most of us hold back from airing dirty laundry when we are talking about someone else whether it'd be a relative; GF; or a DS.
Nobody is telling me what I can or can't post, or if they do I don't give a shit. Nonetheless, I try to post interesting stuff and if people loose interest then I'll usually stop. The truth is I guess that I'm a little tired of writing the sex stories too. The sex itself is still awesome, but the novelty of the stories has worn off.
I believe him, He is being straight.
SJG
sites.google.com/site/sjgportal/home/
Doug Henwood
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUuC6Vy3Fbc
Dizzy Gillespie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be2QGrdD…
The doorman says, "sorry, we don't serve food here"
Jokes like that GMD?
I think some are pissed off because they think I lie to try and create fake credibility or standing on tuscl. Aside from the absurdity of going to such lengths to create standing on an anonymous web site, such a view if it's true misses the point of my DS stories. The stories have very little to do with me. I'm just an experienced PL who happened to be in the right place at the right time and knew what to do about it. Lots of us could have been in my shoes. I just got lucky.
The key to my stories is her, not me. She's the one who is so amazing, and so unique. I share mainly to encourage others to keep looking for your own DS. My own "standing" or whatever is not the point.
If you're ever cold, just go stand in a corner for a bit. They're usually around 90 degrees.
Did you hear about the two guys that stole a calendar? They each got 6 months.
Stevie Wonder walks into a bar....
Then a table...
Then a chair
http://youtu.be/9CdVTCDdEwI
Good night folks!
He orders a drink....
"Put it on my bill" he says
youtu.be/9CdVTCDdEwI
I thought was underground Mexican hat dancing circuit.
My main comment isn't that his stories are too good to be true. Not at all. They're just far too neat and simple, and too full of wild exaggeration for me to believe. And pardon me, but the very concept of the "DS" is all about topping everyone else's garden variety ATFs. And campaigning for "DS" to be added to the glossary by repeating it ad infinitum was textbook self-aggrandizing.
I'm also instinctively skeptical of anyone who has devoted so many words from the start to insisting that his stories are true, and laying out various rationales for why it's misguided for us to doubt him. This latest one, that he's merely a humble messenger encouraging the rest of us to find what he's found, doesn't help.
As for continuing to post his exploits, I say go for it! Hell, forget the posts -- he should show the hack that wrote "Fifty Shades of Grey" how to really write erotica! Mind you, I've never read "Fifty Shades," but I'm certain John's stories are a helluva lot better written and realized.