Eastern European Dancers

I see so many comments, and hear so much stuff in clubs, about Eastern European dancers that I thought that I'd share my observations relating to them.

What's funny is the divergence of opinions about them. On this board, you'll often them referred to as ROBs. On the pink site and in some clubs, you'll read/hear American girls refer to them as dirty girls. In my experiences, neither is the case.

As a guy who has spent a lot of time in clubs with Eastern European girls and had an ITC/OTC favorite who was Russian, I got a bit of an education. First off, many of them originally get here on tourist visas and then just don't return when the visas expire. That means that, at least for a period of time, many of these girls are dancing without papers. That is why they seem to be concentrated at certain clubs, since not all clubs will take girls who cannot work legally in the States. In the ones that do, there is often an agency arrangement in between the girls and the club, with the "agency" responsible for dealing with the paperwork.

Contrary to the purported nonsense about Russian mafia, these agencies, at least in NY metro, are usually run by former dancers who know the club owners and are in the U.S. legally. The Eastern European girls learn about who to contact to work in which clubs through friends and family already here. So another myth put to rest is the notion that these girls are trafficked in any way. They come to the U.S. of their own accord and voluntarily decide to work in a strip club of their choosing. They also move around from club to club at their discretion. Some of the girls that I've met start out by doing things like cleaning houses, but quickly got sick of it and decided to strip instead.

In the NY metro area (including certain CT and N. NJ clubs), the vast majority of the Eastern European girls live in Brooklyn and travel together to the clubs in shared vans. This is mostly a matter of convenience, since many of these girls do not have cars. The cost of the ride is also included in the nightly fee that they pay to the agency, so it is a no brainer.

These girls take their jobs seriously. Not only do they have to cover the house fees and tip-outs, but also the agency fees, so they tend to have a big nut to cover each night. Many of them also need to send money home to help family members. Net-net, they are in those clubs to earn and many of them know how to part men from their money. The fact that most of them are also often the hottest girls in their clubs doesn't hurt either. Many of them are also bright and university educated, often speaking multiple languages. However, they are also down to earth, coming from hard places.

The combination of beauty, intelligence, and savvy street smarts all add up to girls who have a lot of talents, including the ability to beguile men. They know their value and, contrary to what the American girls think, don't give up their goods cheaply or easily. They tend to be confident and playful, all the while gauging what it will take to separate the focus of their attention from his cash. They often give high contact LDs in the clubs in which they work, all the more to soften the big heads of the guys who they dance for, but you generally won't have much luck in getting anything beyond that ITC. Indeed, the girls who travel together self-police each other as none of them want that kind of reputation ITC.

With the girls that I dealt with, OTC was possible, but not cheap or easy to obtain. The group of girls that I got to know had what they called "boyfriends", which really amounted to American SD who took them on dates and gave them help with bills, etc. They usually saw these guys during the day or on nights that they were not working ITC. I started to get sucked in that direction with one Russian favorite, and had some wonderful nights out with her, but at the end of the day she simply wanted more than I was willing to commit to. But it was a fun ride while it lasted. ;)

On one final note, along with their beauty, charm and earthy attitudes, one other nice thing that I enjoy about Eastern European girls is the fact that I don't think I ever saw one stoned on anything besides alcohol. And when they did drink ITC, it was always on some customer's tab, since they were not going to waste their own money on something like that, as much as those girls like to drink - lol.

Anyway, just a few observations fwiw.