stripper drug of choice
LMN
What do you find, in your respective locales, to be the drug of choice for strippers?
I often hear cocaine, which generally surprises me. Its definitely cocaine around here - but I live on Miami Beach where cocaine is plentiful and much cheaper than anywhere else in the US (on average a decent quality 3.5 grams will run $80-$125 vs potentially upward to $250 in other areas). Even then, it's roughly a $20-$40/hour habit and im usually surprised that strippers can afford that.
Obviously confounding variables are: boyfriend is a drug dealer so drugs are free, she fucks the drug dealer for the drugs, her clients buy the drugs.
Still, id also in other parts of the area cheaper longer lasting stimulants like meth would be more popular.
Thoughts? Experiences?
Also - goes without saying almost all strippers smoke pot most of the day. I'm referring to "harder" drugs.
I often hear cocaine, which generally surprises me. Its definitely cocaine around here - but I live on Miami Beach where cocaine is plentiful and much cheaper than anywhere else in the US (on average a decent quality 3.5 grams will run $80-$125 vs potentially upward to $250 in other areas). Even then, it's roughly a $20-$40/hour habit and im usually surprised that strippers can afford that.
Obviously confounding variables are: boyfriend is a drug dealer so drugs are free, she fucks the drug dealer for the drugs, her clients buy the drugs.
Still, id also in other parts of the area cheaper longer lasting stimulants like meth would be more popular.
Thoughts? Experiences?
Also - goes without saying almost all strippers smoke pot most of the day. I'm referring to "harder" drugs.
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MJ is now legal in WA state, so doesn't count. I'm sure just about every girls smokes it, though. Probably even a good number of the customers now as well.
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I notice you are most prolific with your posting during the average "lunch break" hour.
Is it safe to assume you are an hourly wage employee in a large mail room?
It surprises me that strippers in particular use so much cocaine because of its cost. Most of them don't really make that much money and consistent cocaine use is around $20-$40/hour here or $40-$80/hour further north. One adderall 30mg IR will keep you geeked for a good 6-8 hours and increase sex drive a lot and cost about $5-$10 in street cost. 6 hours of cocaine doing half a gram every hour would cost roughly $180-$300.
Also I doubt MDMa will see decriminalization any time soon. Its already reached the social stigma of being a "hard" drug and has proven neurotoxicity issues.
Oh, I'm on the west coast. Could have figured that out if you were a paid member.
Most of them don't make that much money? Really? I disagree with that.
Not saying you're wrong, because it's all a matter of what your definition of "much money" is.
But I'd be willing to be that many strippers are making more money than most Americans who have regular jobs, ESPECIALLY in a place like Miami where you live at LMN
What do you think the average stripper makes?
Without sucking and fucking, I assume they make less than the median income. With "extras" perhaps a bit over but with little income stability and generally very poor spending habits that leads them to net zero anyway.
To answer your question, it's hard to say because of many different factors. Some strippers work 2 nights a week, some work 5. Also, location is going to obviously play a big part in it as well.
But I can tell you this, I definitely believe most are making more than the median income in America. If I'm not mistaken, the median income in America is only around 30K per year (I'm not 100 positive on this, but I think its accurate).
You're telling me most strippers aren't making more than that? They probably are. If I had to put a figure on it, I'd say most are making around 50K. Regardless, you saying they don't make that much is even more surprising considering you're in Miami- a place where I think its safe to assume strippers make A LOT
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$50k/year is NOT enough money to be able to pay for rent, car, utilities, basic living expenses and have money left over to afford cocaine.
A casual coke weekend coke habit (and trust me on this lol) runs $200-$500/weekend. That's already $800-$2,000 per month. A daily coke user will be blowing through much higher numbers.
50k/year is barely enough to live, let alone use one of the most expensive and shortest acting drugs.
Honestly, I have no idea how someone can live on less than 10k or so per month with a home, car, etc.
I was gobsmacked to see that. Granted, Toronto sweetie is an older (now 43, I think) dancer who put in at least 15 years as a stripper willing to do extras. Alcohol was the only drug that Toronto sweetie ever consumed in my presence.
I didn't give her business dreams any prospect of success and didn't give her a nickel of my money for her cockamamie scheme.
Toronto sweetie has dumped me.
I'm sure there are strippers with savings who make decent $ but they are they are not the majority.
FYI - 500k over 15 years with no interest earnings is about $600 under the max monthly premium on a 2.5mil cash value of life insurance investment. A decent savings but for someone without any dependents, no mortgage and little living expenses, setting aside $2700/month isn't exactly indicative of a large income.
Its not like these girls pay taxes on their earnings which make their true post tax earnings A LOT less.
Dude, 50K is PLENTY to fulfill all those things you listed. We're talking about ONE person living off 50K a year, not 3 or 4 people living off 50K a year.
LMN, I actually like your posts. They're kinda interesting. But some of the things you say are way off base. ----example below
"50k IS barely enough to live" LOL, WHAT?
Dude, MOST people in this country (regardless of whatever type of education they have) aren't making salaries that are 70,80, or 90K and above per year. The percentage of people in this country who make that kind of money is low.
$1000/night was certainly possible for a girl who was doing extras when very few others girl were. I would doubt that is possible, on average, anymore.
One stripper I knew worked during a couple of booms - internet and subprime when the money was flowing like it was nothing. She told me that she was sure she had made over $1 million during that time (and given what her breasts were like, I believe her). Had a couple of different regulars she claimed had spent over $200k each on her. One she thought was a total loser, the other she seems to have actually liked.
At the end of it - she barely had enough to make it through school to get a work certificate for her subsequent job.
Remember the made for TV movie in the early 80's that starred Dennis Weaver as a real estate agent who got addicted to cocaine. I don't know why I remember it. I guess if stood out because he was just an average middle class Joe that succumb to the drug.
Weaver helped "Duel" and instant classic. Great career on TV.
Theres a lot of poverty in this country and a lot of deadbeats that make the national median income very low.
I guess 50k/year is enough to live off if you have no interest in ever retiring, having a savings, or doing anything fun on the weekends or driving even a remotely new car, owning a home bigger than a studio apartment, etc
And it's a sad reality that people with higher post grad degrees are taking home less than 100k annually nowadays. Its entirely because of oversaturation of degrees due to student loans. IMO, eliminate student loans and only allow scholarships and paid in full tuitions and people will go back to making a real living after earning it in school.
You're out of your league in this conversation. Grown men are discussing finances.
You do have my permission, though, to chime in with your expertise on the next thread regarding mail sorting and minimum wage.
Other than bragging about money all the time, I actually like your posts. But I can tell you're all about talking about how much money you supposedly make.
I'm done with this---feel like I've been getting trolled in this thread.
I'm not trying to troll you or brag about how much money I make (in fact I regularly state I'm a trust fund baby which isn't particularly impressive).
It would be difficult to live a fun lifestyle and retire comfortably on 50k/year. You cannot deny that.
Lets say you own a (meager) home and finance a car. With 50k/year net income chances are you didn't make a big down payment on your home and have a 30 year fixed interest mortgage to the tune of maybe 1.2k/month. Lets say you got a mid level japanese 4 door car your financing over 3 years with moderate interest to the tune of $300ish/month.
Now were already at $1.5k leaving $2.5k left for daily expenses, groceries, gas, etc. If you live very frugally let's say you spend an average of $300/week on ALL other expenses. Now were about 2.7k cost and 1.3k remaining. Obviously you need to have some free cash available for emergencies - hell, most banks charge you fees for having less than 1k in your checking! So exactly how much are you investing monthly for retirement? Five hundred bucks? Lol. Whats that going to do for your lifestyle in retirement? Barely getting by? And that's assuming you NEVER go out on the weekends, get drinks, NEVER drive a nice car, never go to strip clubs etc.
I’ve never taken drugs so IDK much about the subject - but cocaine does seem to be a 70s/80s drug – but I also would hear of it being referred to as a “party drug†so maybe it’s still in vogue w/ those that like to party?
And what a dancer makes is not necessarily a direct correlation to what drugs she will consume – drug users seem to do all kinds of shit to still get their drugs – and being a young hot chick in the party scene probably significantly raises their ability to get their drugs – many of those young hot chicks are probably well connected in certain circles.
Way too funny!
Every time I've ran out of blow and had a stripper make an emergency run for me to her dealer, the stuff i got was 75% cut shit that belongs in Liberty City.
This is a national and even international board – I would think most people will not get your “Liberty City†reference (or maybe they would?).
If J-Cube ever grows a pair and is up for the challenge, I know we'll see at least one of the three of us is backed into a corner - and I know it won't me.
Still toiling at work in the mail room for minimum wage?
When you blow through 8balls in a night with no problem, like I often do, you sometimes find yourself in a predicament where you need an immediate cocaine hookup and you'd rather not drive all the way to Coral Gables at 4am to get it. This is when a stripper can come in handy.
I understand I own space in your mind, but I am concerned that your growing obsession with me may be detracting from your mail sorting and your employment could be threatened.
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Fair enough. For those who don't understand my reference, replace "Liberty City" with "shit ghetto"
I've always had better returns with managed funds. One of my closest friends is a full time day trader and I do not envy the lifestyle it dictates.
Honestly, I just try to ignore the obvious low income idiots such as Jester and Mikey. Its pretty obvious that they work dead end hourly pay W2 jobs and save up for weeks on end to pay an ugly hooker $300 to blow them half heartedly. That is why it bothers them so much when people like you and I post. It makes them come to terms with their own failures and the cognitive dissonance yields a lashing out effect.
yes, because high net worth individuals disclose their exact net incomes on tax returns (sarcasm).
You clearly know nothing about making any real amount of money.
Yes, I get very upset by the fiction you post. It makes me want to give up my white-collar job and start mainlining like the character in your story (more sarcasm).
But hey, we're in total agreement on why someone else should manage your money. Though I do know a couple day traders who make it work vis-a-vis having a life.
You clearly know very little about anything. Stick to writing ficiton.
All it would take is about 15 minutes to do the test, jestie. Let me know when you are tired of running.
im sorry that you dont know what an actual ferrari 612 scagletti looks like. The fact that you are unable to comprehend what a real image of the logo on the back of a 612 looks like shows:
1) you've never seen a ferrari in real life before
2) you work in a mail room
You can address me directly when you earn a degree of higher education and clear six figures net annually.
I'm in my mid twenties, so probably closer to 17 than your age.
Regardless, you keep proving you don't know what a ferrari looks like. I'm actually embarrassed and ashamed for you.
Its not like my family are celebrities or something. I doubt anyone even knows who they are. They are wealthy because of a patent on something in the medical field my grandfather had. My father built his wealth to a much bigger degree.
Lets just say at age 20 you put away $5000 a year into a Roth IRA gaining 5% so this is meager and on par with todays market. You will make by age 65 about $845,000. Now if you live 15 years longer (which is longer than the national average). You would be living on $56,000 a year. Which isn't much but you won't have health insurance bills (medicare), you shouldn't have a house payment, among other expenses. So making $50,000 a year while working plus putting $5000 away a year can give you a comfortable retirement. Not lavish but comfort able.
So please anyone looking at this just try to put something away and it will show you how it will multiply.
Now if a stripper did this at age 20-35 (15 years of stripping)...she will have $113,000 into a "savings" or retirement account she can't touch until 65. Again nothing great but something to fall back on.
Chances are if one qualifies for a Roth IRA, he/she isn't going to have a good future anyway.
Regardless, my whole point was living on 50k/year is peanuts and relatively impossible if you want to have an enjoyable life.
I'd rather shoot myself in the head then work to age 65 just to live off 50k per year until I die of old age.
Here is an example for me.
House payment (i live in a brand new 3 bed 2 bath townhome) $900
Fee's for town home (maintenance) $150
Truck Payment (2013 F150 Crew Cab) $350
Food expense for a month $250
Cable, Utilties, Cell phone $500
Health Insurance $400
Auto/home insurance $150
Total $2700
That is a total of $32,400 for bill to live on. So with net after taxes that rough gives someone $17,000 in fun money. So if you take $5000 a year in money for clothes... That still leaves $12,000 for fun. Also all of my expenses estimates are rounded up to the nearest $50 mark... Like my expenses for townhome fees is really $120. Also insurances for town home and auto are like $120 a month as well. So lets just say I am over by about $200 on my monthly estimates as a "slush fund" type thing for emergency.
Now out of the $12,000 lets invest $2000 of that into an Roth IRA...since I mentioned that above. again using age 20-65 you will have roughly $325,000 sitting in a fund for you along with a "slush fund" of $100,000 if you didn't have to dip too much into it. Then using my example of my expenses have a town home paid off so with depreciation and values... roughly $60,000 in a townhome that is 45 years old. So a total retirement if you liquidated home, IRA, Savings of about $500,000. So then you live to be 80 which is the national average now. You will have $33,000 to live off of. Now you will say that is nothing... but now your lifestyle will still be the same. You won't have health insurance to pay for so that $4800 will be saved. No fees for townhome so that is another $1800 you will save. So you will be living about the exact same lifestyle you are now. If you are happy with that.
Now I know you will say inflation and other bullshit. Which is true yet ...but the rates could climb to 7% or higher on your IRA too. Also think if after you pay off a car you will have a year or two possible with no auto loan. Also insurance rates drop on older auto's. So again those things can combat inflation with my example.
So again come back to reality and realize that $50,000 you can live on.
LOL, so you mean to say you actually believe the BS?
"Clowns to the left of me,
Jokers to the right,"
The girls that do "extra" may make up to a $100K/month, provided she is beautiful and sexy. You, however, can not see what they do with their money. Their lives always appear to revolve from one crises to another---car notes, rent, child care, the list goes on.
An Extras would have to suck a lot of cock to make 100K a month.
"The girls that do "extra" may make up to $100k/month, provided she is beautiful and sexy."
You are absolutely delusional if you think a stripper is pulling in 7 figures annually by sucking dicks.
Back to the original topic of this thread, I think the "drug of choice" of most strippers is "whatever they can get." I know one that got popped for coke possession so shes getting drug tested regularly and is desperately taking every possible drug they dont test for. She is chugging bottles of cough syrup before work, etc.