I know for sure that 3 dancers at my favorite club also advertise as escorts. Their escort prices are $200/hr. They will also do FS ITC $150 or less. I wonder if they continue dancing because they are not making enough money escorting or wether escorts are turning to stripping to suppliment their income?
That's interesting Shadow. I've never delved into the escort world but I'm curious to hear what others have to say. I myself haven't come across any strippers who say they also escort.
It would be an expensive proposition for girls in my stomping grounds. They would require two licences from civic authorities. The fee in Calgary for massage parlor/escort girls was in the region of $700 last year (don't know this year's rate). Licence to strip is a different matter but I don't know the fee in Alberta. There will also be agency booking fees for strippers and, possibly for escorts as well (if they choose to work through an agency rather than independently).
The advantage for girls to be licenced is that there are no problems with LE harassment. In fact, LE takes reports of 'bad dates' from escorts very seriously and doggedly pursues the creeps.
I think it is definately more strippers turning to escorting. This is probably a result of more and more extras becoming available in the clubs. Once the dancers are giving BJ and FS in the club, the step up to escorting is effortless.
I know of seven former Seattle dancers that are now escorting or have experimented with escorting since leaving their jobs as strippers. One did try it simulaneously, but got fired from her dancing job because the club where she worked found her phone number on an escort web site. (She wasn't smart enough to get a separate phone for her escort work, at the time.) She danced at a Deja Vu club here. I've also heard it said that when dancers seek employment at any of the Washington state Deja Vu clubs, that as part of their background check, if their phone numbers are found on any escort web sites, they can't get hired at the Vu clubs.
I think it's more likely that strippers would turn to escorting. An average earning escort would normaly earn a lot more than a dancer giving just dances. I have limited knowledge of the escort scene over there but from what I do know not many escorts I see advertising would make it into a good club, the overall standard of escorts I see advertising over there is very poor to say the least.
There are dancers that won't 'cross the line' but I think that more that have considered doing so in recent years have actually done it.
I have never really thought to ask any dancers I know, but I do know one who did both for a time. But she wasn't cut out for the escort business. I don't know which way it's going because I have seen plenty of dancers over the years who didn't seem any good at dancing and I have to believe some of that is that being an escort doesn't always translate to being a stripper. I'd have to believe its easier for a stripper to go into escorting than the other way around.
While I suspect it is difficult or even impossible to determine which came first, every escort I have used also strips or stripped. Just look at the photos on BP and you will notice most of the girls are posing in stipper wear, especially shoes.
In areas where extras and OTC are common I am not surprised that escorts and strippers do both roles. In areas where extras and OTC are uncommon then there is certainly less overlap
"Just look at the photos on BP and you will notice most of the girls are posing in stripper wear, especially shoes" (Otto22).
This is funny because stripper shoes get trashed so quickly from working at a club, they wouldn't be fit for photos. The pretty shoes in those phots have probably not been wrapped around a pole or banged on a stage.
I'm not disputing that some of the dancers escort, but many girls in adult businesses wear those shoes. Cam girls, bikini baristas...
In my experience there is some overlap in some areas, but it is far from what I would call commonplace. I too have seen girls from one club or another also listing on Eros or BP, but I don't really see it too often and I do often look for it.
A lot of the girls who dance also have children at home, which limits their ability to do spur of the moment sideline gigs. Also, I suspect that many dancers would never want their pictures posted on public websites, especially those with kids and other community exposures. There was one club that I used to frequent in Queens where two girls would always show up on BP about an hour after the club closed, and I have seen a few other instances over time, but I suspect that this is limited to a more enterprising subset of girls who don't mind the exposure and do not have children to care for.
However, while many dancers would never advertise on BP or Eros, as we all know, a % of them are open to earning money OTC. The funny thing, however, is that many of the girls that I have taken OTC would never consider themselves to be escorts or prostitutes - LOL. When I hear something like that, I just nod and agree wholeheartedly. ;)
Rickdugan hit that pretty accurately according to my own experiences. On occasion I'll see a stripper from my circuit of clubs advertising on backpage or eros, but not a whole lot. I like to avoid the strippers who advertise on those things because I don't want to be fuck # 12 for the nite, if i can help it.
It depends on the city. I know of only six dancers over the years who advertised as escorts on CL, BP and Eros and similar sites, in Columbus, and none of them still worked in the clubs. Two quit escorting a few months later and started working in the clubs again.
When I used to frequent Cleveland clubs I saw a lot more dancers advertise as escorts, many of whom still worked in the clubs while they worked as escorts. For a while in Dayton it seemed that at least 1/5 of the escorts advertising worked or used to work in clubs.
I have had strippers tell me they danced to attract escort clients. I have had strippers who I have had as mistresses who tell me "I would rather do this" - prostitution, mistress, escorting. My current mistress danced at a club where I am VIP, she is married (2yr to 3rd husband), and I have been fucking her four years. She stopped dancing a little over 2 yr ago. She has a profile on SeekingArrangement and it highly possible I am not her only customer. However she is very available and I once rented a $200 week room across from street where I work to fuck her for a nooner every day. She is a skilled provider yet not an assembly line whore. Nor is she fucked out and loose as a goose, she has a nice tight one and is one of the best pieces of ass I have had.
Strippers are sex workers and many play. Many eventually graduate to escorting or at least to become extras girls. They may even get married but will still continue in the escort trade. The smart ones do not let a husband or BF interfere with their escorting. Other women are jealous of strippers (they will ask "how do strippers do it" - SD site gals are providers themselves but don't want to admit it. Money is to women as sex is to men. If you want to fuck a stripper make her an offer. A stupid shit in here has put me down as a "payer." So what if I am - I get it when I want it how I want it and with young hot gals who love to cheat on their BF and husbands for money. I am 60 years old and junked the traditional dating game years ago just like college football has junked the Wishbone for the 4 WR set.
@ Otto22: Allow me to add to Chanel's comments. The spiked, high heeled shoes that strippers are known for should really be termed "adult entertainment industy" shoes. Porn models and actressess wear them, and like she said, you'll see others in related fields wear them too. So, don't get the idea that just because an escort is wearing eight-inch heels, she's a stripper or former stripper.
As I've mentioned in a couple of previous posts, a couple of timess, I've even seen "stripper shoes" being worn in common public places.
My experience has been with strippers transitioning to escorts. Many will retain both jobs as been mentioned, to identify and channel a supply of clients.
I agree with those who've observed some, but not common, overlap, especially in the stripper to escort category. I personally know of two escorts who strip, both of whom tell me they started in stripping, and still do it on occasion, and another who used to dance and moved into body-rubs. The latter still has a dancer body, though. Too bad she's in jail.
Don't laugh at the Hooters-Escort idea! A few years ago a friend of mine's 18 year old niece quit an Atlanta area Hooters because most of the girls did OTH (outside the Hooters) with guys they met there waiting tables. They were pressuring the 18 year old to "date" good customers.
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The advantage for girls to be licenced is that there are no problems with LE harassment. In fact, LE takes reports of 'bad dates' from escorts very seriously and doggedly pursues the creeps.
There are dancers that won't 'cross the line' but I think that more that have considered doing so in recent years have actually done it.
This is funny because stripper shoes get trashed so quickly from working at a club, they wouldn't be fit for photos. The pretty shoes in those phots have probably not been wrapped around a pole or banged on a stage.
I'm not disputing that some of the dancers escort, but many girls in adult businesses wear those shoes. Cam girls, bikini baristas...
A lot of the girls who dance also have children at home, which limits their ability to do spur of the moment sideline gigs. Also, I suspect that many dancers would never want their pictures posted on public websites, especially those with kids and other community exposures. There was one club that I used to frequent in Queens where two girls would always show up on BP about an hour after the club closed, and I have seen a few other instances over time, but I suspect that this is limited to a more enterprising subset of girls who don't mind the exposure and do not have children to care for.
However, while many dancers would never advertise on BP or Eros, as we all know, a % of them are open to earning money OTC. The funny thing, however, is that many of the girls that I have taken OTC would never consider themselves to be escorts or prostitutes - LOL. When I hear something like that, I just nod and agree wholeheartedly. ;)
When I used to frequent Cleveland clubs I saw a lot more dancers advertise as escorts, many of whom still worked in the clubs while they worked as escorts. For a while in Dayton it seemed that at least 1/5 of the escorts advertising worked or used to work in clubs.
Strippers are sex workers and many play. Many eventually graduate to escorting or at least to become extras girls. They may even get married but will still continue in the escort trade. The smart ones do not let a husband or BF interfere with their escorting. Other women are jealous of strippers (they will ask "how do strippers do it" - SD site gals are providers themselves but don't want to admit it. Money is to women as sex is to men. If you want to fuck a stripper make her an offer. A stupid shit in here has put me down as a "payer." So what if I am - I get it when I want it how I want it and with young hot gals who love to cheat on their BF and husbands for money. I am 60 years old and junked the traditional dating game years ago just like college football has junked the Wishbone for the 4 WR set.
As I've mentioned in a couple of previous posts, a couple of timess, I've even seen "stripper shoes" being worn in common public places.