I'm talking about when you visit a new town, or a new club to you. How do you bring up the topic? It's awkward in a place you have never been. You look around and survey the local talent. A girl sets down and you strike up a conversation. You don't want to come off as a newbie or a LEO. But you do want to find out if place you are in, you can get extras, or the girl you are talking is up for them. And if so what is the cost for what? You don't want to insult and get kicked out, but you do want to spend the least amount of $ finding out….
Recently I was on business on Beaumont. I am from Houston where the dances are $20 while 2 of 3 clubs in Beaumont I have visited the dances are $25 (way overpriced). I was bored and went to a club Wed nite near where I was staying. It was spacious inside but considered a dump. Any extras would have to be otc. It was about 10 till six and there were only about 3 gals in the place. They started the girls out dancing and the first one I tipped $5 on stage. She came to my table and after some conversation I gathered she was inexperienced at dancing, a hooker trying to recruit clients, or plain dumb. She said she had only been dancing a week, had really nice tats, average (more likely to score with them), had done "odd jobs", and had not danced before. I took a dance with her (against the back wall, sort of open booth with couch and table; no privacy) and was pissed when she would not remove all of her outfit or let me feel her tits. We went back to the table and talked awhile, then she went back to the dressing room (after it was obvious I wasn't going to take any more dances from her). I did my usual recruiting by giving her my special SC business card and asking her if she was a player (extras). She said she did not know what that meant and at that point I decided to fold my hand. I have a gal in Houston I see 2x week POP at $200 so quite frankly not desparate for another one.
My advice if in a new club, new town, tread very carefully. You could just take a the direct approach and say "Hey hon I will pay you $200 if you come to my hotel and go to bed with me." I did not even do that. Or you can ask her if she likes to play or is a player - usually they know what that means. Its tough to go with the direct approach if you don't know the girl that well or the vibes aren't good. Also you don't know what local regular may be lurking nearby to punch your lights out for "insulting" his girl. Another thing would be to ask the coctail waitress if there are extras girls. At this club the coctail waitress is hotter than most of the dancers I have seen there. Next time I am there I may test the water at that end of the pool.
So I was typing a reply and then bagged it. Glad I did. Player gave you just about the best answer you could hope for on a question like this. If you want a different spin on the situation, take the worst possible outcome you can imagine and work backwards. Somewhere along the line is an approach you can use with some level of comfort.
i live in philly. as long as i can remember, the code was "are you dating?" or "let me have your #". ofcourse if she gives you the latter you set it up & its on. i never had a dancer get mad about it, its either yes or no. if im in a new town i would prolly talk to a couple people & ask about how it goes.
Back to the original question. I typically ask a dancer to tell me about her lap dances. Depending on the answer, I may pose a few follow up questions. What are the "rules" for her lap dance? If she refers to club rules, I'll often ask if she's the kind of girl who breaks the rules? Is there anything "special" about your lap dances?
Depending on the answers to the above, I will sometimes tell the dancer that I'm looking for something "more" than just a lap dance.
I've only encountered a a couple of dancers to were offended by the proposition (or at least appeared to be offended). To which my reply is something like, have you never been propositioned before? If I didn't find you attractive, I wouldn't have asked so it's kind of like a compliment.
My biggest challenge is reassuring dancers that I'm not LEO. On occasion, I had a dancer ask me to place my driver's license on the table while she offered a special lap dance. I can understand asking to see a person's ID, especially if it is a work place photo ID. Any advice on how to reassure a dancer that you are just a customer?
I think curious george was asking about extras, ITC, and suddenly we're talking about OTC. And so to answer curious george and electronman, I find that the best way to ask a dancer for something special is to have your hand in her panties. If your bare hand is on her cooter (no vice cop would dare do that), she knows you're sincere.
Have a conversation with the dancer. "Interview" her as has been said here before. Ask her to tell you about her dances. If you suspect that she might be open to extras, ask her, "what can we do?" Simple direct approach, but only after you have a nice little conversation with her. IN doing this, let the dancer take the initiative to explain how far she will go without exactly asking for it.
And Electronman: to reassure a dancer that you're not LE:
Rather than touch her pussy, which she might not appreciate at the moment, Just take her hand and put it on your package. That assertiveness seems to reassure dancers at the beginning of a critical point in a discussison.
Curiousgeorge- Use this website, read strip club reviews which mention the availability of extras at clubs in your area. Clubs where extras are common make it 10 times easier to get them, otherwise it is trial and error if you go to a club with no info of anyone providing extras.
I generally engage in a conversation relating how things are in other clubs to test the waters. Usually by her dancing technique and her comments you can get a pretty good idea of her position. Then I just ask, they get asked all the time. It is no big deal to ask, the world does not end if she says no. It is not a complicated thing to do.
If not a plain "No," offer something like, "What do you have in mind?"
If she understands that this open-ended question is her opportunity to let you know how special it may be, you could learn what you want to know. If she clearly has "just a dance" in mind, then you will have learned she's not about extras.
I definitely agree taking a look at the club reviews before going on a trip to a new town is a good strategy. Heck they may even mention some dancers by name. A good conversation with the dancer can give some insights as related by posters above.
In my opinion, starting out by asking about extras is bound to result in a less appealing selection of providers than if you simply go with the stripper who turns you on the most. If you already knew this but don't care, then pardon me for bringing it up.
I was talking about ITC and not otc. I read the boards and review, was just curious if there was certain "code words" or ways to inquire without getting a matching set of stainless bracelets, or hit in the back of the head by a local.
Thanks gk & electronman, Ive been using an approach like yours and works...
I was looking for another 'tool' in my toolbox and thanks 'how' I will try your tip next time as well
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Recently I was on business on Beaumont. I am from Houston where the dances are $20 while 2 of 3 clubs in Beaumont I have visited the dances are $25 (way overpriced). I was bored and went to a club Wed nite near where I was staying. It was spacious inside but considered a dump. Any extras would have to be otc. It was about 10 till six and there were only about 3 gals in the place. They started the girls out dancing and the first one I tipped $5 on stage. She came to my table and after some conversation I gathered she was inexperienced at dancing, a hooker trying to recruit clients, or plain dumb. She said she had only been dancing a week, had really nice tats, average (more likely to score with them), had done "odd jobs", and had not danced before. I took a dance with her (against the back wall, sort of open booth with couch and table; no privacy) and was pissed when she would not remove all of her outfit or let me feel her tits. We went back to the table and talked awhile, then she went back to the dressing room (after it was obvious I wasn't going to take any more dances from her). I did my usual recruiting by giving her my special SC business card and asking her if she was a player (extras). She said she did not know what that meant and at that point I decided to fold my hand. I have a gal in Houston I see 2x week POP at $200 so quite frankly not desparate for another one.
My advice if in a new club, new town, tread very carefully. You could just take a the direct approach and say "Hey hon I will pay you $200 if you come to my hotel and go to bed with me." I did not even do that. Or you can ask her if she likes to play or is a player - usually they know what that means. Its tough to go with the direct approach if you don't know the girl that well or the vibes aren't good. Also you don't know what local regular may be lurking nearby to punch your lights out for "insulting" his girl. Another thing would be to ask the coctail waitress if there are extras girls. At this club the coctail waitress is hotter than most of the dancers I have seen there. Next time I am there I may test the water at that end of the pool.
My basic answer is "I don't". Go with the flow.
Depending on the answers to the above, I will sometimes tell the dancer that I'm looking for something "more" than just a lap dance.
I've only encountered a a couple of dancers to were offended by the proposition (or at least appeared to be offended). To which my reply is something like, have you never been propositioned before? If I didn't find you attractive, I wouldn't have asked so it's kind of like a compliment.
My biggest challenge is reassuring dancers that I'm not LEO. On occasion, I had a dancer ask me to place my driver's license on the table while she offered a special lap dance. I can understand asking to see a person's ID, especially if it is a work place photo ID. Any advice on how to reassure a dancer that you are just a customer?
And Electronman: to reassure a dancer that you're not LE:
Rather than touch her pussy, which she might not appreciate at the moment, Just take her hand and put it on your package. That assertiveness seems to reassure dancers at the beginning of a critical point in a discussison.
What part of the country do you live?
If not a plain "No," offer something like, "What do you have in mind?"
If she understands that this open-ended question is her opportunity to let you know how special it may be, you could learn what you want to know. If she clearly has "just a dance" in mind, then you will have learned she's not about extras.
Thanks gk & electronman, Ive been using an approach like yours and works...
I was looking for another 'tool' in my toolbox and thanks 'how' I will try your tip next time as well