Comments by theDirkDiggler (page 3)

Nurses often have very high viral loads. Doctors and respiratory therapists and technicians as well. This is why they have such a high death rate despite being younger and relatively healthy. It could take longer than the usual 7-14 days to clear the virus from the body even if you're "recovered"...

If Boris Johnson ends up on ventilator, it's pretty much game over. At that point, you have around 10-20% survival if you're suffering from Covid-19 as your immune system is already losing the battle and they're just hoping they can buy enough time, but being on a ventilator itself is damaging to the body as you have to be constantly sedated, drugged and intravaneously lined and catheterized all the while a tube is being forced down your lungs while fluid is also forced out to prevent from drowning. You can't stay on too long or you'll never be able to get off of it. Hopefully, he doesn't have to be treated beyond a CPAP machine.

If cats can indeed carry the virus and let it evolve and mutate into something even more deadly and/or infectious and then pass it on to humans somehow, that would be devastating considering how many cat owners are in this country. What will they call it then? American cat CoV-SARS-3?

That makes no sense out of China. How could asymptomatic cases dramatically "increase"? So more than 90% of cases are asymptomatic now compared to 50%? That's been the data in Vo, Italy and the Diamond Princess where they tested everybody, or almost everybody with regards to the Diamond Princess (97%+ tested) and they found about half were asymptomatic, which is very striking on the cruise ship as most of the passengers (not crew) were older. So a lot of older people with this are asymptomatic as well. Also they're trying to test everyone in Iceland (already around 8% of the country has been tested) and from random testing they're getting around 50% asymptomatic. So with China, either cases there are just increasing dramatically in general and they're just lying about it; none of this no new cases that aren't imported BS...

If they develop an accurate antibody test, that will go along way in if the dancers come back and especially customers. That is most of the customers will be ones that were already exposed to the coronavirus and recovered and hopefully immune so they can't get it again or give it to a vulnerable person. If a dancer has that status, the same for her. I just have no idea how many people will have that status. If it's only 10% of the country (which is still hundreds of thousands of deaths for the final total) then that's a huge reduction of the available pool of customers and possibly dancers. Also, if vast improvements in therapeutic treatment and care are found and developed, that may also have a positive effect...

Filipinas from the original country are definitely better than ones born and/or raised in the States. Generally very warm, positive, simple to please, hard working and still traditional in roles. Happy Filipina wife and happy life. Eastern European women are quite hot and initially quite appreciative. As soon as they get that green card though...

I don't know. The most recent information i saw with how they're treating these "gig" workers is that their state UI benefit will be half that state's average payment regardless of what they earned or report, which is more than fair considering they never paid into that system, and the difference between half the average and the full average is usually at most a couple hundred dollars, although in some states, dependents can make a bigger difference. Even if they get the full amount, the biggie is the $600. Also, a minimum income is usually required to qualify for UI benefits as well as a minimum amount of hours worked during a time period. Although with the coronavirus, these requirements might be relaxed somewhat, but not completely. A one time $40 gig in three months won't be enough to get the UI benefits plus the $600. Some strippers are in a pure cash business and completely off the "books" at both the stripper and club level. I don't think these girls can get the benefits without both the stripper and the club being on the books. That is the stripper will have to admit that they evaded some taxes, and the club also failed to file a 1099. So many clubs (and strippers) might get audited, although i'm surprised many haven't been already. So i can see a lot of strippers not getting these benefits and relying on other things like onlyfans (what a joke) or OTC or SA/SB or even switching to cams although that is usually not off the books.

@nicespice If the application for UI is the same for independent contractors as it is for employees or very similar, then the applicant has to state where they earned money the last calendar year. So even if the "1099" exists, and if it even is a requirement to get the UI benefits, and it doesn't state the time periods of when they earned money, the dancers themselves have to provide the exact times and places that they were "employed". They have to provide the "employer's" name and information as well and how much they "earned". Although right now, they're limited to only half of the average UI payment that the state gives, so it doesn't benefit them to report any more income than they have to. So the UI office will have the last employer's information and typically before UI benefits are approved, they call that employer and ask them if a worker did work there and why they are no longer working there. So if they say that they did work there for whatever time periods the dancer claimed and they don't work there anymore because they were shut down because of the coronavirus, the dancer will likely be approved. This is the initial verification process. But when this business reopens, the UI people will generally find out about it as well. I don't think this system will be quite as easy to game.

The only reason that the requirement to search for jobs is "generally" being waived is because the governments would rather have people to stay at home right now instead of "job hunting". Not to mention that very few places outside of Walmart, Amazon, grocers, fast food restaurants, deliverers of all types and those type of businesses are hiring anyway. Oh and cam sites which generally have to report their earnings to the governments where they earned money, how much they paid their "independent contractors". As soon as the economy is "reopened", whatever that entails, and the government believes it's safe enough to resume searching for work or at the very least for certain businesses to reopen, you can bet the requirement to verify their job search will be back in place. Also, if the governments are smart (big if), they'll treat dancers as "furloughed workers" instead of "independent contractors". That is, when a company or business furlough ends, they take back their workers and the workers go back to work, unless the governments believe it's not safe enough to do so, in which case they'll remain closed. But if these places do reopen, then the government will assume that the "furlough" has ended and will be less likely to continue unemployment payments. Now if this shutdown drags on past May and June, it won't make much of a difference, and by the end of July, once the bigger payments ends, the girls won't be able to keep paying their bills and will have to work anyway somewhere, unless another massive bailout takes place...

You've never seen your CF nude?

It won't matter if the girls don't want to come back in late May or June because generally unemployment stops if your job is available again and you are able and available to work. Again any state or federal bean counter will recognize this and you have to certify that you have been seeking and searching for available work if your previous job/employer is not hiring. You can't just say you don't want to work there anymore, because that is the very job you were "laid off" from because of the coronavirus, and now they are taking workers back. Also since clubs don't have to pay dancers to work, they're always hiring and have available "jobs." Also the federal supplements end on July 31, which is 4 months after the stimulus was signed into law. But the supplements can end any time before that and will end at the same time the unemployment benefits end as they are tied together; that is you can't get the $600 without the unemployment insurance payment, although you will still be able to get unemployment insurance benefits after July 31, because the feds extended those benefits an extra 13 weeks. Again, the clubs shouldn't be understaffed in dancers, assuming the clubs didn't go under from spending money in rent and other fixed costs, because the dancers will stop receiving checks as soon as the clubs are allowed to reopen (which may be before or after July 31) and have numerous openings. Regardless, after July 31, EVERYBODY unemployed, not just dancers, is going to see a severe drop in income so they'll have much more motivation to work if they are allowed to do so, also assuming an exit strategy for the lock down has already well been established if not already implemented by then.

Here's a website with a map and a calculator tool to see what your weekly benefit is: https://fileunemployment.org/unemployment-benefits-by-state This site just gives a quicker table with the states and maximum weekly benefits: https://www.savingtoinvest.com/maximum-weekly-unemployment-benefits-by-state/ Florida is one of the worst in the country with a $275 maximum for only 12 weeks, although the Feds are increasing this by 13 weeks. Also you only need to make/report around $600 a week to get the max ($275). You could make $10,000 a week and lose your job and still you would only get $275 (+$600) until the end of July, and then you would get $275 for another 9 weeks. That's Florida though. Some states give a lot more, Almost none give less. The average and median maximum are both less than $500 though. Also after a little bit of research, gig workers, etc. are only eligible to make HALF of the AVERAGE UI benefit from their state. So less than $135 in the case of Florida as the average benefit is definitely not the maximum $275. Also, i think only people that filed taxes can get the benefits. How else can they prove income? Or else they'll have to file this year, so if strippers report anywhere near what they made, they'll owe quite a bit in taxes. Or they'll have to wait months for paper checks/cards, after waiting weeks or more to get in the system. Regardless, they're not going to make all that much for all that long. Still $10k for not working should give them some help...

I don't get either of them. Cam sites are constantly ripped, even private shows. It might be someone else's private show, so not as personally tailored to you, but still free. As for Onlyfans, that's the biggest joke i've ever seen. That doesn't even have the interaction of cams, but most Onlyfans sites i have seen have something like 2-4 videos and and a handful of pictures for usually $20 a month. Bwa, ha ha ha. Talk about the laziest way to be a low key porn star. Even the "free" sections of all "paid" porn sites have way more than that and that's not even counting Pornhub, XVideos, Xhamster, and all the other free ones.

Also, Florida only has a MAXIMUM weekly benefit of $275 BEFORE taxes, which is peanuts, but Florida doesn't tax much for anything so that's what people are going to get if that. And Florida is already running into funding problems. Not everyone gets the max and i don't how they decide the amount from free lancers, gig workers and independent contractors. So that Florida stripper sounds kind of air headed...

As soon as strip clubs reopen or July 31, whichever comes first, those benefits will end as strippers are basically "free" workers, even a source of income for clubs, so clubs will have no problem keeping them on "payroll". If they refuse to work and are legally able to, they lose benefits. I'm sure the states will be on top of it, if they have anywhere near competent bean counters...

Slowly and arithmethically, rather than exponentially? Let's see... 14 days ago, Florida had 432 cases and 9 deaths reportedly. Now they have 7,773 reported cases and 101 deaths. That was yesterday's data. Less than 24 hours later, the number of cases are expected to go up over 1,000 and the deaths over 40. Increases of over 15% and 40% respectively in less than 24 hours. How's that arithmetic working out?

Unemployment is inevitable. Who's going to "buy stuff " (besides online and groceries) and get services (besides remote or online) done in a time like this? Should i reacquaint you with Maslow's hierarchy? No one cares about the numerous superfluous (non essential) products and services that make the bulk of GDP when their health is on the line. Even if you lift all bans and restrictions, "business" is going to halt. Take strip clubs for instance. If someone like me wouldn't go, do you really think any "regular" PLs are going? How many strippers are going to keep working? Even if they were willing, there are no customers. There was a strip club somewhat near me that tried to stay open after all bars and restaurants were mandated to close. They couldn't stay open even if they wanted to and had every green light. This was two weeks ago. Things have gotten much worse then and will continue to get much worse even with social distancing. How does anyone in their right mind think things could continue to run and make money at even half the usual "sales" besides "essential" (lower in Maslow's hierarchy) businesses? How are employers going to keep paying workers (even only half of them) if there is no income coming in? How much longer do you think that can go on, never mind all the sick and dying? Employers are going to have to lay off everybody eventually when the situation becomes much worse. You don't need to shut down the economy to "murder" it. Things cannot go on as usual and a full blown reopening won't improve the economic situation much. How could a half-way reopening "save" the economy? I see a lot of people criticizing the current measures, but i don't see a SINGLE different solution being offered.

Well, basically the country/world is under attack by an invisible enemy of which you can only see the effects long after the damage has been planted. So a "minimum" level of carnage (health and economic) is INEVITABLE. The quicker we DEFEAT this enemy, the less carnage will be done. Unfortunately, the quickest if done PERFECTLY is months. Plural as in at least two. But somehow, there are still people that think that by just reopening the economy and "letting" people go back to work (as if anyone would willingly go back to work in these conditions, even with severe economic needs) will resolve the crisis quicker and with less carnage.

You act like "stunning economic damage" was avoidable based on different policies or actions taken. The reality is no matter what the US does now or did in the last couple of weeks could avoid a recession or even a depression, never mind hundreds of thousands of deaths. So just get over whatever you think the US should be doing differently now as that ship has long sailed.

Well that's devastating news to strip clubs, even ones in better financial health...

I'm surprised no one mentioned these yet, but Crazy Bitch by Buckcherry and My Neck, My Back (Lick It) by Khia are definitely stripper songs...

Why are people so confident that clubs will reopen? Dine in restaurants will open before clubs do and they're going to limit the number of employees and customers for a long time. They're less likely to spread disease and mostly older people go to strip clubs. Even if strip clubs do reopen, if no one shows up, they're going out of business and less likely to get bailed out. Even if all the worse case scenarios of deaths and economic depression aren't true, i'm really sad about this development... Oh yeah, the vaccine (best case scenario of 18 months from now) is a pipe dream. Realistically years away, and too late to make a real difference...

The single biggest health condition is hypertension, which affects more than half of Americans over 50. Yes, high blood pressure was considered a comorbidity.

Vaccines take on average 10-15 years and cost over 800 million dollars to develop them. If everything went perfectly (and they won't), a vaccine will be about 18 months away. And then you have the logistic challenge of creating 330 million doses and administering all of them. Think about how hard it is to produce Covid-19 tests, which are much simpler and to take them. They can only do about 100k a day right now and that number isn't going to rise that much any time soon, unless self-testing was possible, and it would still take months (mostly to produce the tests). Realistically, you won't be able to vaccinate a large number of the population in a very short time. Most widespread vaccinations are given to individual children/adults at doctor checkups and take years to vaccinate entire populations. The older and vulnerable will be prioritized when a vaccine ever does show up.

@PaulDrake What exactly do you disagree with? By vast improvements in care and treatment, i don't mean more ventilators. Although, i don't think the figure that 90% of the ventilated die is true, especially with younger patients (which are more than 10% of the ICU patients). They almost certainly will if they aren't though. I'm talking about drug therapies and antibodies from convalescing Covid-19 patients. Also Mercedes' F1 team engineers are developing a CPAP (which already exist) which is much less invasive and dependent on around the clock maintenance and care, but provided the life supporting continuous flow of oxygen to the lungs to buy time for the immune system to defeat the virus, and are can produce them at the rate of about 1,000 a day. Peanuts maybe, but if every F1 engineering team works on this as well as all the idle manufacturers around the world, you might be able to produce enough of them to make a difference in death rates. However, it is definitely not too late to just have to accept the worst case scenarios, which are unacceptable considering that many other countries haven't given up and are doing better jobs of containing this. I don't even believe that the Dugan camp is accepting these scenarios. But i'm definitely well past the early stages of grief and have moved on to acceptance and action. Many other are still tripped up in the denial stage...