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After COVID-19 Clubbing MIleage going up or down?

goldmongerATL
The Square Above Charlie Weaver
Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:56 AM
Some thoughts. Some girls are going to be desperate for money. Many will be willing to do things they would not do previously to get the money. On my very last trip around March 1 a girl I was not attracted to was offering BBFS saying "we are all going to die anyway". Other girls will cut way back on the mileage, at least until chances/fear of virus subside. We will probably find that clubs we know have lost dancers to COVID-19. Sad but true. There will be girls that don't ever come back for many reasons. There will be girls that come back but much later, waiting to be safe. Same thoughts about the PL's. Going back first thing? Waiting? Looking for less extras than in the past? More extras (if the supply and prices improve)? Prices for services (from dances to extras) - do they go up because the girls know the guys have, um, pent- up demand? Or do prices go down at first because the girls are all desperate for money? There will be clubs that never reopen.

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  • PaulDrake
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    4 years ago
    It's funny I have seen a few posts by strippers saying "stop selling nudes for $5 because clubs are closed we should be charging more not less" And yeah I think that is pretty crazy. A ton of people are out of work. A ton of girls are desperate for money and are missing being at the club. And the group of guys who want to keep spending (like everyone on here) is going to be bargain hunting once everything opens back up.
  • mark94
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    4 years ago
    I wonder how many dancers will return and how fast. As a customer, I’m taking a health risk by getting dances from a couple women. They are having close contact with 50 or more men in a day. If the bug is still lingering in the community, there’s a good chance they’ll get it.
  • goldmongerATL
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    4 years ago
    If you think about club dynamics, one person can spread it to dozens in a day.
  • Longball300
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    4 years ago
    I don't think things will return to "normal" until a vaccine is available so the customer and the dancer can relax. That will just take time. There will always be ladies in need of cash and willing to take up the profession and it will always be lucrative. Prices will vary. The thing I worry about is that last point in the OP of clubs closing and never opening back up. Cities that would just rather have them stay that way and more areas like Myrtle Beach that were once fun club towns will be no more.
  • twentyfive
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    4 years ago
    I don’t think things will return to normal for a long while the next 6-8 months are going to be rough
  • datinman
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    4 years ago
    Readily available antibody screening will be the game changer. People with prior exposure will likely be able to return to normal activities fully. Clubs could open with Covid 19 positive dancers. (tests differentiate current vs prior exposures.)
  • goldmongerATL
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    4 years ago
    Liars and cheaters will make that ineffective in the clubs. Sad fact that many dancers only care about the money and not who they infect. They also don't consider their own health and safety combined with the fact that it is low risk of being serious in younger people.
  • RandomMember
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    4 years ago
    "...combined with the fact that it is low risk of being serious in younger people." ______________ I don't how reliable the reports are, but I've read several articles about lung damage in recovering Covid patients across all age groups. I broke it off with my long-term SB and I got a text yesterday from another I've known for several years who's been going to college in San Diego. I also told her that I'm not sugaring and the most important reason is to avoid bringing the disease home. Strip clubs are out for now. I might return if a reliable serology test becomes available and there's solid evidence that antibodies == immunity. I Agree with @25 that recovery won't occur anytime soon.
  • skibum609
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    4 years ago
    Why are people so fixated on the idea that there will be a magic bullet vaccine? Ther's been flu vaccines for ahges and between 12,000 and 60,000 people die annually from the flu. This is a virus. It will mutate. The vaccine won't work against the mutation.
  • Salty.Nutz
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    4 years ago
    I agree with skibum, the magic bullet of a vaccine...look up Zika Babies. Anyways i think the US strip club scene is going to turn to a 3rd world country dynamic. Theres a good review of an argentina club d'liro that explains this dynamic. all the hot baby strippers will operate like in the argentina club and the 30+ year olds will operate like Florida clubs. This isnt due to the virus but due to the econmic ramificatins of shutting down the economy.
  • Longball300
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    4 years ago
  • theDirkDiggler
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    4 years ago
    Why are people so confident that clubs will reopen? Dine in restaurants will open before clubs do and they're going to limit the number of employees and customers for a long time. They're less likely to spread disease and mostly older people go to strip clubs. Even if strip clubs do reopen, if no one shows up, they're going out of business and less likely to get bailed out. Even if all the worse case scenarios of deaths and economic depression aren't true, i'm really sad about this development... Oh yeah, the vaccine (best case scenario of 18 months from now) is a pipe dream. Realistically years away, and too late to make a real difference...
  • SteveSutton
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    4 years ago
    This is a very interesting question. In theory, mileage should go up. There are going to be payday loans that need to be paid off ... deferred rent that will be due ... credit card debt ... family debt ... it's unfortunate, but anybody who lost income and didn't have savings to tidy themselves over for 3-6 months will likely have some sort of monetary debt to pay off. But that goes for both sides! I can see both the demand side and the supply side be short of funds, so although the supply of extras should theoretically go up, the demand side may not be able to partake for the same reasons. Like anything it'll be a negotiation and the most desperate will lose. All that combined tells me likely more extras available, and at lower prices that normal or before.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    4 years ago
    I would think mileage would be about the same as pre-Corona - there will be demand on both sides for it (custies/dancers) - custies will be backed-up in their balls, dancers backed-up in their finances. I assume clubs would not be allowed to reopen till the virus in under control - thus if the virus is under control, people are gonna do what they need to do.
  • bman66
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    4 years ago
    it will be a wait and see in Michigan. The clubs in the city of Detroit were already on life-support before Corona came to town.
  • Huntsman
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    4 years ago
    My best guesses could be way off. But I’m going to guess club mileage will be down. But OTC opportunities will increase. As to pricing, I think it will be all over the place at first. Then supply and demand will come to bear and I’m guessing that the gals working will exceed the guys who have spending money and are willing to spend it on sexual fun. So I’m guessing pricing will be lower overall. Just rough guessing at this point.
  • nicespice
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    4 years ago
    —>It's funny I have seen a few posts by strippers saying "stop selling nudes for $5 because clubs are closed we should be charging more not less" If dancers are ranting angrily about it, then that means that it’s happening. Pandemic or not, economic problems or not, we can always rely on strippers looking over each other’s shoulders and getting angry at the other dumb hoes ruining it for everyone 🤷🏻‍♀️
  • nicespice
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    4 years ago
    I remember a blog from a dancer who worked in the Midwest for a long time. She started right at recession time in ‘08. As far as she was concerned, mileage increased gradually through her time dancing at her club. Like maybe ‘12-‘’14 I think doing more became more standard contact wise? I don’t think anyone will has to worry. It’s not like lap dances are going to start happening six feet away.
  • datinman
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    4 years ago
    If the down time results in a deep recession and up to 25% unemployment as I have seen reported, it might just be a boon to the clubs. As I recall, during the 2008 & 2009 recession the clubs I traveled to had way more hot girls than I've seen the past few years. Stripping looks like a good option when there is very little other work available.
  • JamesSD
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    4 years ago
    My guess is Vice will have other things to do immediately after corona dies down and mileage will be up
  • JamesSD
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    4 years ago
    Justin there may be more hot girls stripping but they may not necessarily be providing mileage. I've noticed that unless they have a friend who can tell them what's up with what they can actually do, most new girls follow the rules at first. Then they find out a girl who got caught sucking dick in the VIP got suspended for a week and they realize girls are doing more than them
  • sinclair
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    4 years ago
    I just hope the strip clubs that survive don't raise prices to try to make up for the two or three months of lost revenue. Some of the independent clubs will not survive, but the big corporate clubs with deep pockets like Rick's and Deja Vu/Hustler will. Corporate clubs being a larger percentage of the total clubs is not good. The more competition, the better. Competition forces clubs to loosen the rules to beat their competitors. It is no wonder places with many competing clubs are some of the best locations for extras: Detroit, Industry, Providence, Miami, etc.
  • TFP
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    4 years ago
    I'm not sure what's gonna happen but I'm thankful for TUSCL because I'm gonna read you guys' experiences to find out. But I do think that dance clubs/strip clubs will be the last places to open back up. And when they first open up I'll be one of wary ones, so I'll wait and let you guys test it out.
  • Cristobal
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    4 years ago
    This is an unprecedented event, a pandemic forcing the world to shut down most social and business operations. The recovery will be gradual and may change the way things are done, mongering included, much will depend on the individuales and their perception of the recovery. Public and personal safety should be the priority but I am sure plenty of individuals will forgoe it in the pursuit of pleasure.
  • wallanon
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    4 years ago
    "But I do think that dance clubs/strip clubs will be the last places to open back up." These are businesses, dude. When those doors can open, I'd put money on them being open.
  • Papi_Chulo
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    4 years ago
    I think the cruise-ship industry will be among the longest that will take to recover given the issues they've had w.r.t. health-issues even pre-Corona
  • blahblahblah23
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    4 years ago
    I'm actually also hoping a lot of the clubs survive because usually more clubs in the area drives the fees down to some extent to steal girls from other clubs.
  • gobstopper007
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    4 years ago
    I think you will see more specials offered e.g. daytime deals available at night. Clubs have to make the guys on the fence about coming back soon open up their wallets. If I can spend $350 in a club and get what used to cost me $500 I am more likely to jump back in
  • skibum609
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    4 years ago
    In case no one noticed: Two days ago the Federal Government indicated that this will die down, but they expect it to come back in the fall of 2020. They're not going to allow clubs, bars and restaurants to get back to normal...ever. No Government will after watching the response to be ordered to stay home. The only thing Orwell missed is that the people would create, out of fear, the horrible world he envisoned and that it would not be foisted upon them. This will be based upon he faceless, nameless, non-existent "experts" that fake national news like Msnbc, Cnn, and so forth keep bleating.
  • Dolfan
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    4 years ago
    "I don’t think anyone will has to worry. It’s not like lap dances are going to start happening six feet away." Pretty sure Orlando's have been 3 feet away for years. Just sayin'
  • bkkruined
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    4 years ago
    Stripper economics is a whole different reality. If it's a slow night, YOU should pay MORE, because she needs the money. I suspect when they reopen, there will be a lot of new girls. And a lot of the experienced girls will "forget" what they were really doing for the money, having been a while since they had to do lap dances. And management will probably be keen to enforce rules they were previously too lazy to bother with, and concerned about risks of enforcement making a show on the reopening. But all that will probably settle all down and be back to normal in a week, or less. The bigger problem, how many of the dancers are spending the "lock down" in front of the TV with a tub of ice cream?
  • mark94
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    4 years ago
    I wonder if legal liability issues will be a factor. If a dancer tests positive for CoVid, and a number of her clients do as well, could the customers sue the club ? It might depend on how commercial insurance policies are worded in a post-CoVid world.
  • nicespice
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    4 years ago
    How many of a dancer’s regulars are going to want to band together to compare notes? Or even publicly acknowledge going to a club often enough. If these customers are travelers, then how would they even know to blame a dancer? It could have been from anywhere.
  • nicespice
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    4 years ago
    @Dolfan 😝
  • wallanon
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    4 years ago
    "The bigger problem, how many of the dancers are spending the "lock down" in front of the TV with a tub of ice cream?" I've already been warned by a couple of faves that fitness has not been priority for them while snacking all day out of boredom.
  • JamesSD
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    4 years ago
    I know a lot of people who are using exercise as their only excuse to leave the house right now. I see tons of runners and bikers outside
  • JamesSD
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    4 years ago
    At the same time I can see some girls if they aren't dancing daily letting themselves gain weight
  • JackScott
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    4 years ago
    As someone else said, OTC is going to ramp up before the clubs go back to normal. I see OTC as being the new "normal" where you both have to put on masks and take a shower before getting down to business.
  • JamesSD
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    4 years ago
    In the short run whenever this all lifts there will also be a glut of civvy sex. I know a few girls who are unhappily quarantined alone and haven't fucked in months already who will be super thirsty.
  • BigPoppa99
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    4 years ago
    Jumping on the bandwagon, I suspect, at first, a big buyers market. Or vice versus. And then things will just go back to normal..
  • Musterd21
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    4 years ago
    Wish I were rich I could become a sugar daddy. On the other hand I have helped some people out lately.
  • Nebulay
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    4 years ago
    These girls were not worried about giving out STDs before, now we think they will be responsible about Covid-19 transmission? Yeah the game has changed for elder patrons for sure. I am 35 and careful but I know it's just a matter of time before we all are infected. Be safe and smart mongers!
  • gSteph
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    4 years ago
    Mileage for me wouldn't change cause I already get close to my maximum self imposed limit on mileage. No kissing, no OTP touching, just a good, ol' fondling lap dance. Some day Eventually I hope.
  • Player11
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    4 years ago
    It will be a long time difficult to predict. Perhaps more strippers on sugar sites,
  • Player11
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    4 years ago
    Would advise stay from the clubs during these times. If this has become an addiction may give you chance break it or possibly stay in tight budget. I don’t believe it’s worth risk right now. Don’t make bad decisions today that will make your a living hell tomorrow.
  • BigPoppa99
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    4 years ago
    ;) I don’t understand what everyone is talking about, I always get a standard air dance. LoL
  • Roadworrier
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    4 years ago
    Like everything else, SCs are going to change - or not be around. Except for the evangelical churchgoers being exempted in FL and elsewhere from social distancing in church (who will probably supercharge the upward curve on CV-19 cases but think they’ll survive due to being blessed by Jeebus), everyone over 25 is going to be exceedingly cautious with going out in public for a while. How long that while is, is anybody’s guess. Bars, restaurants and clubs will have seating limits. Chain restaurants depend on volume and many will be forced out of business. Lord knows how sporting events / concerts are going to exist without people being forced to wear facemasks. And SCs will come under scrutiny from health departments. Unless, as in Pompano Beach, they are a major contributor to the tax base, CV-19 will be an excuse for certain cities to close the industry down. As a result, I think OTC or in-call clubs, Montreal-style, may find their way into the culture (even if it is largely underground), given police and health departments are going to have their hands full with enforcing laws in traditional restaurant/bar businesses.
  • VanMan81
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    4 years ago
    You guys are tripping. pussy prices dropped after the housing market collapse. This is going to be 100x worse. We heading towards a depression worse than 1930s. I dont think men will desire sex as much bcuz we're going to catchinh hell trying to survive. . Unemployment is shooting thru the roof. Money and food will be scarce for the middle and lower classes. it will be like the DR. A lot of prostitution but even regular girls will sell for the right price. We're going to be dating for again survival soon and most women dont offer much outside of sex.
  • wallanon
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    4 years ago
    "I dont think men will desire sex as much bcuz we're going to catchinh hell trying to survive." How did the entire board let that doozy go by without a reply? I'm going to um, disagree with this, yeah.
  • wallanon
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    4 years ago
    Stick a finger where? 100 years from now they'll be studying this poem by desertscrub for its hidden subtlety.
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