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7 years ago
I tend to only have a single CF at a time, just because it suits me better. If it suited me better to have two CFs -- and that has happened a few times, but last time was a few years ago -- I'd be completely above-board and transparent, exactly as you're proposing. "hey, I love you and Porsche, and I sat with you last week, so I'm hanging out with Porsche today, have a great day" kind of thing.
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7 years ago
lg: want don't you get, the metadiscussion around definitions, or why anyone would have an ATF?
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7 years ago
-->"CF = Current Fave
ATF = All time Fave
There can be multiple CFs even at a time but I have to assume there can only be one ATF. Right ? (else the term itself is an oxymoron)"
All of that makes perfect sense. However, throughout the strip club forum universe, many (most?) PLs use ATF to mean extra-favorite CF. I do this, too. Partially, I do this to annoy my more anal-retentive brothers, who swear you can only have one ATF :) And partially, I think there's a beautiful self-awareness to how fickle and flighty we all are, ready to drop one ATF and pick up another at the drop of a hat. There's a poetic beauty to having lots of "all time" favorites :)
Anyway! To answer your question:
My CFs (girls who I like enough to set up an appointment with her, but I won't change or cancel my trip if she can't make it) last about 2-6 weeks, after which they've either been promoted to ATF, or dropped.
My ATFs (girls who I like so much, I'll go in just to see her, and might cancel my trip if she can't work) tend to last 6 months to 2 years, with a few lasting much longer than that
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7 years ago
Around here, most clubs report ALL the girl's dance income, but not tips. How do they know the dance income?
Two clubs have a system that requires the patron to buy tokens or put bills into a machine in a booth, and those tokens and machines are mappable to the girls. So they know every dollar spent for every lapdance and VIP dance
The rest of the clubs track every dance by hand via a dance counter (basically, one of the bouncers keeps track), and all customer payments are put into a little locked purse that each girl carries around. Only the club can open the purse at the end of the night, ensure payment of the tracked dances are there and give the girl her cut.
Any extra tips, the clubs don't know about, and I assume the girls don't claim on their taxes.
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7 years ago
I haven't seen any 8-months-along toothpick-that-swallowed-a-grape pregnant women. But I've seen many women who had small baby bumps, and a number who pushed things along, using clever concealing dress, etc., until they absolutely couldn't cover it any longer.
One of my ATFs got preggers many years ago, and she stayed in the club until the other strippers figured out her weight gain was a baby bump and not just weight gain (the vast majority of customers couldn't tell yet). She told me she had planned to work at least another month, but the other strippers started a whisper campaign, telling the customers that she was pregnant, and her business dried up. So at least at some high-end clubs, the girls are self-policing on this topic
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7 years ago
-->"Another time it was a complete surprise: I can't do OTC tonight, watching the kid, but can you bring me $200 so I can pay my rent tomorrow? And now the topper: Rather than negotiate a repayment/forgiveness plan now the bitch has cut off all communication. "
Yeah, I think the general rules are:
- Once you give a stripper money, it's hers, it's not a loan, it's not an advance.
- Many strippers get overwhelmed with problems and embarrassing situations easily, and handle it in passive-aggressive and/or child-like ways, like simply cutting off communication. Don't expect anything more.
So, OTC, obviously enough, the rule is to pay afterwards.
Of course, part of being a wise man is knowing when rules should be broken -- and nearly all rules in life should be broken. I've had a couple of strippers where I was happy to venmo them an advance if they requested, and knew they'd always come through; likewise, both girls sometimes accepted "venmo me whenever" type payment after the action, they knew I was good for it if I didn't have cash. Of course, even with a high level of justified trust, I never floated them more than a few hundred dollars ... or, IOW, not more than I was willing to lose
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7 years ago
-->"As a solution I had my lawyer draw up an escrow account. I put money into escrow and the money is dispersed in a timely fashion after both sides have satisfied their legal obligations."
The good news is, blockchain (plus a little IoT smarts) will soon make this an effortless, lawyerless, escrowless process that still immutably executes the payment once conditions are satisfied (or doesn't, if they are not). Hurray!
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7 years ago
This is one of those things where the girls are using your built-in politeness and fair play instincts against you, in a situation where it doesn't apply. I find that it's best to say as little as possible, and say it with a smile, but with eye contact and confidence. Most of the time, it's just "sorry, no". Sometimes, I guess in my weaker moments, I'll say, "I don't tip, but if I'm happy with dances I get more dances later.", which breaks my own rule of not saying too much or giving her anything to latch onto and argue about, but sometimes I guess my inner pussy takes hold and just blurts that out. Never had a girl argue about it, though
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7 years ago
I'm guessing evolution has shaped the most common response to seeing a pregnant woman to be: protectiveness instinct turned on, horndog instinct off. That's certainly how it is with me. But I also think there's a pretty big subset of guys for whom it's a bit of a turn-on... I wonder to what extent there's the naughtiness of it, "everyone else is worried about her, but she's sucking my dick" kind of thing. Hell, there's even guys who like lactating women, strippers have told me about those guys for years
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7 years ago
All of the above explanations are part of it. Lost her phone, broke her phone, customer who was paying for her phone stopped, didn't pay her bill, etc. Here is a fun one that I've run into a few times with strippers. Every once in a while, after they've given out their # to too many customers and to too many random guys at dance clubs, all of whom they've forgotten but who continue to text them, they simply get a new phone number when they buy a new phone. It's the funniest way to manage your contacts, but I've seen it several times.
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7 years ago
Well damn, now I have an erection, too.
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7 years ago
My nipples are hard and I'm wearing a very thin shirt.
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7 years ago
Like Cashman, I love seeing strippers in a sexy outfit. Unlike Cashman, I feel sexy schoolgirl is totally played out and it doesn't turn me on anymore, although it did years ago. But sexy almost anything else... vampire, police woman, genie, zombie, kitten, you name it, I love it
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7 years ago
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-->"I don't mind the tongue-in-cheek self-deprecating use of "PL" in place of "custie", as we use those interchangeably for fellow strip club goers."
Gamma, definitely agree md seems to be tone deaf to how we use "PL". But I don't think tuscl posters use the term "custie" (and therefore don't use custie interchangeably with PL) -- custie is an insulting term vaguely meaning "someone who I rip off, and who is dumb enough to take it", and not surprisingly, is the favorite term for customers at StripperWeb, and only used occasionally one or two guys here who perhaps don't understand the connotation. Very rare I see the term used by customers... are you seeing differently?
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7 years ago
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Liwet, I actually prefer the other term escort guys call themselves: mongers. Funny term and perfect description -- at least for escort guys. I always cringe a little bit over "hobbyist"... I just can't think of going to strip clubs or getting a rub-and-tug as my "hobby", just a weird psychological thing.
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7 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
^^^remove the apostrophe up there please
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7 years ago
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I love ATM, especially considering that it's alternative porn meaning metaphorically describes what the strippers do to PLs lol
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7 years ago
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Papi_ChuloMiami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
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