Do you prepay for OTC?
theDirkDiggler
Illinois
I know with most escorts, it is non-negotiable. They will not do anything until they have their money (donation) upfront. But with the flaky nature of OTC dates, assuming the girl even shows up, do you pay the full agreed amount before she starts? For the ones that don't how has that worked out?
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CP
As a solution I had my lawyer draw up an escrow account. I put money into escrow and the money is dispersed in a timely fashion after both sides have satisfied their legal obligations.
It's a little formal, but we'll worth the effort.
@Papi
How do you get away with not prepaying ITC? Some of the floor hosts/bouncers demand payment in full ahead of time.
I saw her about 2 months later and she apologized saying the club would not let her leave. Not sure I believed that but we made arrangements and she showed up the second time and the whole night went well until she began crying and told me her horrible life story.
Hell, even most of the few escorts I've seen have been ok with post pay.
The good news is, blockchain (plus a little IoT smarts) will soon make this an effortless, lawyerless, escrowless process that still immutably executes the payment once conditions are satisfied (or doesn't, if they are not). Hurray!
I otc with dancers - and they know I have cash - so it’s not an issue. After the first otc - they know enough to not be concerned. If a girl gets sketchy - and wigs out over cash and payment - it’s sometimes a red flag - as they are thinking about skipping out and not delivering.
Knowing what I know now, I doubt that I would do that again but never say never. :)
The clubs I go-to have a VIP room-fee that is paid to the club/staff-person, usually ranging b/w $50 and $100 - that has to be paid to the club up-front and that fee is just for the room and goes to the club (so I do pay that upfront to the club b/c I don't have a choice) - what I don't pay upfront is the payment to the dancer which is just b/w me and the dancer and has nothing to do w/ the club.
But i do see how that gives you more leverage and the girl/ROB knows she doesn't quite have the bird in her hand, NPI, yet. Although the amount your out is still leverage for her.
Yeah, I think the general rules are:
- Once you give a stripper money, it's hers, it's not a loan, it's not an advance.
- Many strippers get overwhelmed with problems and embarrassing situations easily, and handle it in passive-aggressive and/or child-like ways, like simply cutting off communication. Don't expect anything more.
So, OTC, obviously enough, the rule is to pay afterwards.
Of course, part of being a wise man is knowing when rules should be broken -- and nearly all rules in life should be broken. I've had a couple of strippers where I was happy to venmo them an advance if they requested, and knew they'd always come through; likewise, both girls sometimes accepted "venmo me whenever" type payment after the action, they knew I was good for it if I didn't have cash. Of course, even with a high level of justified trust, I never floated them more than a few hundred dollars ... or, IOW, not more than I was willing to lose
I never pre-pay OTC services and it has never been a deal breaker for the girl. Some will ask to see the money and I've had a few even ask for it to be placed in a neutral spot, but most just accept it and I've never had a girl walk.
ITC can be a little more dicey. I never pre-pay those either, though I've shown the money more often in these situations. I've also had a handful of times where I've done the 1/2 before, 1/2 after thing when it looked like a potential deal breaker and I had good vibes from the girl.
But try as we all might, nothing is without the risk of loss. My instincts are as good as anyone's when it comes to seeking out willing girls and avoiding problem ones, but when dealing with strippers nothing is 100% foolproof. I'd venture to say that anyone who does this stuff routinely with strippers has eaten the occasional room fee or hotel charge with nothing to show for it. If you cannot cope with that possibility, then you'd be better off chasing tail elsewhere.
This is especially true with ITC services, where an emotional man with a hard on can easily get sucked into throwing more good money after bad. The second a girl absolutely insists on payment upfront or starts other games, I stand up and walk out because, with a fair amount of experience to draw upon, I realize that it is only going to get worse from there. The room fee is just a soured investment at that point. But guys without that experience and/or who are too emotional about the cash already spent are often tempted to try to salvage the investment by throwing more money at her, usually with poor results at high cost. IMHO learning to walk away is both one of the hardest lessons to learn when doing this and one of the most important.
Anyway, good luck good sir as you work through all of this.
They have more to gain from the transaction, so they should be the ones taking more of the risk.
Anyone try that?
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